dumb question i know

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kevdog240
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alright so i know this is dumb but what do you guys do when it rains if you have an fmic? wouldnt it suck up the rain? can you use those AEM bypass valve things on the system? alright, let the flaming begin.......


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hehehe intercoolers dont work like that, they dont take air into the system

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haha, thanks man. one more thing. what about the intake to the turbo? if i make it a cold air intake like the nsport would i need to do anything about that? that way would seem like i would.

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kevdog240 wrote:haha, thanks man. one more thing. what about the intake to the turbo? if i make it a cold air intake like the nsport would i need to do anything about that? that way would seem like i would.


No more than if you used a CAI for a NA motor. Assuming the filter is located at the same location. Before you make this a huge issue, keep in mind that in order to suck up water into the intake, just about the entire opening of the end of the intake pipe will need to be submerged underwater. I'd find a rare excuse to not call a person dumb that does this, because it would be dmb to drive in water that deep and dumber to drive fast in water that deep.

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is dumber a word?

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CAI's really dont matter that much? im driving with the injen one right now and if its raining i try not to drive in the rain b/c of it.

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Like C-Kwik said, your filter will have to be totally submerged in water and left sucking for about 10 minutes before any water acutally makes it pass the throttle body and into your manifold. If you're really paranoid about driving in the rain, then I would suggest getting the AEM bypass valve.

I bought my AEM air bypass valve from this website, check it out.

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no its cool im about to take it off for the turbo. thanks for the help guys. by the way i should have plenty more dumb questions. i think it runs in my genes.

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HA HA HA H AH A HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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silviaNE wrote:HA HA HA H AH A HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


im glad i can entertain, haha

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A CAI is actually a very good thing when using forced induction....As far as water getting into the intake track, don't even worry about it....remember they actually sell water injection kits. So injesting a small amount of water is not a problem...

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well. . . my friend has a '00 prelude NA with a CAI living in SoCal and he went through a puddle, sucked up some water, and totalled his engine. . . I don't know if it was just a whole lotta bad luck on his part but if I were to put a CAI on my car then i'd be dayam sure to get the AEM bypass valve. . . just for peace of mind. . .

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f8sjester wrote:well. . . my friend has a '00 prelude NA with a CAI living in SoCal and he went through a puddle, sucked up some water, and totalled his engine. . . I don't know if it was just a whole lotta bad luck on his part but if I were to put a CAI on my car then i'd be dayam sure to get the AEM bypass valve. . . just for peace of mind. . .


It wasn't bad luck, if any engine sucks water up under anything more than idle it will probably be destroyed. The reason water is bad for your engine to ingest is because water does NOT compress like air, so if you suck more water into a combustion chamber than the volume of the chamber very bad things happen. Under light load (low rpm) the engine may just quit, best case senario you have to pump the water out. Under heavy load the the water could actually cause the cylinder head to come off, break rods, cranks, pistons, all kind of bad stuff. Water injection kits only inject a very small amount of water which is why they are safe. As far as a CAI on the turbo, if the filter were completely submerged it would suck water into the compressor (remember water doesn't compress) and probably just grenade the turbo. Oh and by the way, you wouldn't have to sit in a puddle for 10 minutes. I don't know exacly how much vacume an engine produces but its somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 inches of mercury. Mercury is WAY WAY more viscous than water, so 25 inches of mercury is like 25 feet of water (meaning the suction could suck water up a pipe 25 feet long). If you drive over a puddle and the filter is submerged it WILL suck the water up faster than you can say "OOH ****!". Hope this helps

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If you drive into water deep enough to hydrolock your car you have much bigger things to worry about...

...like how to get out of a floating car!:help :pface

And rain on your intercooler might actually help you.


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