Ebay Kit - (I know, I know...) has anyone actually tried this one?

[racerjake]

Just wondering if anyone actually ever used this one that's all over ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

In theory, throw in an FMU and a Walbro fuel pump and this thing should work right? (oh yeah, and the oil return line) For maybe 200hp to the wheels or so? Even if the T25 is junk (and the glue comes apart), I could just put on a used T25 from a SR to replace it.

Am I missing something? I'm looking to build a low-boost setup for my S13, and while I understand that these parts aren't the best quality - it kinda seems like a decent starting point. I just use the car as a weekend drifter, so I doubt it will see more than a thousand miles a year - so long term durability isn't a big priority.

[racerjake]

This guy is sellling it too, and has better pics...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

[Tulsa_S-13]

Avoid it!

Cheap parts, chinese made turbo

They state that the kit is "good for 300-350hp" which is bull**** since the T25 would be totally inefficient at the boost levels required for that power.

Basically, if they don't know the efficiency of the turbo, they don't know what they are doing.

[Florida240sx]

Wait 2-3weeks. Have the kit on a car right now... If able to fix the little bugs with it, it wll be in a drift event this Sunday... added fuel pump and fmu and safc...

[480sx]

Ebay is a great place to buy front mount intercoolers, used name brand parts(from reputable dealers), and rims. I would steer clear of those full ebay turbo kits. I would imagine you get a cheap, monkey welded exhaust manifold. On top of that, what ebay kit is complete without a Chinese made turbo, that people here have rated from fair to awful. Awful as in they dont last over 1000 miles.

Its really not worth the risk because you never know what your going to get. Even if someone here has bought an ebay turbo kit, they are all going to be different. If you get lucky enough to find someone here that HAS bought the kit from the same dealer your looking at, theres still no way to tell if the kit you get is worth a @#$%. Chinese turbos and quality control arnt used in the same sentence without the combination of words 'lack there of'.

[WDRacing]

Man, thats so cheap I almost want to buy it and just try it out...lol.

Worst case the turbo takes a crap on you and you use a different turbo two months from now. I say use, and keep a close eye on things then let everyone know exactly what the deal is with the kit.

I'd cut the T2 flange and weld a T3 flange on there and run a T3/TO4 instead. But you can do that once this one craps itself on you.

The turbo isn't good for much more then 5-6 psi before it becomes a heat pump. I have no idea what the wastegate is set to though, if its more, you could have problems.

WD

[Riubens]

I slapped this turbo kit to my cousins s13 and no http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

no problems so far its been 5k miles and it pulls very hard with just safc2 370cc injectors and timing retarded, b in other words I raped a 350z while tuning it on the highway with the wideband. my cousin don't know much about cars he basically wanted to make his car faster cheap I just lead the way.

btw theres another guy that am buying this kit for as we speak cause he is amazed with the results that kit. good luck

[Zane98S14]

I debated about several of the kits on ebay...there was one a couple days ago with a T3/04 for the same price as the T25 kit. But somethin doesn't sit right with me but its SO CHEAP!!!!!! Its tempting

[Logan76]

Brian, im pretty shure that the T25 can push around 10-12 psi and still be in its effieciency range, it turns into a blow dryer around 14psi.

[WDRacing]

Maybe on a SR or CA, but not a KA. The exhaust restriction will seriously limit power production.

WD

[Edub1]

If you want 200HP cheap go with a T3 Super 60 at 5lbs with no intercooler and an FMU.

You will save on FMIC & pipe, tuning, relocating battery, injectors. Just keep the boost low.

[WDRacing]

I dunno if he'll hit 200, but that is definitly the cheapest way to boost your ride. Even at 5 lbs of boost it will be an entirley different vehicle. It won't be shock and awe fast, but it will be fun.

I'd honestly say that 200whp is probably the fun marker for light RWD cars, or even FWD for that matter.

As time goes by and you need more power, a simple FMIC and boost controller and 3-4 lbs of boost will be safe and fairly cheap.

