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rn79870 wrote:
You've brought a good argument to the forum. I'm only quoting part of your post, the part I disagree with.

Obama is perceived as black because of he chooses to align himself in that manner. He married a black woman, and is raising his family as a black family. (whatever that means). Had he, like Tiger Woods, married a white woman, things might have been different.
nah, woods is different because: "Earl, a retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel and Vietnam War veteran, was of mixed African American (50 percent), Chinese (25 percent) and Native American (25 percent) ancestry. Kultida (nee Punsawad), originally from Thailand, is of mixed Thai (50 percent), Chinese (25 percent), and Dutch (25 percent) ancestry. "

Woods is way more mixed than Obama. Obama only had a white mother and a black father.


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rn79870 wrote:You've brought a good argument to the forum. I'm only quoting part of your post, the part I disagree with.

Obama is perceived as black because of he chooses to align himself in that manner. He married a black woman, and is raising his family as a black family. (whatever that means). Had he, like Tiger Woods, married a white woman, things might have been different.
And I'll return the compliment. This is precisely what has soured me on Obama and I'm glad you brought it up. I used to really like him - was just disappointed that he's a Democrat. In addition to his great charisma and oratorical abilities, I also liked his approach. He wasn't presenting himself as a Black Man, unlike every other black politician until ... Rev Wright. I saw no problem with that sort of bombastic hyperbole. Wright has a large respectful following. There's no reason that Obama can't have people like him as good friends - politicians should have all sorts of associations. Obama, for instance, would benefit from knowing some people in small towns, so he wouldn't make idiotic "cling" comments.

But Obama didn't shrug Wright off. He seemed to be treading some fine line - several progressively different explanations. All he had to say was that Wright was talking to a private audience, using exaggerated preacherly rhetoric, and that he, Obama, did not share those views. Period. So what. But no, he decided not to dis Wright or the congregation. Loyalty to exactly what, I ask? Then I watched some of Michelle's speeches. Ugh. It's not just what she says, it's her attitude. THAT attitude.

So, Obama now appears to be a Black Man. His support is 25% black. His campaign periodically plays a race card. I don't react well when someone points out their race or ethnicity to me, as if it should matter.

So, yes, not only will people always see "Barry" as black, he's allowed his campaign to position him as a Black Man, and as you point out, his wife is most definitely a Black Woman. In that regard, they can't really claim to represent ME. And now he's stuck. Since he's lost the white blue-collar vote, he can't get elected without the huge black vote he's going to get.

And if anyone wants to claim that he's been unfairly painted this way, he shouldn't forget what Obama and his campaign have done to make things worse. It isn't like no one in his campaign ever thought Rev Wright would come up. I mean, really. This is one of the first things they should have had pat answers for. It's the fault of the campaign and the way it has responded to race issues.

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Obama keeps at it by pulling Jim Johnson on his team to vet vice presidential choices.

Jim Johnson has been a lobbyist, Executive Assistant to Vice President Walter F. Mondale, part of the Carter Administration, a former US Rep to an African PM, CEO of Fannie Mae, business partner with Clinton UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, etc. etc. etc. Jimmie is a schrewd man. He deferring $200 million of estimated expenses in 1998 to ensure management at Fannie Mae received their bonus. Currently, he is vice-chairman of PERSEUS-SOROS BIOPHARMACEUTICAL FUND, L.P (Yep, that Soros). He has also pledged between 100-200 thousand to Obamas campaign and is now "on staff" and has recently pulled in a 7-million equity line with Countrywide Financial Corp (whom Obama had jumped all over Hillary about) for himself and friends. Of course, Obama says he does not work for him......which is spin since he _is_ working for Obama, simply not getting paid for it. What does Mac say now?

John McCain's campaign statement:

“It’s preposterous for Senator Obama to claim that the leader of his VP selection committee isn’t working for him. Barack Obama has castigated Countrywide Financial, but now that Jim Johnson has been exposed for taking sweetheart deals from Countrywide’s CEO - Obama is in a state of denial. It’s that brand of weak leadership and hypocrisy that shows why Barack Obama has no record of taking courageous stands or making change in Washington.”

Interesting, Interesting....

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audtatious wrote:
“It’s preposterous for Senator Obama to claim that the leader of his VP selection committee isn’t working for him. Barack Obama has castigated Countrywide Financial, but now that Jim Johnson has been exposed for taking sweetheart deals from Countrywide’s CEO - Obama is in a state of denial. It’s that brand of weak leadership and hypocrisy that shows why Barack Obama has no record of taking courageous stands or making change in Washington.”

Interesting, Interesting....
If you ignore everything else...that alone makes a simple yet profound statement.

"hello I'm Barack Obama and I'm not to be trusted"

This is the guy we want running the entire Country? I think not...I for one have had enough lies and BS from the Gov to last me a lifetime. He hasn't even attained office and he's been caught using unscrupulous methods and shadetree handshake deals. The man represents change...but the change is a bad one.

Down with Obama...


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I'm still waiting for Mac to get nailed on something besides some of the stupid policy he is endorsing.

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96Qowner wrote:So, Obama now appears to be a Black Man. His support is 25% black. His campaign periodically plays a race card. I don't react well when someone points out their race or ethnicity to me, as if it should matter.
If that's so, 25% of a ethnicity that makes up 10% of the population amounts to what, 2.5% of the voters? That isn't enough to swing the vote I wouldn't think. What about Hillary's followers? It doesn't appear that they will be automatically voting the party line.

I wonder how his campaign would have unfolded if the managers had seen being black as detrimental to his chances? Would he have separated himself from his "roots" if that had been the case? If so, then his convenient shift from Barry to Barak might speak volumes for his intentions.

I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and let the campaign unfold before making my choice.

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No, blacks will be 25% of Obama's vote.

Blacks represent 12% of the electorate and 90% of them vote Democrat = 11%. Since the Democrat vote will be roughly half the electorate, blacks have always represented 22% of the Democratic vote. I'm assuming this year will be higher.

What disturbed me most was that 90% of blacks have supported Obama over Hillary. It's only natural, but it shows a glaring division in Democratic constituencies. 22% or more of the Democratic vote this year for President will be racially based, unlike past years when it was simply a Party division. Can Obama treat this constituency like any other or does 22% of your support get preferential treatment?

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A funny I got in an email that kind of reminded me about Obama...

Quote »A woman, married three times, walked into a bridal shop one day and told the sales clerk that she was looking for a wedding gown for her fourth wedding.

'Of course, madam,' replied the sales clerk, exactly what type and color are you looking for?'

The bride to be said: 'A long frilly white dress with a veil.'

The sales clerk hesitated a bit, then said, 'Please don't take this the wrong way, but gowns of that nature areconsidered more appropriate for brides who are being married the first time - for those who are a bit moreinnocent, if you know what I mean? Perhaps ivory or sky blue would be nice?'

'Well,' replied the customer, a little peeved at the clerk's directness, 'I can assure you that a white gownwould be quite appropriate. Believe it or not, despite all my marriages, I remain as innocent as a first-time bride. You see, my first husband was so excited about our wedding he died as we were checking into our hotel. My second husband and I got into such a terrible fight in the limo on our way to our honeymoon that we had that wedding annulled immediately and never spoke to each other again.'

'What about your third husband?' asked the sales clerk. 'That one was a Democrat,' said the woman, 'and every night for four years, he just sat on the edge of the bed and told me how good it was going to be, but nothing ever happened.'[/quote]

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LULZ

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mtcookson wrote:A funny I got in an email that kind of reminded me about Obama...
HAH...needed that one today bro.


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