Drove in the snow for the first time..Wow this thing is a tank !!

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Yesterday the temp was below 20* and we got about 6 inches of snow. My commute home is about 44 miles and the roads were horrible. My G drove through it like nothing. I LOVE this car !!!


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And I've driven my coupe without AWD in 6" of snow (and a lot more). Be careful of what you wish for.

If you start believing this car to be a tank in the snow, you're asking for trouble. I don't want to see a wrecked G nor an injured member.

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Well it fells like a tank for sure. So good traction. I do love the RWD biased AWD system. It lets you slide a little and corrects it.

You guys have more snow than we have here.


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zozoka1212 wrote:You guys have more snow than we have here.
Well, it was about time!!!! I think I had TOO much fun cause when I topped off the X it got less than 13 MPG!

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hahahahahahah

Rich now you know why some of the X owners got so bad mpg. LOL

You can get good mpg when your tires getting worn. You'll stop pushing it that hard. LOL


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I love snow but not in this...

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I remember when my friend got his Sebring convertible, we kept the top down till the end of Oct! The one night I had a winter coat on and we still put the top down. Man I miss that thing. We never had it down in the snow though, although I can only assume falling snow would be a lot worse than falling leaves.

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smockers83 wrote:I don't want to see ... an injured member.
dude, why are you so interested in his shlong....?

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jmcohen23 wrote:
dude, why are you so interested in his shlong....?
Because I knew you were gay and would get a chub out of that one.

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I have to say, I definitely took it for granted that it would do just fine in the snow.

I had mine out during a storm we had here last Thurs., and it got a little squirrely around an on-ramp. I am sure it was the original tires, as the car has almost 13K miles on it....anyway.I came up on the on-ramp at maybe 25-30 mph, and then the back end kicked out (HARD!!), I was able to keep it from meeting the guardrail or another car...but I almost had to change my boxers! I love this thing in the snow for the most part, but I am changing the tires over to snows in my 'old a**' civic...only so I don't hurt my G in the snowy stuff. I'd much rather have the 'house tank' (Expedition), but the wife gets that when the roads gets slippery. I have been apologizing to my G all weekend, and gave her a good washing today to try and make it up to her. She has accepted my apology, and we have officially made up to one another.

Be safe all!!

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My saying she's like a little "tank" meant that if you take it slow she'll go wherever you take her, not that I was zipping past all of the SUV's that were flipped over on their roofs because their balls got a little bigger than their brains. It was my first time driving her in the snow, on roads that were barely treated. Coming from an SUV, I have to say that she did a great job ! Trust me, I have no intentions of wrecking my car or getting hurt for anybody, to be a show off.

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The first winter I had my old Audi A6 2.7T (bought in January) I drove it with the stock all-season tires. It was good in poor weather but the limits were there and the car would break free if pushed too hard. I remember the first time I was on a clover leaf that was starting to ice over going too fast and felt the car move sideways in a weird sort of shuffle towards the guard rail. The next winter I bought Michelin Pilot Alpin (winter) tires and the limits had move well up.

My sense is that if you live in an area where you are going to be driving in snow - buy the winter tires to save yourself grief later on. The nice thing about winter tires is that you can also have summer tires the rest of the year as opposed to all-seasons year long. Right now my g37s vert lives in the garage when the weather is bad - next year I'll get a second set of rims with blizzaks for the winter (no tpms for winter rims to save $$).

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I don't want to start a war. Just to clear couple of things. Winter tires are awesome in snow. Nothing can compare to it. How about winter tire in rain or winter tire on cold dry road?

Unfortunately there is no such a thing as a perfect tires for all weather. Another unfortunate thing is the weather does not cooperate with you. Sometimes you drive in all winter and you see snow few times. Like this season. In this season the winter tires would be performing worse than all season every day.

How many snowing days you have vs. how many no snowing days.

Here is a link. Good reading. Take a look at the braking distance on dry cold road and rainy cold road. Unfortunately the snow tire doesn't do well. On the 60-0 test the all season stopped 30 feet shorter than the winter tire. Now question yourself. If the weather is bad snowing outheer. Are you going to speed or when the road dry? To me the answer is snow I slow down and dry road well go faster. http://www.caranddriver.com/fe...age_2

I also not really a big fan of the idea of snow and summer tire switch. You'll either end up sing your summer tires when you shouldn't at freezing temp. or you'll use your winter tires in the warm weather. When you shouldn't.

Just my .02 well it is actually .018 since canadian $ worth less.

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zozoka1212 wrote:I don't want to start a war. Just to clear couple of things. Winter tires are awesome in snow. Nothing can compare to it. How about winter tire in rain or winter tire on cold dry road?

Unfortunately there is no such a thing as a perfect tires for all weather. Another unfortunate thing is the weather does not cooperate with you. Sometimes you drive in all winter and you see snow few times. Like this season. In this season the winter tires would be performing worse than all season every day.

How many snowing days you have vs. how many no snowing days.

