Ebay projector lights

[#1Tango]

Can you put HIDs in them with a ballast? wondering if anyone did that, because on some of the listings it says you cannot put HIDs in them and im just wondering why. thanks

[Red Devil]

Can you put HIDs in them with a ballast? wondering if anyone did that, because on some of the listings it says you cannot put HIDs in them and im just wondering why. thanks

It could be that they are non-HID projectors. That means they could be designed to work with Halogens and will produce excess glare when used with HID's.

[IMHungry]

Not recommended because they apparently produce a lot more heat and can melt the socket/wiring harness.

Not a Nissan part. Not covered under warranty.Proceed at your own risk.

[#1Tango]

Not recommended because they apparently produce a lot more heat and can melt the socket/wiring harness.

Not a Nissan part. Not covered under warranty.Proceed at your own risk.

HIDs are cooler than halogens.

It could be that they are non-HID projectors. That means they could be designed to work with Halogens and will produce excess glare when used with HID's.

thanks, makes sense i guess

[IMHungry]

HIDs are cooler than halogens.

I stand corrected then.

[Red Devil]

HIDs are cooler than halogens.

They may look cooler but they'll piss off every other person on the road coming the opposite direction. The only way to have no glare is to retrofit a housing designed for HID's. That means taking the housing, cutting it, mounting the HID Projector/HID Housing, testing and hoping it'll come out ok.

If you want the look of HID's just get colored Halogen bulbs.

[blindsnyper]

They may look cooler but they'll piss off every other person on the road coming the opposite direction. The only way to have no glare is to retrofit a housing designed for HID's. That means taking the housing, cutting it, mounting the HID Projector/HID Housing, testing and hoping it'll come out ok.

If you want the look of HID's just get colored Halogen bulbs.

cooloer as in colder

[shiryu0]

yeah, HIDs RUN cooler.......they just happen to LOOK cooler too lol

[#1Tango]

yeah cooler temp wise, i should of said that before, my bad

[vkheifets]

So what is the verdict has anybody ever put the h3 hid bullbs in the ebay projector heal light casings?

[manvan]

They may look cooler but they'll piss off every other person on the road coming the opposite direction. The only way to have no glare is to retrofit a housing designed for HID's. That means taking the housing, cutting it, mounting the HID Projector/HID Housing, testing and hoping it'll come out ok.

If you want the look of HID's just get colored Halogen bulbs.

who cares about other drivers as long as its not you, plus you see so much better, id rather piss off people then not see as well.

[tyler_ofspain]

who cares about other drivers as long as its not you, plus you see so much better, id rather piss off people then not see as well.

the idea of a projector is to not blind other drivers... i want to know if my HID's would fit in those projectors...

[Red Devil]

who cares about other drivers as long as its not you, plus you see so much better, id rather piss off people then not see as well.

Not necessarily. You may have a brighter temp, but it doesn't always mean better light output.

[feloniousmonk]

who cares about other drivers as long as its not you, plus you see so much better, id rather piss off people then not see as well.

Well that's just great. What if everyone adopted your attitude and mounted million candle watt anti-aircraft spotlights on their car and drove around with them on? Just how much will you see with you squinting all the time? Highly illogical.

Throwing out tons of light won't help you see better if your lights aren't aimed properly. Before you complain about poor lighting and sink untold sums on "solutions" check your headlight alignment first. The Versa has better lighting than just about every car I've owned, including the BMW.

1. Find a level parking lot or driveway with a wall you can park 25 ft perpendicular to. 2. Measure the height of your headlight bulbs from the ground. 3. The height of the top cutoff (of casted light) on the wall should be about the same. 4. If you want it higher then nudge it higher. 5. Typically you don't want the cutoff to be above the trunk of the car ahead of you. You want them to see you coming, not blind them with glare so they can't tell how fast you are coming up on them. You don't want them to have a knee-jerk reaction and change lanes right into your path.
Modified by feloniousmonk at 5:07 PM 3/30/2009

[Red Devil]

who cares about other drivers ....

People who aren't self absorbed douchebags? If half the people on the road gave a damn about other people on the road and paid attention to the road/world around them, there'd be a lot fewer accidents.

[manvan]

sad truth is that no one really gives a damn about the other car on the road, your looking out for your self on the road, and hopefully keeping a weary eye on the other drivers to make sure they dont mess up around you, not concentrating on another guys headlights

[Shad0wXCalibur]

Maybe I'm one of the few that thinks the OEM headlights are actually pretty good. Instead of spending $400+ on projectors and HIDs, I would stay OEM and use Osram Hyper 65/70 watt H4 bulbs. I've read they make a big difference (even over Silverstars) without blinding anyone due to the cutoff shield on the low beam filament and without overheating anything since the bulb is only 10 watts higher.

Here's a little chart showing the differences: (wattage, lumens, then hours of life)

Halogen 60H/55L 1650/1000 500 Hyper 70H/65L 2000/1350 400 Hyper 85H/80L 2400/1750 350Xenon +50 60H/55L 1895/1150 350

The hyper is brighter and at the same time has a longer life than the xenon stock wattage bulb. I would not recommend running the 85/80.

[feloniousmonk]

Maybe I'm one of the few that thinks the OEM headlights are actually pretty good. Instead of spending $400+ on projectors and HIDs, I would stay OEM and use Osram Hyper 65/70 watt H4 bulbs. I've read they make a big difference (even over Silverstars) without blinding anyone due to the cutoff shield on the low beam filament and without overheating anything since the bulb is only 10 watts higher.

