drug testing people on welfare rant.....

[SullivanRacing06]

id like to get nicos thoughts on what a florida politician is proposing

drug testing people on welfare, if the test comes back neg they get there check, if not... bye bye free money..

WHY THE HELL HAS THIS NOT BEEN IN THE SYSTEM ALREADY.

if your on state probation your p.o. watches you pull out your you know what and watches you pee into a cup, if you get caught cheating you go to jail dont collect 200.00

how about they apply this same system to getting your free money??? you have some one watch you piss into a cup, if you fail you loose your rights to the welfare option, if you try to cheat go to jail....

sorry about the randomness of this but i freaking love this idea

now his way of doing the drug tests are diff, they prob wount have someone watch you (which is dumb because its easy to cheat on a test if theres no one watching you) and the jail thing is my idea...... the government has been sending you free money and it could be considered stealing from the gov



opinions????????????

[D1SR240]

I don't agree with the jail idea. Our jails are already way overcrowded because people get incarcerated for minor non-violent offenses. This would just make the overcrowding problem a lot worse. Also, if you throw them in jail the government still has a cost related to the prisons. So, even though they wouldn't get their welfare check the government would still be spending money on those people.

[Loki]

I don't think he's saying to throw the people in jail, he's just saying that failing a mandatory random drug test means you're off welfare.

I agree the s*** out of this. I think its disgusting that the system is not already set up like this. As it stands, a good number of people have a decent, albeit under the table, income but they shoot the cash up their veins and use food stamps for their groceries. It's a terrible system.

[Dattebayo]

if your on state probation your p.o. watches you pull out your you know what and watches you pee into a cup, if you get caught cheating you go to jail dont collect 200.00

What's your point? In most states that I know of, probies have to pay for the drug test. Are you? Didn't think so.

how about they apply this same system to getting your free money??? you have some one watch you piss into a cup, if you fail you loose your rights to the welfare option, if you try to cheat go to jail....

Don't quit your day job pal. The assumptions made here by you are disgusting!

So everyone is supposed to dismiss their rights not to incriminate themselves because of what again? Pfft. At least probies have to pee in a cup because they already broke the law. Collecting money from a govt. program is NOT breaking the law, jackas$...

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Clearly, your employer doesn't test for whatever DuPont product you huffed to produce that brain-addled post.

[Mr1der]

I find 3M gives me a better high.

[SullivanRacing06]

when you get assigned your probation you have to pay for drug tests the state dose not pay for them....

ok then dont throw them in jail flag them so they can never get welfare or any other government prograsm

sorry i dont huff anything

[SullivanRacing06]

if your on state probation your p.o. watches you pull out your you know what and watches you pee into a cup, if you get caught cheating you go to jail dont collect 200.00

What's your point? In most states that I know of, probies have to pay for the drug test. Are you? Didn't think so.

how about they apply this same system to getting your free money??? you have some one watch you piss into a cup, if you fail you loose your rights to the welfare option, if you try to cheat go to jail....

Don't quit your day job pal. The assumptions made here by you are disgusting!

So everyone is supposed to dismiss their rights not to incriminate themselves because of what again? Pfft. At least probies have to pee in a cup because they already broke the law. Collecting money from a govt. program is NOT breaking the law, jackas$...

and being lazy and cheating the govt out of money when you can be working and making your own money just makes you a larger jackass then i am for posting this

[Dattebayo]

and being lazy and cheating the govt out of money when you can be working and making your own money just makes you a larger jackass then i am for posting this

You are an idiot.

Do you think that every person is on welfare because they are lazy? haha, man, you're a classic ignorant fool!

You have no idea what's involved in getting into that program.

[Loki]

You have no idea what's involved in getting into that program.

Being drug-free is not involved in getting into Welfare either, and that's kinda the problem.

[Dattebayo]

You have no idea what's involved in getting into that program.

Being drug-free is not involved in getting into Welfare either, and that's kinda the problem.

They don't require it for unemployment either. Or maybe you were thinking that's just what welfare is?

[Watermelonwarrior]

They don't require it for unemployment either. Or maybe you were thinking that's just what welfare is?

whats your deal? It makes sense. If the govt is paying for your bills you shouldn't be doing drugs... I dont see whats soooo wrong with that?

[alms24sebring]

Do you think that every person is on welfare because they are lazy? haha, man, you're a classic ignorant fool!

Not every person no but, there are definantly a number of people that see it as free money without working. On the other hand, thats why I think they require 2 apps per week.

I think that people should be denied a $$ for that week or 2 weeks whatever, if they fail the pisstest. I think they should pay for the test but be reimbursed if they pass in the welfare check. If they fail, they lose the test money and the check for that week until next time. Jailtime should not be a factor as stated above. They are already overcrowded.

Problems w this idea:
- Cocaine, pills, mushrooms, etc only stay in piss for a couple days
- weed stays in your piss for a month or more depending on how frequent they smoke. (This is stupid because its the most bs drug but stays around for the longest period of time)
- Thats alot of piss to confirm. There WILL be mixups and contraversy.
- Should the gov't pay a week behind from initial pisstest?
- They make drinks that cover piss for short periods of time, but its $50 (and saved my life bc it works)
- what if a person is out of town for whatever reason, what happens to a welfare check?
... Im sure there is more

As far as the idea, I kindof agree with it. Ithink there should be some sort of regulation to make sure that families can eat without the parents spending all the $$ on drugs for themselves. The problem is that it's a big commitment for the gov't and millions of dollars more.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Good thing your PO never tested your spelling, OP.

