Email from Drift Tuners. Proof They are Scamming.

[tyndago]

This email got sent out to a lot of people...

"We now offer DOT & EPA imports for U.S. street use which also includes a U.S. title. For more information please call us at 1-866-847-1407. This includes the Toyota Supra, Nissan Skyline R33 and R34 from 1996 through 1998 and the Silvia S13, S14 and S15. We currently are updating the website to include the DOT, EPA and title within the price of our U.S. sales. Call or email us for more info. Our process no longer will include J.K. Tech, LLC. Therefore reducing the overall cost saving you money. Our process is $5,000 vs the $26,000 that J.K. Tech charges.

Jeremy BoddyGeneral Director"

Nice. $5000 with a title. Anyone that has actually ever even tried to get a title for a imported car, knows you are going to spend a lot of money. Just EPA work and compliance, and you are nearly at $5k.

I wonder what happened between them and JK. Have to follow up on this. These guys are just full of it.

I had an email the other day from someone that said they sent Drift Tuners $2000 for a deposit on a car. They had a lot of problems getting ahold of them after they sent the money. The car they wanted wasn't available, so the buyer found another, as they could not get a hold of Jeremy. I haven't heard if it had been settled, but I am sure that is how this kid is working. Just scamming one person after another.

[raremotive]

good hunt Sean!

[MUNNNJEE]

Nice Sean.

As for Drift Tuners...

[edthemanjp]

Moderators I guess our locked thread has just been answered, now if we can get a response from Drifttuners.

[tyndago]

These guys have switched forums now. On some 350 forum, and a Silvia forum. They will just go forum to forum looking for people that want that "sweet deal".

Lets shut these fools down.

Go to Google Alerts. Add them to your list of alerts. That way you get an email, when anything associated with them is searched by Google.

http://www.google.com/alerts

Remember, at some point in time, you were a kid with $5k in your pocket, and no real understanding of the laws. Don't let Drift tuners scam anyone else.

[SullivanRacing06]

damm good info, keep this up n im sure youll be saving some poor soul a bunch of money!

[noobedloser]

LMAO i got that too

[Gold Digger]

Sean, I also got that e-mail, and it made me do a "WTF?".

I really have no idea what the hell is going on.

Sean, can you e-mail me at [email protected] ?

Thanks

[tyndago]

Sean in Japan the emission standards are much higher so if importing a car with the OBDII system built in Japan, why is it an issue in the US. Only Cali can come close to the standards of Japan for emissions. So your saying that the U.S. needs to make a system better then Japan?, the country that has the highest emission standards standards?

Jeremy BoddyGeneral DirectorDRIFT Tuners Inc.

Jeremy spitting knowledge there.

There is no OBD II on Nissan Skylines.

Japanese standards are not higher than US standards.

You are clueless. Do you have any idea what an FTP test is ? Any clue ?

http://www.epa.gov/oms/imports/impflow.htm

Prior to importing a vehicle into the U.S., you will need to become familiar with the applicable EPA requirements. The Automotive Imports Facts Manual will guide you through the necessary steps for importing a vehicle. This document provides a comprehensive look at the vehicle import process. You may also wish to consult the Quick Overview of Vehicle Imports Requirements for an abbreviated discussion of many common import situations.

So how are you importing vehicles, and registering them without getting EPA approval ?

Next:

Where in the U.S law does it say that any car imported has to be at Federal Standards? It’s State to State.

Jeremy BoddyGeneral DirectorDRIFT Tuners Inc.

Where ? How about here ?

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...8.pdf

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...m#591

This part establishes procedures governing the importation of motor vehicles and motor vehicle equipment subject to the Federal motor vehicle safety, bumper, and theft prevention standards to ensure that motor vehicles and motor vehicle equipment permanently imported into the United States conform to theft prevention standards, all applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards, and bumper standards.

Thats 49CFR Part 591 which is federal law on vehicle importation. Not state to state.

This is Drift Tuners. Clueless about the difference between the US Federal government and a state titled car.

Clueless.

[tyndago]

Ok so import it as parts, then install DOT items after then it’s not an issue.

Jeremy BoddyGeneral DirectorDRIFT Tuners Inc.

