DSM awd vs s14 ka24deT

[EckOMaN2k]

Ok well my car is up for sale its a 95 base model automatic s14. An its 3200 but yeah anyways there is a guy who wants to buy my car an no wim having second thoughts i mean its hard as **** to find s14's right now an the price for one in good shape an mileage goes for over 5000. My plan was to sell my car an get a dsm awd maybe already modded for me just a little for 5g's. But now im thinking what should i do either keep my s14 an dont sell it or sell it an save up for another s14, or just sell it an get the dsm. I want to sell because i want a car already turbo'd so i can start modding it. I didnt wanna spend the money on jus building a ka an then turboing it because thats alot of money i say about 7K for the whole deal. So what should i do? Oh yea dont want a SR swap just to let yall know . I mean dsm are cheap to make fast an if i do get one it will prolly be a talon tsi awd 2dn generation.

[RMiller]

Before you sell your car you should drive a DSM and see how you like it. See how you like AWD as opposed to RWD. Don't be afraid to pretend you're ready to buy if that's what it takes to get behind the wheel of one. That's how I got in an RX-7. Also, DSMs are not as reliable as Nissans, but you'll definitely get more power for the price in a DSM.

[240sxGT]

Just my experience DSM is junk, please stick with the S14!!!!!!!

[SeVa-S13]

Cheap AWD Turbo *is* nice. But so is having a running car. Have the money and the desire to support a DSM? Then go for it.

[BB Turbo]

Ha! Thats why I am selling my brothers DSM, for a 240sx for himself. DSM's are pieces, unreliable. But, yes good power to money ratio.

[Phax]

I mean dsm are cheap to make fast an if i do get one it will prolly be a talon tsi awd 2dn generation.

Got crank walk? You might if you buy a 2nd generation DSM.

Cheap and go fast with a turbo are two fairly incompatible ideas if you want to keep your car on the road. No matter what platform you start with, it costs money to tune a turbo for power, and keep it alive. There are so many things that can go wrong.

Realize that whatever car you end up with, it's going to cost you money to do it right. Make sure that you research the limitations of the platform you're dealing with, and plan to overcome them. Otherwise you might end up with a mad tyte, 14psi DSM sitting on the side of the road with serious mechanical problems. But hey, at least you will have only spent ~$5000 for the experience.

[Twintip_yeti]

I would say stick with the s14. I cant find a single s13 around here for sale then again i live in NH. also 7k for a ka24det?? look at what your goals are then chose what you want.

yeti

[Sliding_S14]

Friend was in the same boat. He was going to sell his 95 s14 5spd for a 95 GST with a first gen block (crank walk) GST's heavily modded and motor was just rebuilt with mostly performance internals.

Friend chose to stick with his S14 (for now)

[Repo Man]

I'd stick with the s14 personally. I really like DSM's, but I see them as a money pit, which is probably what my current 240 is going to be. Their trannies suck complete a$$ and I hate the way they shift. The 4g63 is a hell of an engine though.

[SienSil80]

Me just coming from a mitsubishi to a nissan starting today, I can tell you, stick with the S14. If you like fixing your car every few days then the dsm is for you. Heck I have a 3000 and I'm on my 3rd engine and owned the car for 2 years and rarely raced it, dsm = lose.

[diamondstar36]

DSMs blow up because people are stupid with them. They buy them cheap and show no respect. Then complain about how unreliable they are afterwords. TUNE your DSM correctly, and it'll hold up to as much abuse as you can throw at it. Just like a Nissan. The 4G63 is one of the stoutest motors around and can support over 500whp on the stock bottom end. Just remember that no decade old car/motor is going to be without problems. No matter what.

A lot of people think I got into Nissans because I had problems with my DSMs (which I did, and I was the cause of them). Honestly that wasn't the case. I got into Nissans because I wanted to do something besides race in a straight line, which is where DSMs are king. They are decent cars, and when properly taken care of they will run for as long as you want. Just don't do a 6 grand clutch dump and cry when the transmission explodes.

[SienSil80]

My vr4 didn't blow (for the second time) cause I was absuing it, hell i babied that car and never shifted over 4k rpm. that car broke the 2nd time cause the factory gave it lousy oil circulation and the rod bearing in piston 4 shattered. Don't get me wrong I love my vr4 to death and am in the process of putting yet another motor. It's just that I could always drive either my rx-7 or my friend's 240 harder then I ever could my mitsubishi. mitsubishi is great and all but there is no escaping the fact that they aren't reliable. even the other mitsubishi guys on 3si.org always joke around about how lame the reliability is on them.

[Shnitz]

diamondstar36, those are the truest words so far. and siensil80, a 3000gt isn't a dsm, and for that matter, it wasn't that great of a car, there is a reason that the "little brother" eclipse/talon/laser is a more popular platform, one of the main ones being it has arguably mitsubishi's best engine in it, the 4g63t, which has been RELIABLY in the evolution for many many years. what diamondstar said is true, many people say, oh, a dsm is cheap and then they don't maintain it. dsm's are definitely very fast for the money that you put into them, realize that many of them are running 20+ psi boost regularly on their vehicles, like my dad, who hasn't had one problem with his car, even though it is heavily modified.

[SienSil80]

I'm talking about mitsubishis in general not just 3000s, my experience with them and my friend's dsms here in sac is that they're always broken. I don't remember the last time all of our cars were working at the same time. I'm not saying dsms suck, they're great cars that have amazing potential for big power, I'm just saying the reliability is not like a nissan's.