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does a dsm have better handling realiabilty then a 240sx?


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its more real than a 240sx? I think they both exist in reality equally the same.

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no, a dsm is a piece of ****

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maybe if it's AWD

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decide for yourself...

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I have only driven a DSM one time. Handled good. I dont think it will come close to the 240's potential.

Plus, according to my mechanic, the DSM's are a pain in the a#@ to work on.

Just my 2 cents.

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specialkonrd wrote:no, a dsm is a piece of ****


I witnessed one of my buddies here at work shut down an '03 Cobra in a drag race on Christmas Eve. Real piece of sh.it. :rolleyes

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Oh yeah, *takes another hit of crack* he was driving a modded '92 Talon AWD.

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maxpower wrote:decide for yourself...

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that's hilarious, he couldn't even pull away from a 5.0. I think he should have upgraded the turbos before stealing the car, come on, only 140 on the straights? I can do 155 before the ECU intervenes. even though they didn't say how long the chase was it doesn't look good for the talon.

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Dsm's don't handle neer as well as a 240. Trust I've raced them on a road course and I used to own a gs-t. they handle like ****. Te awd don't handle all that well but they are very drivable because of the awd 50x50 TS. DSM's have alot of potenial for going fast but they suck on a road course. I raced a 12 second DSM on a roadcourse and he couldn't keep up.

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Cars such as Lancers, Evo's, and Eclipses handle really really well.No one can say other-wise.

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ninjak84 wrote:Cars such as Lancers, Evo's, and Eclipses handle really really well.No one can say other-wise.


It's funny how no one thinks they handle well. Four out of seventeen top regional SCCA honors went to DSMs in the Indy region this past year. Most of the other honors went to several Miatas and S2000's. Pretty good company I would say.

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dsm's are unreliable high maintnence cars imoi never said they were slow hehcars are like peopleyou can run a longer distance going slowerbut ur gonna burn urself out running as fast as you can

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specialkonrd wrote:dsm's are unreliable high maintnence cars imoi never said they were slow hehcars are like peopleyou can run a longer distance going slowerbut ur gonna burn urself out running as fast as you can


Is that you in your avatar getting hit in the head? Are you special because you rode the short bus? Or did you ride the short bus because you're special?

What about the damn Kenyans that run fast as hell for a long period of time? Huh? Huh? :thinker

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Since I own a 12 second AWD dsm that can turn and brake pretty well, I feel the need to speak up here.

First, dsm's are not hard to work on. I didn't know much about cars until I bought my GSX and I've turned every bolt on that monkey. Most mechanics will say a car is difficult to work on because they want to be appreciated. IMHO.

When it comes to turning, AWD flat out owns. Repo and ninja know. If a 12 sec dsm couldn't hang with you quick, then either the driver sucked or his car wasn't set up for anything but drag racing. Sadly, a lot of us neglect the suspension far too long.

However, getting my gsx sideways isn't nearly as easy, or fun as a 240 so I picked one up to tinker with. Plus the gsx's interior is flat out sick, the 240 which is 3 years older looks about 2 decades newer to me.

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I Retract my previous statement about handling. My other statement on my mechanics statement holds true. He only worked on one and will not do another.

I did like the Turbo Talon I drove. Extremly quick.

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repo man wrote:Is that you in your avatar getting hit in the head? Are you special because you rode the short bus? Or did you ride the short bus because you're special?

What about the damn Kenyans that run fast as hell for a long period of time? Huh? Huh? :thinker


are you saying dsm's are powered by kenyans running on hamster wheels under the hood?

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specialkonrd wrote:are you saying dsm's are powered by kenyans running on hamster wheels under the hood?


Nope. I'm saying I could watch your sig all day long...hehe.

I do sometimes feel like my 240 is powered by gerbils running on hamster wheels after getting out of Cold_Zero's WRX. :D

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My brother has one and i can out handle him. He has a 1st Gen Laser RS turbo. It can kick the **** out of me he is running mid 14s in it and only spent like 600 bucks on mods. You can get DSMS in the 13s for cheap!!!!