Now he is onto importing cars as parts. Given up on the DOT, EPA - state to state legal cars. Is he asking me questions ? Probing me for information ? Either way, he is a fool. I told him to respect his elders.

[drifttuners]

Ok Sean so If new cars can’t be imported why is it that the old 25 year cars can be?? Well commonsense would say that the 25 year old cars are way more safe then the new ones and so much more safe in terms of emissions, right?

[drifttuners]

Can we say the American Government has an agreement with the automotive industry?

[drifttuners]

So why is it that all you have to pay 50 Billion to bail out the auto industry?? Who really controls what is imported? Did you know that Bill Gates imported A Porsche, not even he will invest in the U.S. auto market.

[drifttuners]

Also Gold Digger, even Greg has sent us customers... For all you he is the owner of NICO. Yes we have challenged the U.S. government. Also read what was posted below...

Sean, I know you’ve been having a rough time, even this past summer. Let’s talk about this for a moment. The EPA process is not that hard, the EPA is around for emissions so when you install/have installed an EPA approved motor then emissions is no longer an issue. Also you got a call from a guy recently that has an R33 that was done stamped DOT with a valid vin and a title and I guess he didn’t like the way you treated him on the phone. As for J.K. we are still good with them however we just got a new setup in the U.S. where we now are getting the DOT office to come by and inspect our cars and when they pass we get the DOT paperwork. 2 weeks and around $5,000 depending on the car and work needed.

Also you should calm down just a bit because we are going to post the documents from J.K. of the recent DOT, EPA R33 on NICO Club through Greg the owner. Once you see the documents and call everyone you know in the Government to try and prove us wrong you’re going to realize that it's the real deal. Why don’t you help promote the good guys instead of always trying to bring people down? Just because you don’t know how we run doesn’t make us a scam, been online for 3 years now and own 6 other JDM websites so if we were scamming we would have been like the other scammers and would have been long gone by now.

Sean, your Government states that these cars can be imported, simple as that, if there is consistencies in your Government then that's not the people’s fault or problem it's the lack of communication between departments. I mean there are even a lot of guys importing as parts then installing EPA approved motors and doing the DOT work, brake lines, glass, fluids, seatbelts, tires, etc... having someone from your Government come over and approving it as being DOT compliant then giving a title.

So where is that the fault of the buyer or the seller?? It’s simply the fault of the Government and hey if the Government in certain States are approving this then the Federal Government are the ones that need to go after their own in the State Government. So Sean it's simple, you waist a lot of time yelling and being loud but the fact is you shouldn’t be yelling at a guy who is just trying to make an honest living and making people happy at the same time "Living the American Dream" you should set a mission if valid, to target the ones who allow the cars in the U.S. in the first place, and that's your Government. Think about it how else are the cars coming in, we don't work at the border the Federal Government dose. I guess it just shows how secure the borders really are, I guess?? Or is it because it’s not really a big deal to the Government in the end anyways.

And to all of you reading this I have no problem giving references to people on our customers, I can’t post them here because that would violate their privacy but I do have permission from a few customers that I can hand out there phone number and email

I wish I had all the links to the good things people are saying but here is one from a customer’s friendhttp://www.supraforums.com/for...15753

Also Sean not one person has ever said that we have scammed them and if they do it’s because of your influence because I know all our customers. And yes we are very busy and sometimes it’s hard to get a hold of us so please leave a message and we will return it. A lot of the time people call at the same time we are on the phone and we don’t put customers on hold that we are currently talking too ,to answer the other line because we like to serve each customer on a first come first serve bases.
Modified by drifttuners at 10:35 PM 12/10/2008

[drifttuners]