Here's a little chart showing the differences: (wattage, lumens, then hours of life)

Halogen 60H/55L 1650/1000 500 Hyper 70H/65L 2000/1350 400 Hyper 85H/80L 2400/1750 350Xenon +50 60H/55L 1895/1150 350

The hyper is brighter and at the same time has a longer life than the xenon stock wattage bulb. I would not recommend running the 85/80.

Even the so-called hyper or superwhite bulbs are a waste of money. None of them have been independently proven to be brighter or provide better actual performance. Mostly marketing voodoo to make you think that you actually need it.

http://www.danielsternlighting....html

Just stick with normal factory rated bulbs and optimize aiming of the headlights. Regardless of bulb choice, light output is still physically restricted by the factory optics. You can not cheat physics.

[feloniousmonk]

sad truth is that no one really gives a damn about the other car on the road, your looking out for your self on the road, and hopefully keeping a weary eye on the other drivers to make sure they dont mess up around you, not concentrating on another guys headlights

When a guy comes at you with very bright lights aimed right at eye level on a poorly lit road, it's pretty hard to see where you are going. Think about how the human eye works, very much like the aperture of a camera lens. In low light your pupils dilate to let in as much light as possible to hit your retina (when taking pictures in the dark, you open up the aperture or iris so you can have enough light for proper exposure). When a bright intense light enters the scene your eye immediately tries to compensate. Your pupils contract to avoid burn-in or overexposure to light. Ever stare a into the sun or a flashlight and can't see much but a blue/purple spot wherever you look? That's what happens when you have some dolt coming at you with high beams, retrofit HIDs or misaligned halogen headlights. Your pupils contract, preventing enough light from the dark surroundings from reaching your retina, hindering your ability to see the road or the dark surroundings.

At the risk of being impolite, your argument is thoroughly flawed. Driving on public roads with other drivers is not a series of isolated incidents. Everything you do affects everyone else and vise versa.
Modified by feloniousmonk at 11:04 PM 3/31/2009

[Red Devil]

When a guy comes at you with very bright lights aimed right at eye level on a poorly lit road, it's pretty hard to see where you are going. Think about how the human eye works, very much like the aperture of a camera lens. In low light your pupils dilate to let in as much light as possible to hit your retina (when taking pictures in the dark, you open up the aperture or iris so you can have enough light for proper exposure). When a bright intense light enters the scene your eye immediately tries to compensate. Your pupils contract to avoid burn-in or overexposure to light. Ever stare a into the sun or a flashlight and can't see much but a blue/purple spot wherever you look? That's what happens when you have some dolt coming at you with high beams, retrofit HIDs or misaligned halogen headlights. Your pupils contract, preventing enough light from the dark surroundings from reaching your retina, hindering your ability to see the road or the dark surroundings.

At the risk of being impolite, your argument is thoroughly flawed. Driving on public roads with other drivers are not series of isolated incidents. Everything you do affects everyone else and vise versa.

Exactly.

[manvan]

you know the rear view mirror can flip to deflect the light down but still allows you to see right? the little black tab? or do you guys just sit there and let people blind you? cuz that would suck for you guys

[MinisterofDOOM]

who cares about other drivers as long as its not you, plus you see so much better, id rather piss off people then not see as well.

Please walk to the nearest garbage can and toss your drivers' license in there. It's not merely a question of annoyance. Bright lights reduce visibility, becoming a MAJOR SAFETY concern. Maybe YOU don't care about other drivers, but that makes you part of the PROBLEM. There are plenty of us who DO care about other drivers on the road. Please stay out of Utah. There are enough jerks on the road here as it is.

you know the rear view mirror can flip to deflect the light down but still allows you to see right? the little black tab? or do you guys just sit there and let people blind you? cuz that would suck for you guys

Great, so no light from the rearview mirror. What happens when someone is coming TOWARD you with bright lights? What about SIDE view mirrors?

GTFO my road.

Consider:You're sitting at an intersection preparing to turn left. The car in front of you, turning left from the opposite direction, has badly swapped HIDs or even just his brights on. You can't see ANYTHING past or around that other car. Do you attempt to go and risk an accident? Or do you sit there and wait, holding up EVERY OTHER CAR, all of which have places to be? Neither option is good, and neither would be necessary if the moron in the car across from you would use a little common sense.

[manvan]

screw utah, ill stick to chicago where my lack of care is shared by all

[Touch524]

i am about to .. should I??

[silverarrow27]

For you guys installing HID kits, make sure you guys buy kits with cut offs or you're asking for trouble from your local pd, especially here in CA.

[Urq]

For you guys installing HID kits, make sure you guys buy kits with cut offs or you're asking for trouble from your local pd, especially here in CA.

So what is a cut off?

[silverarrow27]

Cut-off: A distinctive line of light produced by the shield in a headlight that blocks light above a certain height in order to prevent blinding of other motorists.

http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html

[Moghedian]

screw utah, ill stick to chicago where my lack of care is shared by all

Hes right, every vehicle in Chicago has sustained body damage somewhere on it, and the people drive like asses.

[Mailz]

And what's about XENON 07-08 NISSAN VERSA CCFL PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS HID? They come with xenon lamps... Or it's the same fake as HIDs in stock headlights? At least e-bay projectors look like the xenon optics (got lences or smth)...
Modified by Mailz at 12:00 PM 6/22/2009