Drifting ???'s

[RPS13 Rocket]

Where is a site that shows all the top drifters in Japan, i.e. Signal sileighty, top secret drifters etc.

I also want to see what they have for a set-up I mean the specifics. Anybody got anything like that?? I want to build my s13 into a great street drifter bt be able to drive it daily if needed!

[nametakennow]

Oh jeez... have you been reading Super Street? You sound like every other newb for the past 2 months (not that I'm a veteran or anything). Beware, explain yourself now, or don't wonder why you get flamed.

[blink0r]

Wow! Another person who wants to drift!

F*CK YOU MAGAZINES! YOU RUINED OUR 240sx!

[nametakennow]

As I was saying...

[90240sx]

Wow! Another person who wants to drift!

F*CK YOU MAGAZINES! YOU RUINED OUR 240sx!

agreed, and if they put h0m0 stickers on our 240's in FF2, all our respect is going down the shiitter.

[RPS13 Rocket]

Whoa slow down...I have experience in Drag set-ups in fact I am involved with a shop that is building a low 9sec Supra. My buddy has a built Galant VR-4, he wants a SC300 to drift with. I want to show him how a s13 will be far more superior in drifting then his heavy azz toyota!! This is why I need to know what the most utilized set-up is. Mainly suspension, camber degree settings, wheel size and tire size. I already know how I am building the engine and transmission so that is not of any of my concern.

I chose to go this route instead of the traditional drag set-ups to advance my driving abilities, hence utilize them more!!!

Any help is appreciated and I have ENJOYED watching Option2 Drift movies for many years, just never thought about building one until now.

BTW this isn't the first car I have built so :pface

[nametakennow]

Hmmm... So you haven't just been looking at Super Street and saying, "Hey, cool, 240SX. I'll become a drifter!" Wow... I'm amazed.

[UncleBen]

super street isn't that bad i don't think. its import tuner, and sport compact car (isn't THAT bad either). if i was a newbie and saw that stuff, i'd say screw driftin i want the sr20. but this is one of the few times someone wants to kno sumthing about the 240 other than "i want an sr20!!!"

[SpeeDDrifT]

Wow i never realized how many people on this board thought drifting "ruined our 240sx". I've been drifting 240s for some time now and hell i look around and think that the drag racers are wasting a perfect drift car........but i don't tell people "oh you saw a 240 in import tuner and now your taking a drift car and making it all show or drag". REMEMBER THIS: what came first for the 240's Drifting or Drag Racing?

IMO the 240 is a "drift car", and the japanese seem to agree, and have been drifting the **** out of S13, S14, and S15's way before people hear started to jump on the bandwagon and drag race them. I swear some of you people need to buy a honda or a domestic.

always so damn critical and at the same time contradicting yourselves.

anyways RPS13 rocket, the SC300 is actually a good drift car, ofcourse the one they drift in japan is called Soarer and comes with a supra motor. i wouldn't really feel right saying a RPS13 or S14 is better. i can't think of any websites with top drifters on it. but you'd want to check out OPTION VIDEO and Drift Tengoku. OPTION 101 would be a good video to purchase. http://www.ipnindustries.com sells it for like $25.

AND PLEASE if your going to drift, Exercise EXTREME Saftey. Drifting take lots of practice and lots of repairs, it's not for everyone.

[90240sx]

90240sx sublimated..."]h0m0 stickers

That's two h0m0 references in one day. Is there something you're trying to tell us?

Just checking to see if anyone was paying any attention.

NOOOO, i'm not a h0m0.you honestly wouldn't consider a fellow 240 driver a h0m0, would you?

[Mayhem_J30]

people in japan do funny things

[SpeeDDrifT]

LOL mayhem, yeah and they are watching jerry springer thinking the same thing about us....hahah.

[APEXi240]

Its all about the Japanese rock star haircuts.

I'd say an S13/14 is better to drift with just becuase here it will be cheaper to fix/maintain/upgrade. Plus for beginning wouldn't it be better to have a smaller car? (I wouldn't really know)

[RPS13 Rocket]

Thanks for the replies but nobody has been able to tell me how to set-up a drift car. If I am going to learn I want to do it right and have the car set-up to work for me not against me. I have been racing for many years and in every different type of racing the cars are set-up totally different. i.e. A drag car and a SCCA car are going to have different suspension setting, camber settings, tire compounds etc. This is what I am looking for, I know how I am going to build the engine (sr20det) considering I am really good friends with the owner of Defcon Motorsports in OH they will help me with the build. I am just trying to get the info now instead of later. It will help me to budget for this car!

http://www.defconmotorsports.com

[Get240DiZzY]

[quote=" 90240sx NOOOO, i'm not a h0m0.you honestly wouldn't consider a fellow 240 driver a h0m0, would you? [/quote]

4 words: What Can We Outhandle?

