ecu tunes (enthalpy ECU and jim wolf ecu)

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I know both ecus are great, but I called jim wolf technology last thursday and one of the reps told me that there was a 6-8 week delay on ecus since they are so far behind. Does anyone know how long the wait is on an enthalpy tune is? can enthalpy do both ka and sr tunes? Is there any other companies out there tuning ecus that are up to par?


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Scott Enthalpy web site with info.http://www.xatracing.com/

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enthalpy ECU is about a week wait

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don't know if you read this thread before, but it was a response to a similar jim wolf ecu tune question...here's the thread:zerothread?id=110511

it's pretty much diy ecu tuning.

i've always wondered why jim wolf and other ecu tuning get so backed up. i mean it's a pretty standard procedure from what i understand... there's nothing really crazy about stock ecu tunes. they either flash the drive and modify it to work with other new parts (better mafs, and other upgraded sensors) or they add a daughterboard or do a rom tune or whatever, but there's nothing that should take that long to do... they aren't doing everything on a car to car basis (neglecting special requests)... all of their tunes are done universally, which is why they tune so rich. they just have tunes ready to load up, so it's not like they have to sit there an do the work on a car and make everything precise... it's just weird. 6-8 weeks? i've heard much longer than that before.

EDIT: haha i just looked at the original post and it was your question that that thread was a response to.. my stupid.
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I heard for us obd2 s14, its like an 18 week wait since the harness adapters are on backorder..

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its an s14 ecu is a long wait for enthaply. for s14's he uses s13 ecu's with the harness adapter. his supplier is backordered

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With all the damn engineers we have on NICO, why haven't we made an affordable ECU tune yet??? Or atleast on that is available. When I start up my detailing bussiness I'm willing to finance someone who has the knowledge, all I know is add alcohol and boost and you get big power. Wiring and circuits have always been my downfall.

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there is an affordable ecu tune, but it's completely dyi. If we could create a program (shareware can't be used for a profit) and market it to shop owners with dynos -where customers could have their cars tuned at- it'd be great, but i imagine that takes a lot of money which in turn drives the price up. the closest i've seen is Neptune which is available only to select tuners

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what happen to that bikirom post?

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Structure240sx wrote:its an s14 ecu is a long wait for enthaply. for s14's he uses s13 ecu's with the harness adapter. his supplier is backordered
so do we still send him our S14 ecus, or do we have to buy one and send him an S13 one?

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one of my many projects over the summer is going to be really testing out the bikirom system on my car and tuning it. if i can get as much done as i would like to and people like what they hear about my experiences then maybe people will really start supporting the bikirom tunes and systems... the whole bikirom tuning is such an appealing thing to me and my friends and family because you only have to buy the equipment once, and then you can do tunes on as many cars as you want, provided they are working with the same independent ecu... for me and my brother this is just such a blessing because together we would end up paying thousands of dollars into fuel management over the years if we decided to up the ante or turn it down or whatever.

the problem is that i'm an engineering student and extra time just doesn't exist for me... so over the summer when i have a lighter course load, well then it becomes more feasible for me to work on things like the car, the house and all other stuff... lately i have been living with clothes all over the floor, dirty dishes piling up and my car still is not complete because i don't have the time to get a paint job and reinstall the interior pieces so i can mount my gauges and other things. i just can't wait until summer because i am excited about getting this stuff moving.

biki has expressed that he is very willing to work with me and whoever else is interested in his setup so that a person to person, car to car basis tune is not just a dream (because i can't pay thousands for a dyno tune or for jwt to re flash my ecu, or whatever... ). but at this stage i cannot comment on how effective, or how things are working or what problems there are, or whatever because i haven't even started this whole process.

may 17. that is the date i am completely finished with finals. i may order parts and equipment before then but i cannot even conceive of getting physically started on or before this date. i will definitely be posting my experiences as things progress though, and i have talked to people about doing write ups of their experiences with the older biki boards and setups. i have heard good things so far but we will all see when the write ups come i guess...


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can Enthalpy re tune a JWT ECU?

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Enthalpy charges $500 for a retune, JWT charges $100. WHy bother? Enthalpy uses a more aggressive timing map. just advance the base timing a few degree's and you'll make plenty of power. Want to lean out the fuel mapping, buy a SAFCII.

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Siizzzoooo wrote: so do we still send him our S14 ecus, or do we have to buy one and send him an S13 one?
Last time I chcked with PJ, even if your car is a S14, you have to send in a S13 ECU

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WDRacing wrote:Enthalpy charges $500 for a retune.
Thats only a several thousand percent profit margin. Seeing as how the chips are re-burnable, and, you use the same daughterboard.

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WD, you just answered both of my questions

So basically SAFC for fine tunning mixture and distributor rotation for timing adjustmentsBUTif I rotate the distributor to change base timing my idle and off boost performance will be ______a)degradedb) still the same (how come)c) betterWill be nice if someone have the timming map to check how much retard the JWT does compared to Enthalpy

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Just got an email back from scott today, it'll be a few months before he can do any more S14 ECU's as he waits on parts.

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freaking like the profit coffee companies make on a cup of coffee.... it's dirt cheap and just by chraging like $1.50 a cup (since most people will only drink 1 or 2 cups even if it's bottomless) they make like 1000% profit lol.

yeah so basically bikirom here i come... when i have some time and when the new boards arrive of course.

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Use the MSD BTM...your timing problems are now solved...lol.

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Except under boost, on some peoples cars with the SAFC, the ECU seems to be pulling timing to a certain extent, in which case the BTM would pull too much...

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blubottlemax wrote:Just got an email back from scott today, it'll be a few months before he can do any more S14 ECU's as he waits on parts.
Is this true because I ordered mine through boostdesigns.com on March 16th and until today we had not gotten the core straightened out because there was no way to pay it over the website nor an amount to pay.

I am not going to be happy if I am supposed to wait months for this ecu - Hell I'll be angry if I have to wait more than 1 week after all this time.

No one has said anything to me about a delay and if that is the case I'd rather just pay extra and get the AEM EMS since I already have $750 toward the Enthalpy and core.

Maybe PJ will get on here and answer that for me. If there is that much of a delay please let me get the AEM EMS or at least the Greddy e-manage instead so I can get my car running!

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that is a pretty serious delay. if i was in the s14 shoes, i would definitely be making calls and shooting emails as that downtime is really only manageable if ur 240 isnt a DD.

Back on topic, im waiting for hysteria to get this biki stuff up and running cuz it would really be nice to have more ecu options...........

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This is the exact email on got on April 19th:my 95+ stuff is on backorder for a few months. i am havign some difficultyfindingparts right now.-- Scott AvoyI don't think Scott visits these forums. I would try contacting him directly, but give him a few days to answer you though, as I'm sure he gets a TON of emails about this. [email protected]

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My issue would be with boostdesigns on that because I asked how long getting everything would take before I made my purchases and PJ told me that he didn't see any longer than 3 weeks and that was on 3/16 and I am still waiting on the ecu, wastegate, ic fittings and blow off valve. Long time to wait!

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man this is disappointing news, because it is quite discouraging for people to hear that their car will be out of commission for a long time.

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I have been reassured that the rest of the stuff is being finished up and sent out this week. I had my clutch stay engaged on me today so my car is back in the shop on account of that - I am hoping it is just air because it wasn't bled thoroughly enough!

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I dont mean to depress anyone on here, but it took boostdesigns well over a month to get me my kit (about 6 weeks). I didnt even send in my ecu. I just wanted to run off a freaking fmu, and it still took that long. be prepared to wait. It sux I know, but youll get the turbo kit sooner or later. At least the shipping is cheap lol.


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