drove the s14 sr20de on public roads for the first time, my impression...

[Onizuka]

This winter I put a S14 sr20de into my 89 s13 hatch I got for $200 (going for a low cost project). I gotta say, I'm very happy with the results. I've done a turbo SR swap before into my coupe, and this N/A swap was easy in comparison, only a minuscule step above swapping in another stock KA24. Pretty much everything bolted up, including the exhaust. The only thing that needed a little rigging was the intake pipe, which was as simple as a $15 trip to the hardware store. I had wiring specialties do the harness because im lazy, and it was the right choice. I only payed around $950 for the motor, which enabled me to swap to a 5speed and shave 100 pounds off the weight of the car, so it was a great value (original motor in the car was a blown headgasket single cam KA).

Now the driving experience is great in my opinion. I was confined to a parking lot until I finished wiring my tail lights today, so I was finally able to beat on it real good. I knew it wasnt going to have gobs of power ahead of time, and in any case, I am going for fun, if not fast. The s14 sr20de is rated at 165hp and it accelerates like it. Now, the good part about the SR is how it revs. It has a 7500rpm redline, and there is no struggle to get there. Throttle response is also good. Its all stock so its not race-care like, but its definitely better than expected and is very drivable too.

All in all, I would recommend this to someone looking for a cheap project. If you have a working dual cam KA24 with a 5 speed, you're not going to get much more than tooling experience, a bump in gas mileage and a slightly different driving feel. Most of the benefits will probably come from the 100 pound weight savings, which is quite a significant reduction.

And since everyone always asks in these kind of thread, here are some pics (which I already posted in gen chat several days ago):

I installed a kouki gauge cluster instead of switching over speed and temp sensors back to s13 units
Modified by Onizuka at 12:02 AM 5/1/2009

[1990-240sxsr20det]

good find you got there

[hbpignosePA]

this is the route im doing, but i plan to do some headwork to get some extra power outta it first

looks fresh man, you gonna go to carlise nicofest?

[Onizuka]

I'm signed up and ready to go You?

This motor responds pretty good to N/A mods supposedly, 200hp is doable with remaining streetable.
Modified by Onizuka at 12:38 AM 5/1/2009

[hbpignosePA]

sweet ill probably see you there then, everyone around me is trying to talk me outta it but im set on doing this swap

[Onizuka]

Too bad you aren't a bit closer, I could totally help you out on your swap otherwise. But judging by your build thread you wont need it, this swap is easier than doing all the subframe stuff you're doing, and your car is already manual.

[xX RB Xx]

thats pretty good man.. i like it.

[hbpignosePA]

haha yea im having trouble finding a motor im gonna look harder closer to when im ready to buy; the closest place in philly (eliteJDM) wanted ALOT for a non-turbo; if money permits i might try and get the s15 version and just use a 5 spd from a s14 idk yet

[j-z]

pretty cool and different actually. i like it. it would be good for a road race setup. im assuming it has the variable valve timing on it?? also, what is the compression ratio for these motors?

[Baby Zilla S14]

looks good man nice work... does anyone know if because nissan makes the sr20de in the US ( i think in the sentra )does that make it legal in cali... i think all they have to beable to do is look the engine code up right???if the KA24de make 155 and sr20de makes 200 when my ka starts to go i wanna get one

[Onizuka]

haha yea im having trouble finding a motor im gonna look harder closer to when im ready to buy; the closest place in philly (eliteJDM) wanted ALOT for a non-turbo; if money permits i might try and get the s15 version and just use a 5 spd from a s14 idk yet

You might want to try JDM engine depot and JDM engine zone, both in the Newark NJ area. I found a s14 motor at both of those locations for under $1000. S15 nonturbo motor isnt worth the extra cost, its the exact same motor (same components, same horsepower). Unless you manage to find an Autech one, they make 200hp off the bat but cost around $5000, when I've seen them.

pretty cool and different actually. i like it. it would be good for a road race setup. im assuming it has the variable valve timing on it?? also, what is the compression ratio for these motors?

