Ebay coilovers :)

[nab911]

Im sure its been posted, im sure ill get flamed, but how bad can those $50 ebay adjustable springs REALLY be? I mean, thare are metal springs, the worst they could do is feel the same as stock or be really stiff. Would they blow KYB struts?

[SoCalSilvia]

[SmithSR]

They are a sham because they are a sleeve that fits over the OEM strut cartrige. Worst idea ever, populated by honda e-thugs...

The sleeve is never really tight against the strut, using only rubber orings to hold it's position. Imagine cornering loads and the doom you just asked for. The spring is short, and has no real ability to lower the car while at the same time staying seated against both the top and bottom mounts. Translation is, the spring will flip, flop, band around, and generally suck.

DON'T BUY THEM, EVER.

[SmithSR]

Let me add:

We know that a sleeve styled coilover isn't for performance. That means only one thing. They are for appearance and looks, not spirited driving, which is what the S chassis is great at.

[nab911]

Ok thats all i wanted . I just wanted to know WHY they sucked so bad. THANKS GUYS!

[Dori Dori]

OK, lemme clear some things up here. First off, the sleeve/perch does not sit on a rubber o-ring. It sits on the left over weld after you cut the old lower perch off so you don't have to worry about them flopping off. Secondly, sleeves ARE for performance. There are ton's of race cars using them. Go to any track event, any race day, anywhere and you can see for yourselves. I've personally been using a Ground Control sleeve kit for over a year now on my KYB Buzz Spec struts and I love em...not one issue. I've owned a fair amount of JDM coilovers in the past amongst other setups and have driven many more cars with JDM coilovers and I can honestly say my setup outperforms the majority of them (to me). Don't get a sleeve kit b/c you are trying to save money though. That's stupid and you'll be doing nothing but selling yourself short. Lord knows that after my struts and camber plates, I saved next to nothing. I digress...

Now, the sleeve kit in question is a cheap ebay knock-off probably made in Taiwan and as with all cheap ebay knock-off items made in Taiwan, they most likely have a fair amount of quality and longevity issues. Chances are no R&D went into this setup and performance was not the main priority throughout the design process. There's an old saying, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Buy name brands all the time especially when you are talking about your suspension. If something were to break, at least you'll be able to talk to someone in the US and possibly get a replacement or refund. I hope that never happens to anyone though.

[nab911]

I just wanted a cheap $50 drop for the convertible till i could afford to get some teins or some SPL coilovers when they get done with the s13's I know all about suspension i just wanted to know why these are so much worse than just springs and struts. And i wasnt looking for performance, but can they be worse than stock?

[j-z]

if all youre looking for is a drop to your likings (adjustable), then i say why not. its only $50, and you said youre not looking for performance. the only thing though, i dont know about you, but i hate doing things twice. thats something to think about unless you dont mind doing extra work.

[SmithSR]

OK, lemme clear some things up here. First off, the sleeve/perch does not sit on a rubber o-ring. It sits on the left over weld after you cut the old lower perch off so you don't have to worry about them flopping off.

In the middle is your strut(probably not suited in any way to match a severely lowered application such as most knockoff coilover users seek) in between the strut and the coilover sleeve are a couple O rings that take up the gap and poorly set the position of the sleeve over the strut(oh, along with gravity..nice seat you have there hero). Backyard if I've ever seen it. Only for looks. That was my impression with the first, and last, and only set I'd ever buy, ground control setup from six years ago. Since then I thought we would have evolved past this ebay fake junk.

[Dori Dori]

In the middle is your strut(probably not suited in any way to match a severely lowered application such as most knockoff coilover users seek) in between the strut and the coilover sleeve are a couple O rings that take up the gap and poorly set the position of the sleeve over the strut(oh, along with gravity..nice seat you have there hero). Backyard if I've ever seen it. Only for looks. That was my impression with the first, and last, and only set I'd ever buy, ground control setup from six years ago. Since then I thought we would have evolved past this ebay fake junk.

The O-rings, as far as I can tell, only serve one function and that's to keep the perch from spinning (so that you can adjust the height without problem). The perches themselves are seated on the old weld. This design has worked fine for me in a variety of race conditions...the same can be said for countless other race cars. Think what you will of a coilover sleeve though. The proof of their functionality is easily seen with anyone who chooses to use them, villain.

[blkonblk240sx]

I'll tell you this much don't do it. I bought some for my 95 and I got them pretty quick. Well it turns out they don't fit. The box says for 89-94 240sx but the guy swears it fits 89-99 240sx. I told him they dont fit and he told me to take them to a bodyshop. I also explained that no other company makes springs/coilovers for both generations. See they don't fit over the center of the shock. The front ones are too extended and come no way close to fitting back on. The back ones just barely fit but only if the adjustment is on the very bottom and it is so tight that you can't adjust them. When they were installed (the back ones fronts we never got on) it sat higher that stock. We even grinded down the center of the shock to try to fit them over it but no. I keep emailing him and am just getting run around so I guess i'm out 86 dollars and some change. But if some one with a 89-94 240sx wants it give'em a shot I'll ship them to them for 50 bucks.

[nab911]

For $50 shipped ill take em. Shoot me some pics at [email protected]. Ill give yall a review when im done .