EI Coil?

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twjr_85
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How do I tell the difference between the electronic ignition coil and the one meant for points? I just bought a '79 620 with an electronic ignition distributor but the coil was missing. I want to put it in my other truck which is a '74 body with a '74 wiring harness and a '78 L20 motor and I don't want to wire it up wrong and burn up the box on the side of the distributor. (my dad has done it once!) Can I wire up the EI distributor and coil with my '74 wiring harness? I've read where this question has been asked before but I thought maybe my setup is different any help wouldbe greatly appreciated.  


Pac. coast Datsun
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This is the dist. & EI coil i pulled & am now running on my 74 620...
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/ ... 6_ORIG.jpg[/IMG]
in text on the bottom it says for use w/ EI...not all may say that but mine did. Also the EI coil is taller & wider & thats another way to tell.

twjr_85
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what about wiring it up? The wires on a '79 going to the coil are BW and L (black and white & Blue). My '74  wires are black and white & black and red. Do you have any pics of your distributor and coil installed?

Pac. coast Datsun
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Just make sure that the wires go to the correct sides of the coil. Meaning whatever wire is + make sure it goes to the + on the new coil. Ive swapped over to EI using the 610 dist. & a GM HEI module so the wiring is a little diferent. Heres a writeup.....


> Wiring for the HEI unit.
>
> W - Connects to the positive lead at the distributor.
> G - Connects to the negative lead at the distributor.
> C - Connects to the negative side of the coil.
> B - Connects to the positive side of the coil.
>
>
> Okay...I'll add this to it........
>
> You will need a new wire from the RED wire on the dist to the W on the HEI
> unit.
> You will need a new wire from the GREEN wire on the dist to the G on the
> HEI unit
> These two wires are what "senses" the tiny voltage spike that will be sent
> from the pickup in the dist.
>
> You will need a new wire from the (+) of the coil to the B on the HEI
> unit. This provides the power to the HEI unit. It's electronics needs to
> get power from somewhere. You will "add" this wire to the existing wires
> on that terminal of the coil. You will have wires on there from the
> ballast resistor, the "start/crank"(full 12v) wire from the ign switch. Do
> not remove the ballast resistor unless you have a coil that is rated for a
> constant 12v. If you remove the ballast, you can simply connect the two
> wires from the resistor together. You may have only one wire at each end
> of the resistor and then you have a 2nd wire on the (+) term of the coil.
> The second wire is the "start/crank" wire from the ign switch. You should
> be able to see which wire runs from the resistor to the coil. If not, the
> black/white is from the resistor and the red is from the ign sw. If you
> simply take the resistor out without connecting to the two wires together,
> your engine will only fire when the key is in the crank position and will
> die when you quit cranking. If you remove the "start/crank" wire, you
> will still get volts to the coil through the resistor in the crank
> position(I double checked that on the '74 620 w/man trans wiring), but the
> starter pulls a lot of amps and you may not get enough power to the coil
> to get a good enough spark to start the eng.
>
> The wire from the (-) term of the coil can be the old one running to the
> dist, but I'd just run new and disconnect the old one. You may have two
> wires on that term...one will be the tach if you have one. This wire runs
> to the C on the HEI unit and turns the coil on and off like the points
> did.
>
> The HEI unit grounds itself through the metal plate on it's backside and
> the collets in the mounting screw holes. You want to make sure you mount
> the unit to a piece of aluminum with a small amount of heat sink compound
> for heat transfer. Then mount the alum bracket to a good chassis ground.
> I would try to tuck it up, more out of the way so that water and debris
> flying up don't hit it. It was designed to be inside the GM distributor.
this is the HEI i went with... http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=194&ptset=A



twjr_85
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This is how I have it hooked up but it still doesn't run. I have fire at the plugs though. 



 


twjr_85
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I have the ignition module on the side of the dist., is this what you're calling a hei unit? I only have the coil with the ballast that was running the dual point dist. I had on there.

Pac. coast Datsun
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I dont have points anymore, the HEI module replaces the ignitor box. In your case id refer to a factory wiring diagram & go from there. www.the620.com has them on the tech area.

twjr_85
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ok I have it running but it hits a flat spot about mid throttle and if I hold it there it cuts off. And it backfires alot! I mean literally there is fire coming out of the tailpipe. I'm almost ready to buy another gasket and bearing kit and build another motor.


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