WD

[racerjake]

Why go for a T3 over a T25 on for a low boost setup?

-- BTW, thanks for not flaming the noob!!!

[WDRacing]

Well, low boost setups ALWAYS end up being high boost setups...lol. Boost is like heroin my friend. If you can keep her to 8 PSI, you'll be ok. Anymore and you'll be wishing you had a T3 flanged manifold so you could upgrade turbo's. Thats the worst part about going with a T25, you have to upgrade the manifold and the turbo...

You'll enjoy boost reguardless of how much though.

WD

[racerjake]

Other ?'s: I have a friend who is an incredible welder/fabricator, but doesn't know a Turbo from a Turkey.

Are there fairly simple rules of thumb for tubing diameter and style for the mani so I could just have him make the mani, etc.? I've read that that equal length is overated, and the trick is just making them short to spool up quick.

I've see those FMIC intercoolers with tubing on eBay for $150 all day long.Used Garrett T3: $100Vortec FMU: $75Walbro: $75 Oil lines: $75 on ebayCustom piping for Mani, downpipe, exhaust: Beer for bud

Could this be 200hp for under $500?

Room to grow later: SAFC. 370cc injectors, MAF, head gasket, clutch, etc...

[1995240sxSE]

you are forgetting the most important part down the road... tuning!!! Need atleast a wideband to tune your safc, ask my 1st motor!! Get a t3 manifold!!! and get a t304 cause u will want a external wastegate down the road! I havent heard it yet so you get what you pay for dont expect huge gains for 500 bucks. fast good and cheap dont ever go togother!ps stock hg will be fine down the road!

[WDRacing]

For low boost the FMU is all he needs...

Under 1000 is definitly possible with all EBAY parts. I was reading up on them in a few other forums I frequent. Most of the parts can be made to work very well with a little DIY work.

The real issue is being able to stop at 200WHP...lol. I know I can't.

Boost = Heroin for me...

WD

[Edub1]

Other ?'s: I have a friend who is an incredible welder/fabricator, but doesn't know a Turbo from a Turkey.

Are there fairly simple rules of thumb for tubing diameter and style for the mani so I could just have him make the mani, etc.? I've read that that equal length is overated, and the trick is just making them short to spool up quick.

I've see those FMIC intercoolers with tubing on eBay for $150 all day long.Used Garrett T3: $100Vortec FMU: $75Walbro: $75 Oil lines: $75 on ebayCustom piping for Mani, downpipe, exhaust: Beer for bud

Could this be 200hp for under $500?

Room to grow later: SAFC. 370cc injectors, MAF, head gasket, clutch, etc...

Equal length isn't over rated just expensive. Look at the JGS manifold for ideas on what to use (Weldbends) and understand that air molecules will bounce off a surface at the same angle at which they hit the surface. I was envisioning a mani in my head that would use 4 elbos with the outer two turning into the inner two and the inner two angeling into the collector. Anyway, you don't want exhaust pulses to colide or make sharp turns if you can help it. The Gladman mani is the best low budget one in my opinion but I'm not sure he is still making them.

Also, you can get a good FMIC for under $100 but pipe and stuff will add another $200. And I don't know if the $100 Ebay turbo is going to be a wise investment. Get a rebuilt super 60 and keep the boost low - you can always add the FMIC later.

[WDRacing]

There are 3 full FMIC kits with piping and all forsale on EBAY between $115 and $160 right now.

WD

[Edub1]

There are 3 full FMIC kits with piping and all forsale on EBAY between $115 and $160 right now.

WD

Right, and a few odd parts to make it fit and the hardware to relocate the battery and you can add another $100 easy.

[BadMojo]

I would love to have a good low boost, ~200whp inexpensive setup. I think that would make for a fun car.

As part of the old Ebay part search, has anyone seen this manifold?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...photo

Is it just another Revhard copy that will have brake master cylinder clearance problems if you aren't using an on center turbo?

Do they even make T3 Super 60's with an on center housing?

[WDRacing]

Better off spending a little extra cash and getting the JGS mani.

JGS Manifold