Dual Electric Fans
Dual Electric Fans
im planning on getting rid of the mechanical fan and secondary electric fan and installing a dual electric fan setup..i have heard good things about flexalite products...does anybody know any websites that sell em for a good price? or if not flexalite, some other recommendations...thanks for any info
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doctorj240
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doctorj240
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doctorj240
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wanabe240esx
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240SXer wrote:How about some hayden (pepboys) electrics. That's what I ran on my nissan truck, I ran a single 12 and it was fine, but i think i'd like to run dual 10" pullers mounted on the engine side, would that work well? Also, what about the little stock electric mine has!? Do I remove it?
hayden rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<--------works at pepboys
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orange_guy182
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I had a Hayden in my truck, it worked great. My trans overheated (auto) and so did the truck with it. But I'm sure it would have with the clutch fan too. It was 112 degrees out and I was sitting in traffic, the trans was overheating as it was so that's probably what overheated the engine. It didnt really OVERHEAT, just got fairly high. I kinda want to keep that stock electric in there. I don't know why though..
David.
David.
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96_S14_SE
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I had a discount auto brand (dont rem anymore) 16" pinned to my radiator for 2 yrs. I just wired it up into my ac fan harness. It was ok and only ran when the ac kicked on or the temp hit 200, like the standard fan. In the florida summer however, if I turned my ac on andwas either idleing or in traffic it would go up rather fast.
One summer in particular I was on the Dayton bridge about halfway up with my ac on and it strats blowing out hot air. I looked down to see it just at the top line of the normal range before headding into hot. Turned the ac off and my car was surging from the heat. Trafic wasm oving about .5 mph and there was no emergency lane. I turned on full heat and defrost on and cranked that thing. I was melting and the temp didnt drop, I barely made it off the bridge. Another minute or two and I would have started gushing fluid I sure.
Anyway while I did last 2 summers with it, had I have shrouded it with aluminum and lifted it 2" off of the radiator I dont feel any of this would have happened. I was only effectivly cooling 60% or so of the radiator.
I just sold that to my friend with a rather modded TT-Z and helped him make a shroud and wire it in (coulda wired it himself if he didnt slice his damn hand open with a razor hehe). I replaced it with a set from a 96 altima. No they dont fit, in an s14. I had to take about 1/2" from each side overall, another 1/2" - 3/4" x 4" so it would slide between the frame rails, and some of the extra reinforcement plastic off of the pass side shroud so it would clear the ac liquid tank. Then I had to modify the tabs to work with the rad bolt holes and the bottoms dont line up either, so I am making some alum brackets. I wired the pass side right into the harness and the low speed of the drivers side into a new relay to constantly stay on. This aids with airflow over the headders reducing under hood temp. Basically did the same thing as on that sight (didnt even read that hehe) but with a second relay, added above the one showed. Then I wired the high speed into the a/c harness as well.
Total parts involved a new used relay (low speed operation relay), 2 male 4 prong nissan connectors and a female 4 prong (used from the yard as well) to make a Y harness to give it a oem look while wiring it all together, some solder and some splitloom / tape
Works good but I think since low and high are wired together inside the motor, and high is both wired together and grounds as well in the "Y", im sending current through to the other fans low speed as both come on when I turn the ignition on. No big deal as it works and if I get picky Ill just add another relay.
Btw they move some serious air. Just letting it idle with the ac on, my frame just before the radiator (the part the rad bolts to and the latch) was cool to the touch from the air getting sucked under it. Cost me virtually nothing as I sold the 16" for $50 to cover the cost of the alti fans .
One summer in particular I was on the Dayton bridge about halfway up with my ac on and it strats blowing out hot air. I looked down to see it just at the top line of the normal range before headding into hot. Turned the ac off and my car was surging from the heat. Trafic wasm oving about .5 mph and there was no emergency lane. I turned on full heat and defrost on and cranked that thing. I was melting and the temp didnt drop, I barely made it off the bridge. Another minute or two and I would have started gushing fluid I sure.