[SaruDorifto]

ahhhhhhh the age old Q has come up 0 to yon or dorifto? lol many people have there3 cars in a drift set up for many reasons its fun its illegal (my fav thing hehehe) its addictive and it takes skill!!! im not sayin there isnt skill in drag racin butt come on its not as fun as drifting hey man if u wanan know soem drift stuff just research it on the internet basicly its soft in the front and stiff in the rear hard tires in the back and soft in the front lol its a lil deeper than that butt u also just learn some heal toe and shift lock tecs and e brake im not telllin u how its done im just givin u some tips ight and dont hate on the mags they are good and good is fine lol peace out side!!!!! and im still not using periods!!!

[nametakennow]

I would think that anything that would make the *** slide out would be good.

[Ryan of Velocity]

Thanks for the replies but nobody has been able to tell me how to set-up a drift car. If I am going to learn I want to do it right and have the car set-up to work for me not against me. I have been racing for many years and in every different type of racing the cars are set-up totally different. i.e. A drag car and a SCCA car are going to have different suspension setting, camber settings, tire compounds etc. This is what I am looking for, I know how I am going to build the engine (sr20det) considering I am really good friends with the owner of Defcon Motorsports in OH they will help me with the build. I am just trying to get the info now instead of later. It will help me to budget for this car!

http://www.defconmotorsports.com

Hmmm, so you are in Indy too. If you need any advice on drift setups, etc.. Feel free to ask me. I spent many a year in Japan where I drifted before anyone in the states knew what the hell it was. lol.

Hey did Defcon build a Stealth TT with a '99 front conversion and a very hooked up motor? I think it was them. Anyways I work for Santeca out of here in Indy, we just built an insane 240 w/SR20DET and upgraded everything. The only thing left stock was the frame. We are starting on an RB25 conversion into an S14 here after SEMA.

[issanni]

Thanks for the replies but nobody has been able to tell me how to set-up a drift car. If I am going to learn I want to do it right and have the car set-up to work for me not against me. I have been racing for many years and in every different type of racing the cars are set-up totally different. i.e. A drag car and a SCCA car are going to have different suspension setting, camber settings, tire compounds etc. This is what I am looking for, I know how I am going to build the engine (sr20det) considering I am really good friends with the owner of Defcon Motorsports in OH they will help me with the build. I am just trying to get the info now instead of later. It will help me to budget for this car!

http://www.defconmotorsports.com

Here is a parts list for the Signal 180SX:SR20DET(TUNED BY SIGNAL)TRUST TD-06-L2 TURBOTURGERTRUST TYPE R WASTEGATEAPEX POWER FC,550CC INJECTORESTRUST INTERCOOLERBLITZ FUEL PUMPEXEDY SUPER SINGLE CLUCH KITTANABE EXHUAST,GREDDY BLOW OFF VALVECUSCO LSD

TEIN HE COILOVERS ALL AROUNDDO-LUCK FRONT AND REAR LOWER TIE-BARSCUSCO A-ARMS

VOLK RACING GTN WHEELSTOYO TIRES

PROJECT MU HC TITANIUM PADS

S15 SILVIA FRONT END CONVERSIONINCLUDING HOODFRONT FENDERSHEADLIGHTSCUSTOM MAZIORA GALAXY ll PAINTTARGET AERO KITSIGNAL GT-WINGSIGNAL GT-MIRROR

BRIDE MAXIS SEATSGUTTED TRUNKGNARLY CUSTOM ROLLCAGE

As for camber, damping, etc., I would imagine those settings would change depending on the track, road conditions, etc. So I don't think you'd be able to find a definitive answer on that part. Something like that you'll have to figure out by playing around with the settings...driving...adjust...drive some more..adjust.....I've always felt the best way to learn is to learn from mistakes, that way you'll know what NOT to do.

