Electric water pump...

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TogueDrifter
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Anyone experimented with electric water pumps before on the KADE? Also has anyone delt with electric fan/s?


Veriest1
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Concerning the fans- a boatload of information can be found by searching. FAL seems to be the costly but popular option if I remember correctly.

There is also a thread discussing these for SR's in the 240sx general chat. The priciples are the same.

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i know that aebs got a electric pump on a fwd sr..... but as for the ka you would have to machine the front cover of the block then find a way to route the water/coolent through the block..plus if you want to race legit..besides formula d.. this would put you in a very high class of cars to race

TogueDrifter
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Would 2 fans be too much cooling for a near stock KADE? I heard that swapping the electric fan from an altima with a KA would work also, I just don't know which year...

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eddiec
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elec water pump will free up a few ponies lost to the belt driven unit. a block off plate could be rigged/made from an old water pump. the pump could be placed inline between the upper radiator hose as a pusher, or inline with the lower hose in puller mode.

i have dual fans froma taurus. one is on a thermoswitch and the other is on a live switch under the dash. i run the extra fan when extra cooling is needed. which is not a lot.

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What and where is the thermaswitch?

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Why are people so quick to ditch their stock fan? Does it really free up that much power, or let you rev that much quicker? From looking at it, it seems to be a pretty good design to begin with. Is it a personal preference type thing, or is it really worth the hundreds of dollars people smack down for electric fans?

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I didn't have to put money into a new fan I notice my car had two fans.Elec fan and a clutch fan. All i did was take off the clutch fan and I am not sure if the elec fan was stock on the 93 240sx se hatchback or not or if some one added before I got the car but it runs fine with just the single fan and it does not over heat at all.

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That fan comes on to help get air to the AC condenser.As for not running hot, I don't know how much I'd trust the stock water temp gauge. It doesn't tend to move into the upper range until the water temps really start to get hot.

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Yeah...DO NOT trust the stock gauge.

It's more of a 3-position switch:

0-150 F, shows cold.150F to 220 F, shows "normal"+220 F, shows hot or overheating...

Any variation in between is not indicative of anything meaningful.

FYI...

- Brian

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Reasoning behind ditching the stock fans for me is to...

1)Allow easier access to belts and accessories on my 15 year old car which will undoubtably blow one up on some random highway at a rather inconvieniant time. I hate removing the fan shroud over and over again.2)Clean up the engine bay.3)Free up about... 1 maybe 2 horsepower. :P

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Veriest1 wrote:Reasoning behind ditching the stock fans for me is to...

1)Allow easier access to belts and accessories on my 15 year old car which will undoubtably blow one up on some random highway at a rather inconvieniant time. I hate removing the fan shroud over and over again.2)Clean up the engine bay.3)Free up about... 1 maybe 2 horsepower. :P
Also low engine noiseFan clutch failure Revvier enginelower gas consumption (less drag)Faster warmups if configured correctly

TogueDrifter
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How did you set up your electrical?

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personally i went to an electric fan because otherwise it took forever for my car to come up to temp in the winter and my stock unit died. now i have an electric which seems to do a better job of cooling the engine, is quieter and my car doesn't take 30min of hard driving to give me heat in the winter.


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