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http://www.rmsolo.org/results/03/0104nov.txtI'm number 21. look at number 29.

The classes for stock goa-stock (AS) being supposedly fastest for stock carsthroughH-Stock (HS) being supposedly slowest for stock cars.

The Eclipse GSX is in E-Stock as a stock car. His class wasE Street PreparedI was in the G-Stock Class

I'm 8 places above him. I'll scan the course map if you want there quite a few straights.In my opinion the 240sx handles remarkably better than an AWD DSM

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i had a FWD DSM so i think it's obvious that it handled like **** but as far as being reliable, the only problem i ever had with it was the damn lug nuts always got stuck. I never had a major problem.

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Okay, I do have a FWD Plymouth (i know its a dsm but i dont like saying that lol), I dont know about mine being reliable but I also believe your car can be reliable as long as you work on it. Really any car can be reliable just take care of it and not let it rot somewhere :), "your car will take care of you as long as you take care of it". I'm soon to own me possibly a 240 or whatever I decide on. I bought mine for 1675 (with tax and all) let me say its been one thing after another breaking down on that car just b/c some a'hole didnt take care of it. I have put about 1000 already in it. From waterpump,radiator,plug wires, and now its the muffler.

My brakes werent put on good and I was backing up and my whole caliper slid up. Which I'm glad it happen in the driveway, it would have been worse doing 40 or plus mphs and have it happen then, I got real lucky. But once stuff will quit going wrong on this one I can gladly say I'm changing over to a 240 or something else. But as for as a dsm or like my plymouth its been best lil car I've owned So Far. But looking forward to something else. :D

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Well kris that sounds like a challenge. Where are you from? I want some.

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I'm from Peoria, IL, though I really wasn't intending it as a challenge.

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yeah but you obviously haven't learned to respect the 240 as it should be. I'm not trying to start an argument or anything I would just like to prove my point

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QUICKFLOW240 wrote:yeah but you obviously haven't learned to respect the 240 as it should be. I'm not trying to start an argument or anything I would just like to prove my point


Where has kris not shown respect for a 240? And why do you feel the need to make him? He obviously respected them enough to buy one.

I'm also confused about the part where he challenged you QUICKFLOW. I don't really see any kind of a challenge in there but you seem to really want one. Why do you have such a beef if you're trying to offload your car anyway?

Everyone knows 240's handle. There isn't any need to prove a point that's been proven time and time again.

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krisj144 wrote:.

When it comes to turning, AWD flat out owns. Repo and ninja know. If a 12 sec dsm couldn't hang with you quick, then either the driver sucked or his car wasn't set up for anything but drag racing. Sadly, a lot of us neglect the suspension far too long.


Ok what would you call that? Like I said I didn't mean to start an arguement.

FYI- I'm sellin my s14 to buy an s13 only because I'm going back to school and need something a little cheeper.

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QUICKFLOW240 wrote:Ok what would you call that? Like I said I didn't mean to start an arguement.

FYI- I'm sellin my s14 to buy an s13 only because I'm going back to school and need something a little cheeper.


That didn't strike me as a challenge to you. It was simply his opinion. It's very possible that you, being a superior driver, were able to own that particular DSM on that particular day, on that particular course. There are a lot of guys that can drag race but have no idea what to do when they have to actually turn the wheel. It's also possible that his car was set up to drag race.

My point in all of this is that of who's driving.

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I do understand everything you are saying and I want to make it clear that I know it really wasn't a challenge at all I was just kidding about the whole thing but to be honest I love when I can meet up with someone and run a few laps around the road course. You can think of it as more of a friendly invitation than a challenge. And by the way what does any of this have to do with you?

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QUICKFLOW240 wrote:And by the way what does any of this have to do with you?


Everything grasshopper. Everything. :evilhaha


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