Are you all that stupid? It states that you can import these cars so why are you making it such an issue Sean? Hmm like 911 being all stupid and thinking that it was the enemy. You ‘are’ living on the enemy’s territory people, Central banking system, the North American Union, The Amero, Mexico, U.S. and Canada as one. War?? Did you know that the banking system encourages (rockafellers. Rothschilds etc..) War because that means that the U.S. Government has to borrow more money plus interest? The Federal Reserve is not Government, its private. So when you say it has to be Federalized, oh ya so who is that?? My father was a politician his whole life and friends murdered over exposing issues. What about you’re new President elect, the guy who is in court for not producing his birth certificate, the guy most of you voted for, why because he’s black? Who is he? How about the U.S. going bankrupted? Don’t be a bunch of sheep people. You can drive what you want; you live in a great Country? screw that, I will give up my company no problem; you guys need to see that importing a car from a Country that has the highest standards in terms of emissions and safety from Japan has nothing to do with it. You’re being controlled by your own Government, what about all the Trucks, the busses, the factory’s, even all the military camps that practice combat measures. Is it really an issue to import a car from Japan?? No folks your being brain washed, lessen up, things are getting worse not better so why do you stand with your Government that is slowly taking your rights away?? I would like to talk to one U.S. Military solder on this from that would disagree that after see the **** at their stationed location that importing a car is such a major issue. People it’s a car!!! Not a plane that will fly into the towers, not a national security issue. Wow… I have never scammed anyone, never will because I look pass money and I care about life. I am here to help. Let’s take a vote right now, all that vote DRIFT Tuners to close speak up now! I will email all 700+ customers and tell them that we are scaming them because Sean said so.


Modified by drifttuners at 10:35 PM 12/10/2008

[edthemanjp]

Listen and you listen good. I'm your soldier, I retired in 2006 with 24 years and yes its important to me that innocent nieve people arent cheated. My friends have defended this great country with their lives so that people can enjoy their Auto Hobbies or any other freedom but not the freedom of riping people off. I will assist in ensuring people aren't cheated. The FED DOT will not come to your shop to pass you on an importation vehicle. 5000 USD for FED legal, you know what JK charges if they can finish thats what it will cost and you say 5000.

Your another conspiracy theory nut thinking the planes didn't fly into the twin towers. I bet you also believe that Catrina was Bushs fault like he can control the weather.

Our country has its problems but at least were not French Sean has pointed out you know nothing about importing as have a bunch of other people. Japan has higher standards, yeah right, I lived there for a total of 7 1/2 years. The time I was in Japan I was always in cars. 86-89, 2000-2004 were the years I was in Japan and all times I owned varying Skylines.

Sean has pointed out you can't even tell the difference from federal and state goverments how in the world could you provide a federally legal car if you nothing of the differences

[drifttuners]

Ya because im French. Im British bud.

[drifttuners]

Our country has its problems but at least were not French

people like you that can’t get past that don’t deserve to fight for your Country, or is that why your loosing the battle, ohh we are so great we are Americans that can’t even find Bin Laden, we spend Billions on the war and we can’t find one group of turban heads.. You have no place in the war my friend.

[noobedloser]

Are you all that stupid? It states that you can import these cars so why are you making it such an issue Sean? Hmm like 911 being all stupid and thinking that it was the enemy. You ‘are’ living on the enemy’s territory people, Central banking system, the North American Union, The Amero, Mexico, U.S. and Canada as one. War?? Did you know that the banking system encourages (rockafellers. Rothschilds etc..) War because that means that the U.S. Government has to borrow more money plus interest? The Federal Reserve is not Government, its private. So when you say it has to be Federalized, oh ya so who is that?? My father was a politician his whole life and friends murdered over exposing issues. What about you’re new President elect, the guy who is in court for not producing his birth certificate, the guy most of you voted for, why because he’s black? Who is he? How about the U.S. going bankrupted? Don’t be a bunch of sheep people. You can drive what you want; you live in a great Country? screw that, I will give up my company no problem; you guys need to see that importing a car from a Country that has the highest standards in terms of emissions and safety from Japan has nothing to do with it. You’re being controlled by your own Government, what about all the Trucks, the busses, the factory’s, even all the military camps that practice combat measures. Is it really an issue to import a car from Japan?? No folks your being brain washed, lessen up, things are getting worse not better so why do you stand with your Government that is slowly taking your rights away?? I would like to talk to one U.S. Military solder on this from that would disagree that after see the **** at their stationed location that importing a car is such a major issue. People it’s a car!!! Not a plane that will fly into the towers, not a national security issue. Wow… I have never scammed anyone, never will because I look pass money and I care about life. I am here to help. Let’s take a vote right now, all that vote DRIFT Tuners to close speak up now! I will email all 700+ customers and tell them that we are scaming them because Sean said so.