Yep, I have working VVT. The VVT, 10:1 compression and the longer intake runners is what mainly gives this motor the 25hp boost over the s13 version. Still uses crappy 87 octane gas which is great.

looks good man nice work... does anyone know if because nissan makes the sr20de in the US ( i think in the sentra )does that make it legal in cali... i think all they have to beable to do is look the engine code up right???if the KA24de make 155 and sr20de makes 200 when my ka starts to go i wanna get one

It doesnt matter, this version of the motor is technically still not legal for road use. However, it will pass emissions and looks like a completely stock motor that belongs there. So unless the mech that inspects your car has intimate knowlege of 240's I doubt you'll have any problems.

[hilux30]

nice write-up, beautiful car. Let me get this strait, the RWD SR20DE is rated at 165 HP, where the first gen. Sentra SE-R's are rated at 139HP? you sure about that? aren't they the same engine? you must have variable valve timing right?

I wonder what this engine would be like with 11.5:1 comproession, hot cams and valve springs, balanced crank, and some seperate volacity stacks and butterfly planums would do???

[hbpignosePA]

the engine is the same block and internals but has vvt; along with the power loss most fwd vehicles have, it explains the difference

thanks ill check those out im down for a roadtrip to pick one up

[Onizuka]

Yes, I am 100% positive the s14 sr20de is rated at 165hp. The S14 motor does have a higher compression ratio of 10:1 vs 9.5:1 for the s13/b13 versions. The SR platform had tons of different versions. SR16VE came in either 175 or 200hp variations, and that was only a 1.6 liter. The s13/b13 sr20's were technologically pretty basic in comparison to later versions.

[davidinla_s14.5]

Im looking to do an sr20de in my s14 but I am having troubles finding the right resources. Id cant figure out where I can purchase the engine/trans. Also do you remeber what is needed such as a list os parts besides the obvious(engine/transmission/ecu/wriing harness)...

Thanks man I wanna get the ball rolling

[E7-S14]

eh i had an sr20de in my s14.it dyno'd at 130whp and 110 torque

then turbo'd it and blew it up.(well broke a ringland)

(note distributor and spark plugs)

took it to 2 drift events.

with the absence of low end torque i had to make it up with high rpm revvingfun lil motor.. reliable as crap.

[Lonismos14]

You can find the motor in a 90-98 nissan 200sx you can find one for like 500 dollars,i have had both motors imo the ka is stronger it is noticeable. The only reason i would do a sr swap is for the turbo, if not your losing power, but the op is right it is easy to make the motor 200whp. And that was in a fwd 98 200sx. Basicaly u just got to take the head off and stroke that b****..... MAD PROPS FOR BEING DIFFERENT. A matter of fact i think the junkyard still might have my car and motor there i can call and see and ship you the head, just pay for the shipping....

[hbpignosePA]

no

US spec sr20de's are FWD

it will not work

nice try to sound like you know what your talking about tho

[Chris28]

no

US spec sr20de's are FWD

it will not work

nice try to sound like you know what your talking about tho

LOL but it's ok...it's Lonismo. He's had 3 240's. He has excellent taste.

[Lonismos14]

Yup sure did no s*** smart a** did you read it said fwd 200sx Dont get mad cause both of you were bendin ova for koshin :moon Gosh HEY FAG BOYS learn to read. Im sure he will give both of you a ride you kno what you gotta do first. f*****S. SORRY OP HAD TO CHECK THESE b****ES WHERE MY MONEY...

[E7-S14]

Yup sure did no s*** smart a** did you read it said fwd 200sx Dont get mad cause both of you were bendin ova for koshin :moon Gosh HEY FAG BOYS learn to read. Im sure he will give both of you a ride you kno what you gotta do first. f*****S. SORRY OP HAD TO CHECK THESE b****ES WHERE MY MONEY...

[hbpignosePA]

who pissed in your cereal?

you said you can find "the motor" in the fwd 200sx

first off they only were badged as the 200sx in 95 to 98;

second "the motor" from these cars (used in the b chassis) is not going to work in any s chassis car

so

stop getting butthurt over everything