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alex_roe
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so i go to start up my car today to get to school, and i hear a loud bang after bout 10 seconds of having it on...

opened the hood, and my intake cam was snapped in half!!!!WTF!

my 240 is nothing but problems..

oh well, least i got an excuse why i'll be late to work everyday


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blacky_s13
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sucks man...look on the bright side you can now Rebuild or Swap tha bit*h

alex_roe
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i was thinking about rebuilding, but the cams i wanna get alone are $500

i should just go with an SR swap

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That sucks but it looks like you already have a plan

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Ghast
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It could be worse right?

You could have got to school, parked, and went about your business only to have someone accidentally run into your car while you are getting your learn on, and not have the courtesy to leave any info on it.

Or it could have burned down... cause of fire unknown.... that would suck.

Try and be positive ^^

Good Luck and keep us posted!

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CRyan
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Ghast wrote:It could be worse right?

You could have got to school, parked, and went about your business only to have someone accidentally run into your car while you are getting your learn on, and not have the courtesy to leave any info on it.

Or it could have burned down... cause of fire unknown.... that would suck.

Try and be positive ^^

Good Luck and keep us posted!


I guess Ghast does have a point lol. It COULD be worse. Think positive - Glad to see you have a plan to get the car back to running and not giving up on her. I'm sure it will be worth it in due time. It always is

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alex_roe wrote:i was thinking about rebuilding, but the cams i wanna get alone are $500

i should just go with an SR swap
Is this an s13 or s14? This could be a blessing in disguise... Why not temporarily swap in a stock exhaust cam for 248/248 on s13 or 248/232 for s14?

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its an s13do you mean putting an exhaust cam in place of the intake that snapped?would that really work? (not so sure)

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Yeah. It's a pretty well documented KA mod. Your stock cam set up is 240(intake)/248(exhaust). You can toss your 240 duration intake cam in the trash and install another 248 duration exhaust cam in it's place. The result will be more top end power out of your KA at a dirt cheap price. All you gotta do now is find yourself another 248 cam...

Here's a write up on the 248/248 setup:http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=158170

And here's more useful info on the other OEM cam swaps...zerothread/152578

Good luck!

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Just from opening the hood you knew the intake cam was broken?

And if it did break a cam swap is not a way to go. Its an interference engine, so its has valve damage at least.

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simmode1 wrote:This could be a blessing in disguise... Why not temporarily swap in a stock exhaust cam for 248/248 on s13 or 248/232 for s14?
alex_roe wrote:so i go to start up my car today to get to school, and i hear a loud bang after bout 10 seconds of having it on...

opened the hood, and my intake cam was snapped in half!!!!
Yeah, a blessing, like maybe you bent a couple valves in that huge bang you heard and need a whole new head. If you're gonna swap, do it now

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Well, naturally, find out what caused the cam to break first. If the problem is bigger than a cam that just went bad after 16 years.... yeah a simple cam swap ain't gonna fix that...


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OutToWinPAHC wrote:Just from opening the hood you knew the intake cam was broken?

And if it did break a cam swap is not a way to go. Its an interference engine, so its has valve damage at least.
no, lol, sorry, im VERY broad with explanations

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damn dude, that oil looks milky. i dont think a cam is going to fix this lol. time for overhaul. get yourself a de replacement and start rebuilding this for a ka-t build

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sebazztard wrote:damn dude, that oil looks milky. i dont think a cam is going to fix this lol. time for overhaul. get yourself a de replacement and start rebuilding this for a ka-t build
its funny because i actually just replaced a head gasket last month, and my oil looked just like it does now, all over again!

so here's what im trying to decide...pay the cash for a rebuild...or buy SR swap



EDIT:I think I'm going with the swap ^_^

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lol that looks like coffee, you got yourself a nice paperweight. lol WOOT! GO FOR THE SWAP!

alex_roe
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lol, a pretty nice paper weight. :D

will post pics once its finished

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alex_roe wrote:opened the hood, and my intake cam was snapped in half!!!
The more important thing you need to ask yourself is how you can just open the hood and see your cam, wtf happened to your valve cover?

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ddgsxr504 wrote:The more important thing you need to ask yourself is how you can just open the hood and see your cam, wtf happened to your valve cover?

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ddgsxr504 wrote:


The more important thing you need to ask yourself is how you can just open the hood and see your cam, wtf happened to your valve cover?
i took off my valve cover?lol, like i said, i give very broad explanations

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alex_roe wrote:
i took off my valve cover?lol, like i said, i give very broad explanations
No I get it, I'm just ball bustin. Seriously though, what made you think to look there?

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damn, how the hell does something like that happen.

Good time to motor swap. Good luck

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When you replaced the head gasket, you probably pried up on the cam to pop it out and probably weakened/cracked the cam. Ive seen that one happen like 5 times. Only they actually snap completely right then and there.

Say goodbye to that motor.

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white90esex wrote:damn, how the hell does something like that happen.
Timing chain slip, timing chain go by-bye, um, anything involved in timing, really...Maybe he had excessive chain rattle and couldn't hear it over teh VROOM VROOM!!!

Rare instances can be with oil problems like a clogged oil pickup from crap in the oilpan or something stuck in the oil lines leading to the head.. My guess would be coolant gunking up the works if that.

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Naloos13 wrote:When you replaced the head gasket, you probably pried up on the cam to pop it out and probably weakened/cracked the cam. Ive seen that one happen like 5 times. Only they actually snap completely right then and there.

Say goodbye to that motor.
I did pry at the camshaft to get it off, but i didn't apply much force. Perhaps i torqued the bolts incorrectly?

but even if i did, that wouldn't make it snap like that, just flatten out, correct?so it must have been that the timing chain had some slack??

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Time for the swap

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Dam that is some crazy sh$t , get that other 248 cam and slowly pile up the parts to boost your KA

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alex_roe wrote:
I did pry at the camshaft to get it off, but i didn't apply much force. Perhaps i torqued the bolts incorrectly?
The guy who suggested this is right. You're supposed to twist and spin the cam out of place once it's unbolted. Maybe you also tightened them past 10 ft lb (i think is the value), adding to the stress to turn the cam at that particular point.

Gotta b really careful with these cast cams.GL, but your coolant looks like you should ditch the KA

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alex_roe wrote:
its funny because i actually just replaced a head gasket last month, and my oil looked just like it does now, all over again!

so here's what im trying to decide...pay the cash for a rebuild...or buy SR swap



EDIT:I think I'm going with the swap ^_^
Again I love to point out that most SR's come from wrecked cars in JDM land. Unless its a S15 SR20DET its going to be in the range of 18-11 years old. Don't buy an SR and think its a good new motor. It could be used and abused and also on its way out. If you do go this route, please rebuild it.

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:
Again I love to point out that most SR's come from wrecked cars in JDM land. Unless its a S15 SR20DET its going to be in the range of 18-11 years old. Don't buy an SR and think its a good new motor. It could be used and abused and also on its way out. If you do go this route, please rebuild it.
This is the exact same logic that makes me disregard SR swaps in my case. If you're gonna rebuild a motor, you might as well rebuild/fortify the one you've already got and turbo it rather than spend $2000 on a JDM motor and rebuild costs ontop of that. But whatever floats your boat, I guess...


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