Modified by drifttuners at 10:35 PM 12/10/2008

i think your trying to brainwash me into buying your cars and i dont like it

[norman_069]

OK

Since this talk is getting way off track, I'm gonna put in my own opinion. First of all i was a Marine for 4 years so i really take offense to people trying to tell us that our country is screwed up. Yeah its not perfect but i wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Second, I don't see how your gonna come on this forum and talk trash about our country and then want us to do business with you to import cars. Last I do want to get a skyline from you and I want you to deliver it personally and when you get here I'm gonna take that car and shove it up your ***.

Just my opinion but i think Drift Tuners need to be banned from this forum, who's with me?

[edthemanjp]

Yes and thank you for your service

[edthemanjp]

Ya because im French. Im British bud.

French or British Whatever, either way youv'e never won anything (wars)and we've always had to clean up the messes your country has made around the world.

Your british living in canada not speaking french trying to sell cars to Americans telling me I don't have the right to fight for my country. I'm doing it right now. Telling other Americans what your really about, trying to cheat people out of money telling them their getting something their not and I'm standing up for them. You bet because America is great the best country in the world and everybody wants to be a part even yourself but we don't like your type.

You didn't deny your a conspiracy theory nut, take your emotional baggage and leave.

[tyndago]

OK

Since this talk is getting way off track, I'm gonna put in my own opinion. First of all i was a Marine for 4 years so i really take offense to people trying to tell us that our country is screwed up. Yeah its not perfect but i wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Second, I don't see how your gonna come on this forum and talk trash about our country and then want us to do business with you to import cars. Just my opinion but i think Drift Tuners need to be banned from this forum, who's with me?

Thanks Norman and Ed. I was born in New Zealand, but I grew up in the United States. I have been living here for 29 years now. I joined the US Navy in 1991, during the beginning of the first Gulf War. I have been to the Persian Gulf, but in 1993 before and after anything really happened. I did 6 years in the Navy, stationed on a ship out of 32nd St in San Diego.

Jeremy, don't talk trash on the US. This is my country, and I have already stood up to defend it once. I will do it again. The laws are the laws. We don't have to like them, we have to follow them. If we have an issue, we work and we get them changed. The laws being not to our, or your liking is not an excuse to not follow them.

YOU- Drift Tuners are offering EPA, DOT , Titled cars for the US. You are actually talking about supplying registered - state legal cars. A very big difference.

YOU- are lying to people. I am teaching people, showing them that you are not to be trusted.

Stay in Canada. Get out of the US.

[jdmexperts]

Did Sean not work for a company that ripped people off? Motorex? So how can he say anything at all?

[jdmexperts]

Did not Sean work for a company that ripped people off?

[themadscientist]

Are you not DT posting as someone else?

[jdmexperts]

Didi you not answer the questin? why are you always around? you work for Greg?For all of you he even said

“I'll remind everyone involved that unprofessional language on my forum is about the stupidest thing you can do. Actually, lying or posting half-truths is #1. ”

So he is not in this for your best interest...

[themadscientist]

You are not talking to Greg Jer, you are talking to me. I am always around because this is my forum to watch and you seem to be always in it trying to scam people I care about.

At the moment you are pretending to be someone else posting supportive things to yourself. This is just more proof of what I knew the moment I heard about you, you are just another scammer. You will just wind up another guy who thought he was slick and got caught with his crank in the wind.

[jdmexperts]

You are not talking to Greg Jer, you are talking to me. I am always around because this is my forum to watch and you seem to be always in it trying to scam people I care about.

At the moment you are pretending to be someone else posting supportive things to yourself. This is just more proof of what I knew the moment I heard about you, you are just another scammer. You will just wind up another guy who thought he was slick and got caught with his crank in the wind.

I am not who you think... Look at my IP. So agian, is Sean not the Guy that worked for a company that ripped people off?

[themadscientist]

Did you miss the part where I said I CAN SEE YOUR IP?Both you and well, YOU (dt) have the same IP. 24.235.167.74

How fast is CGO Cable's connection by the way?