Dual Color LED Turning Signals

[insomnia816]

I have question regarding the use of dual color (amber/white) LED Turning Signals. Are those legal if I put on my car in Canada? I seen people driving with amber LED turning signal so I was wondering if those too are consider ILLEGAL in the provinces of Canada.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbNYqw1FCmI

[Leo2005]

Shouldn't be a problem. As long as turn signal yellow/amber you should be fine. I'm running them for about 6 months now and have no problems. NY state is very strict about colors on a car.

[insomnia816]

Thanks for the reply Leo. Now that brings up another question. As I have read the other post about the LED tail lamp I assume I would need a flasher for both the LED signals right? Would the flasher be a good option beside the load resisitor? The front pairs has no affects at the back if I just install on the front turning signals right?

[Leo2005]

Right. If you install 2 led lights at the front then you would need 2 load resistors. Flasher can be an option but then you will have to install all 4 led turn signal lights (2 front, 2 back).

[Pescakl1]

Insomnia, you need load resistors where you install leds because leds use almost no current compare to halogen bulbs.You install leds on the front left, you will need a load resistor on the front left.

Regulation asks for manufacturers to find a way to tell the driver when one of his turn signal burnt out. What most of manufacturers used to follow that directive is to monitor the current consumption of their wiring. When a bulb is burnt out, no current is used. For that monitoring, they use a specific flasher unit which commands the flashing and monitor the current used.Unfortunately for us, it is difficult to create a sensitive device, so even if you use few W to light up leds, the unit won't be able to "feel" that use and declare the bulb burnt.For that, you have to use a big resistor (load resistor) which use about the same level of wattage and dissipate the current in heat.Another way to get rid of this control is to change the flasher unit to an unit without the control part (call no load flasher or electronic flasher) but for our car, nobody has find that unit yet. It seems the control is made directly in the electronic boxes of the car, so we have to go the load resistor way.

On another note, if you are interested in these leds units, I have them and not using them as I am working on making my own.So I can sell them to you if you want (cheaper than buying them from the seller of course), and I think I have load resistors too (but I have to check that).Let me know if you are interested.

[insomnia816]

Right. If you install 2 led lights at the front then you would need 2 load resistors. Flasher can be an option but then you will have to install all 4 led turn signal lights (2 front, 2 back).

I see. so basically each LED need a resisitor. A flasher works for all led's.

[insomnia816]

Insomnia, you need load resistors where you install leds because leds use almost no current compare to halogen bulbs.You install leds on the front left, you will need a load resistor on the front left.

Regulation asks for manufacturers to find a way to tell the driver when one of his turn signal burnt out. What most of manufacturers used to follow that directive is to monitor the current consumption of their wiring. When a bulb is burnt out, no current is used. For that monitoring, they use a specific flasher unit which commands the flashing and monitor the current used.Unfortunately for us, it is difficult to create a sensitive device, so even if you use few W to light up leds, the unit won't be able to "feel" that use and declare the bulb burnt.For that, you have to use a big resistor (load resistor) which use about the same level of wattage and dissipate the current in heat.Another way to get rid of this control is to change the flasher unit to an unit without the control part (call no load flasher or electronic flasher) but for our car, nobody has find that unit yet. It seems the control is made directly in the electronic boxes of the car, so we have to go the load resistor way.

On another note, if you are interested in these leds units, I have them and not using them as I am working on making my own.So I can sell them to you if you want (cheaper than buying them from the seller of course), and I think I have load resistors too (but I have to check that).Let me know if you are interested.

I am just curious what type of LED's fit on rogue's front signal socket?

I am looking at the http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior.../true page

[Pescakl1]

I see. so basically each LED need a resisitor. A flasher works for all led's.

Exactly. Unfortunately, no flasher for us, we have to use load resistors.

I am just curious what type of LED's fit on rogue's front signal socket?

We need 1157 socket at the front and 7440 (or 7443) at the back.As for fitting, don't worry. Each socket have their own maximum dimensions and when they create leds version, they assure themselves that they are within these limitations. So if you order 1157 leds, they will fit where halogen 1157 bulbs will fit.That is why you can find some leds bulb with a lot of leds on it but not with the socket that you are looking for, it is because they are bigger and using your socket, they would not fit in the designed space.