[Dattebayo]

I fail to see an actual benefit from drug testing people who are in govt. money programs. How about all you college undergrads, hmm? How would you like it if the govt. started checking your piss to collect your Pell grant? Or how about for your unsubsidized loan? That's almost like free money.

Oh, I got it- We should test piss for everyone who wants to get their refund back from taxes, too. Yeah, that's the stuff! And lets not stop there, lets also have them piss test anyone who invests in govt. bonds too!

YOU MAKE MATTHEW LESKO CRY!

[dre1507]

i don't do drugs or any of that mess, so go ahead and test me for Pell grant money. i'd probably be able to get more when Jimmy who gets straight A's is caught with drugs in his system. Yaaaayyyyy.
i like this idea, but as previously stated there are a lot of things to look into and take into consideration that will easily discourage the government from considering it as a viable solution.

[Dattebayo]

i don't do drugs or any of that mess, so go ahead and test me for Pell grant money.

Really, how about once a week?

What is with all these idiots wanting more govt. regulation? Get stuffed.

[dre1507]

Lol. i wants more of dat free money. GImme more. Why? i'm not on drugs, i'm doing ok in school, and umm, couldn't be ever considered a menace to American society. so why not gimme more? my first pee test i was a little shy, but now, i don't care.

[AppleBonker]

TBH, I don't care if people on welfare are doing drugs. I don't care if anyone posting on these formus is doing drugs. It's not my business and it doesn't affect me. I'm all for decriminalizing them and treating them more like alcohol. If it starts to affect your work, you should be fired. If you run into other trouble with the law, you should be dealt with accordingly. Welfare isn't that much money. If you want to squander it on drugs and alcohol rather than food or clothes, have at it...

[nissangirl74]

I personally think everyone who is receiving a handout should have to earn it. If a teenager has to pass a drug test to bag groceries at the supermarket, then grown people should have to pass a drug test in order to get free money. You aren't f*** special. This includes everyone on welfare, WIC, food stamps, disability, student loans, and subsidized housing.

[AppleBonker]

But alcohol is ok? And why is that? Because some dudes in suits somewhere made it a law (for reasons most likely not related to health concerns)?

[SullivanRacing06]

and being lazy and cheating the govt out of money when you can be working and making your own money just makes you a larger jackass then i am for posting this

You are an idiot.

Do you think that every person is on welfare because they are lazy? haha, man, you're a classic ignorant fool!

You have no idea what's involved in getting into that program.

ignorant fool? if your getting a check from the govt why not have to take a drug test for it?


im sure there are allot of people who need welfare because they cant work

then there are people who keep popping out babies to get a larger check... but hey who am i to judge, i pay taxes and have a legal legit job.......

if you want a check that comes every month from the govt which you never have to pay back why not have to take a test to prove your not feeding your habit with that money?

i could care less about spelling, im never going to meet any one on this forum..

[dre1507]

exactly bex. for me to get decent Pell money, my grades have to be good. i've noticed when my gpa drops so does the Pell money. it's not the same as staying off drugs, but i have to work hard for the grant money. I need money to supplement schooling, you need money to supplement living. it's all free government money, so if i have to work hard for mine, why shouldn't you?

[SullivanRacing06]

I personally think everyone who is receiving a handout should have to earn it. If a teenager has to pass a drug test to bag groceries at the supermarket, then grown people should have to pass a drug test in order to get free money. You aren't f**king special. This includes everyone on welfare, WIC, food stamps, disability, student loans, and subsidized housing.

there ya go

[SullivanRacing06]

i don't do drugs or any of that mess, so go ahead and test me for Pell grant money.

Really, how about once a week?

What is with all these idiots wanting more govt. regulation? Get stuffed.

to get free money you should have to take a f*** piss test!!!

how is that to much to ask?

more govt? should not of voted obama in!

[AppleBonker]

to get free money you should have to take a f*** piss test!!!

It's a good thing this country doesn't (generally) enact policies based on what one individual thinks. There are some people out there with crazy beliefs.

[SullivanRacing06]

to get free money you should have to take a f*** piss test!!!

It's a good thing this country doesn't (generally) enact policies based on what one individual thinks. There are some people out there with crazy beliefs.

yea i am sure there are to many crazy republicans out there that would rather see their tax money go to "low income areas" to help them feed their drug habits.....

id rather see the money i pay into taxes not go into a drug dealers pocket so he can buy some new "dubs" for his car sorry.....

[AppleBonker]

Pretty sure no one wants to see their money end up in anyone's pocket, drug dealer or not. There are many things out there I don't agree with. But why should it be my place to restrict others from them?

[nissangirl74]

But alcohol is ok? And why is that? Because some dudes in suits somewhere made it a law (for reasons most likely not related to health concerns)?

I assumed that the piss test would test for alcohol too. Most of them do unless they are very specific. They also test for things people can take to pass a drug test.

[SullivanRacing06]

alcohol is a legal substance if your under 21 then sorry no free money, i see way to many people in gainesville bragging about the "free" money their getting. spending their food stamps on beer from shady gas stations instead of providing for their family or their health , instead their buying something to get buzzed or high off of?