Here is a link. Good reading. Take a look at the braking distance on dry cold road and rainy cold road. Unfortunately the snow tire doesn't do well. On the 60-0 test the all season stopped 30 feet shorter than the winter tire. Now question yourself. If the weather is bad snowing outheer. Are you going to speed or when the road dry? To me the answer is snow I slow down and dry road well go faster. http://www.caranddriver.com/fe...age_2

I also not really a big fan of the idea of snow and summer tire switch. You'll either end up sing your summer tires when you shouldn't at freezing temp. or you'll use your winter tires in the warm weather. When you shouldn't.

Just my .02 well it is actually .018 since canadian $ worth less.
There is a distinction between winter tires and snow tires. Pilot Alpins are actually pretty crappy in deep snow but are good on cold surfaces, plowed streets with some coating, light snow - the sort of stuff that I've got all winter in upstate NY. You can get winter tires with H+ speed ratings. Snow tires tend to be nobblier, noisier, better in deep snow but not that great on pavement.

http://www.wheels.ca/Tire%20Talk/article/177172

"Of course all this research and technology has improved snow tires, too. So with a snow tire, you still get chunky tread, a bit less stability on the highway and more noise, but you do get snow traction.

With a winter tire, you get quieter ride, very little squirm, less noise than some all-season tires, good pavement ride and grip, long wear characteristics, and – last but not least – good ice and snow traction.

Practical examples from real life: in the Bridgestone Firestone family, the Bridgestone Blizzak is the winter tire, the Firestone Winter Force is the snowtire; in the Michelin/BFG/Uniroyal family, the Michelin X-Ice is the winter tire, and the BFGoodrich Winter Slalom is a snowtire; in the Pirelli world, the Snowsport is a winter tire and the Winter Carving is a snow tire."

My experience was very positive with winter tires over the cooper all-seasons my Audi came with. I've had snows in the past and didn't care for them - maybe if I lived up near lake placid or in Vermont. I also like summer performance tires so I've got to swap out - that meant for me winter tires. On our family BMW X3, we've got all-seasons that stay on year round - they are pretty good.

Peter


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Ladies & Gentlemen - There is a new tire in the game made by Continental called the Extreme Contact DWS. I recently put a set on my 2008 Volvo XC90 V8 and they seem to be the perfect tire. Quite when its dry, great in the rain and very capable in light snow. It is not the ultimate tire in any specific category but serves all seasons in NJ where we get a bit of everything...

Here is link the the tirerack website for details --> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...t+DWS

Interesting huh?

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my tires in my signiture are the best with my G35x!!!!!!

i got to drive in some atlanta black ice recently and my Toyos combined with my AWD was a great ride... Im coming from driving my jeep in bad weather... i was amazed how good the G35x with my toyos stood up to the wet/icy slush we got some weeks ago...

which caused a 29 car pile up by the way... (i know i know we don't get ice all the time so people crash in ga when there is bad weather, thus ICE means no school down here)

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Just wanted to make sure people aware of the winter tires bad side.

To me the best all season tires are Nokian. Nothing comes close to it. If you ever tried one you know what I mean. Also in few test they were performing as good as most winter tires.


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G37X_LEO wrote: My saying she's like a little "tank" meant that if you take it slow she'll go wherever you take her, not that I was zipping past all of the SUV's that were flipped over on their roofs because their balls got a little bigger than their brains.


Good deal. I wasn't saying you did, I just wanted to make sure you gave yourself a reality check.

You can pass SUVs if you want to. I do all the time, but I grew up learning how to drive in the snow and people where I live now don't know how. Most in the office thinks I just drive too fast, but I say nay.

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G37X_LEO wrote: My saying she's like a little "tank" meant that if you take it slow she'll go wherever you take her, not that I was zipping past all of the SUV's that were flipped over on their roofs because their balls got a little bigger than their brains. It was my first time driving her in the snow, on roads that were barely treated. Coming from an SUV, I have to say that she did a great job ! Trust me, I have no intentions of wrecking my car or getting hurt for anybody, to be a show off.
I knew what you meant cause I was out all weekend driving the X in the snow/ice with a grin on my face! Starting on ice on a hill, it just went so ez!I have owned 4x4's and the X seems to do better in the snow and ice. No low range, so I can't strap a fishing rod holder to the front and take it down the beach chasing fish!!

Zozo, I agree with you. I want a tire that is a good all around performer. I'll sacrafice the ultra high performance for a tire that is rated in snow. Also, doesn't snow down here enough to justify a second set.

Might even consider getting something that is at least rated for snow on the coupe.....not sure yet, the S-Drive's were crap in the snow!!! But, then again, it's a good excuse to work from home when it snows!!

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sure was great being able to cruise past folks today.

there is this mountainous mountain that drive up each morning to get to the beltway. it's 4 lanes (2 lanes on each side), and only the inner lanes were somewhat cleared. When I somewhat, I mean that the only hint of pavement can be seen from previous tire tracks. As soon as I got on the road, I engaged the snow button and noticed that there were 2 cars in front of me (both FWD), and they were going sooooooooooooo slow (like 15 MPH). So I just moved over to the right and cruised right past them, uphill, going at least 30 MPH on at least 2-3" of snow. No problems whatsoever. I'm sure they were thinking, "What is this nut-job doing?". But they probably don't realize that I've got the power of AWD (if needed).


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