Anyway while I did last 2 summers with it, had I have shrouded it with aluminum and lifted it 2" off of the radiator I dont feel any of this would have happened. I was only effectivly cooling 60% or so of the radiator.
I just sold that to my friend with a rather modded TT-Z and helped him make a shroud and wire it in (coulda wired it himself if he didnt slice his damn hand open with a razor hehe). I replaced it with a set from a 96 altima. No they dont fit, in an s14. I had to take about 1/2" from each side overall, another 1/2" - 3/4" x 4" so it would slide between the frame rails, and some of the extra reinforcement plastic off of the pass side shroud so it would clear the ac liquid tank. Then I had to modify the tabs to work with the rad bolt holes and the bottoms dont line up either, so I am making some alum brackets. I wired the pass side right into the harness and the low speed of the drivers side into a new relay to constantly stay on. This aids with airflow over the headders reducing under hood temp. Basically did the same thing as on that sight (didnt even read that hehe) but with a second relay, added above the one showed. Then I wired the high speed into the a/c harness as well.
Total parts involved a new used relay (low speed operation relay), 2 male 4 prong nissan connectors and a female 4 prong (used from the yard as well) to make a Y harness to give it a oem look while wiring it all together, some solder and some splitloom / tape
Works good but I think since low and high are wired together inside the motor, and high is both wired together and grounds as well in the "Y", im sending current through to the other fans low speed as both come on when I turn the ignition on. No big deal as it works and if I get picky Ill just add another relay.
Btw they move some serious air. Just letting it idle with the ac on, my frame just before the radiator (the part the rad bolts to and the latch) was cool to the touch from the air getting sucked under it. Cost me virtually nothing as I sold the 16" for $50 to cover the cost of the alti fans
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Oh and 1991240xs when you ground out the wire normally going to the ecu in the cooling fan relay that is what you are doing.
There is a power in (batt) power out (to fan) an igniton signal and a secondary signal (in this case comming from the ecu upon ac on or overheat). Ground that out and all it needs to complete the circut is the ignition signal, which is supplied by the key on.
There is a power in (batt) power out (to fan) an igniton signal and a secondary signal (in this case comming from the ecu upon ac on or overheat). Ground that out and all it needs to complete the circut is the ignition signal, which is supplied by the key on.
I've taken off and replaced the belt driven fan on my 240 a couple of times to test the diffrence. When it is out I just have the stock electric blowing.
I have never had any problems. I have let it sit idling in 90 degree florida weather, and the tempature varied by about 5 or 10 degrees max. (I installed an aftermarket temp gauge for the purpose of this test) That 5 or 10 degree wobble didn't even show on the stock gauge.
I don't know why so many 240's vary so diffrentlly with the effects of cooling fans.
My advice is to try it, after you install a reliable temp gauge. And save everything for if/when it starts to cause problems. And to the 30 minute parking lot idle test.
I have never had any problems. I have let it sit idling in 90 degree florida weather, and the tempature varied by about 5 or 10 degrees max. (I installed an aftermarket temp gauge for the purpose of this test) That 5 or 10 degree wobble didn't even show on the stock gauge.
I don't know why so many 240's vary so diffrentlly with the effects of cooling fans.
My advice is to try it, after you install a reliable temp gauge. And save everything for if/when it starts to cause problems. And to the 30 minute parking lot idle test.
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Rob (hehe just checked out your ride) yeah I go here and there. Basically only when my friend with a 90 TT-z trying to break 11's goes anymore though. Usually only go on wednesdays as well, as the lanes are smaller.
I drive a 96' ruby pearl automatic #6859. You might have seen it, no? Anyway if my friend can get his transmission rebuilt by wed Ill be there. If not then probably by friday / next wed who knows. Ill definately be at vallencia community college on the 17th (next sun) for the SCCA solo II event.
Give me an email at [email protected] and well make a track day or something.
I drive a 96' ruby pearl automatic #6859. You might have seen it, no? Anyway if my friend can get his transmission rebuilt by wed Ill be there. If not then probably by friday / next wed who knows. Ill definately be at vallencia community college on the 17th (next sun) for the SCCA solo II event.
Give me an email at [email protected] and well make a track day or something.