Btw, how can anyone say Super Street gave 240's a bad name by showing how popular they are with drifters, it's probably the only good thing that pathetic ricer rag ever did. And drifting does not diminish the image of the 240 at all, if anything it makes it better because it shows how well the car handles. Straight line drag racing is not the end all definitive measure of performance of a car, cars have steering wheels for a reason. Being able to push a car to the limit by driving around a circuit is a truer measure of performance and driver skill. But anyway, I don't think anyone should pay attention to what they see in Super Street, Import Tuner or any other "import lifestyle" magazines, they are pure ****. Sure they have pretty pictures, but that's it...their articles have no journalistic value or substance whatsoever (I mean who really cares about Ricki Chu's pathetic obsession with Sharon Sotto? She's just as trashy as any other import model out there, f*** that, and don't get me started on the ads Super S***). And if you're going to be influence by a magazine, please, at least let it be Sport Compact Car. At least you can say that they write well written articles (I'd say as well written as any Motor Trend or Road and Track article) about techinical concepts and technologies that affect our cars and how we drive, not the latest body kit or clear ____ that will fit on your honda. You also won't find coverage of the latest HIN, instead you'll find coverage or REAL racing..SCCA, rally, etc. At least SCC cators to real motorsports. Sorry...super street just makes me so sick sometimes that i just have to vent my utter disgust.

-Joe-

[Mayhem_J30]

whatever most people do to make their car handle good...do just the opposite.

[RPS13 Rocket]

Hmmm, so you are in Indy too. If you need any advice on drift setups, etc.. Feel free to ask me. I spent many a year in Japan where I drifted before anyone in the states knew what the hell it was. lol.

Hey did Defcon build a Stealth TT with a '99 front conversion and a very hooked up motor? I think it was them. Anyways I work for Santeca out of here in Indy, we just built an insane 240 w/SR20DET and upgraded everything. The only thing left stock was the frame. We are starting on an RB25 conversion into an S14 here after SEMA.

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Actually Defcon built a Supra TT with a single turbo conversion, and all the goodies to go with it...check it out at:

http://www.defconmotorsports.c...+pics

http://www.defconmotorsports.c...+pics

My dad' company just put some glass into one of your 240's"Economy Auto Glass"

I might have to swing by sometime and check you guys out, you are off of Gasoline Alley correct?

[RPS13 Rocket]

Hmmm, so you are in Indy too. If you need any advice on drift setups, etc.. Feel free to ask me. I spent many a year in Japan where I drifted before anyone in the states knew what the hell it was. lol.

Hey did Defcon build a Stealth TT with a '99 front conversion and a very hooked up motor? I think it was them. Anyways I work for Santeca out of here in Indy, we just built an insane 240 w/SR20DET and upgraded everything. The only thing left stock was the frame. We are starting on an RB25 conversion into an S14 here after SEMA.

__________________

Actually Defcon built a Supra TT with a single turbo conversion, and all the goodies to go with it...check it out at:

http://www.defconmotorsports.c...+pics

http://www.defconmotorsports.c...+pics

My dad's company just put some glass into one of your 240's"Economy Auto Glass"

I might have to swing by sometime and check you guys out, you are off of Gasoline Alley correct?

[EyeStabPeople]

i dont understand the point of building a drift car... unless you were going for the art of it, drifitn is certainly not the fastest way around the track, and definately not cheap, youll end up replacing the rear tires every time you fill up the gas tank, but it sure as hell is pretty and i have no problem with it, i jut dont liek when people buy 240s for the strict reason to drift, like its the only thing the car is good for, hell with a few grand in suspension work the damn things will outhandle a ferrari, why not try grip guys!

and BTW, i dont remember who said drag racing a 240 was a waste of a perfectly good 240. im surprised youre saying that since Jun picked an S14 for a drag car and is in the 8s with an sr20det and stock body, no lift off front end etc. you think Jun wasted a perfectly good S14? you need to be careful what you say, people use these cars for what the want and they accell in EVERYTHING, except maybe mud bogging

drift, drag, drive, jump it, whatever just have some fun with the car, i forgot what i was talking about and im getting way off topic so ill shut up, sorry i didnt contribute anything to your cause RPS13 Rocket :p

[Miami240]

I know Tein makes a setup just for drifting. http://www.tein.com they tell you what offset wheels you need and other bits of info. it probably couldent hurt to contact them either

[SpeeDDrifT]

i'm the one that said straightline is a waste of a 240, which actually i didn't really mean that. just a response to everyone early in this thread that seemed to be dogging drifting. i thought the jun S14 ran a 9.10? or at least it did when i saw it in Sac. however i do think building a 240 for drag only is a waste. my opinion. when it is a car capable of many things making it drive only straight is lame IMO.

anyways rocket.....here a couple links that might help. try search for drift setup.

most important is LSD and good tires and technique and decent suspension. other things are helpful but not quite as necessary.

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....setup

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....setup

[Edge2099]

initial d!

[neurovish]

Whoa slow down...I have experience in Drag set-ups in fact I am involved with a shop that is building a low 9sec Supra. My buddy has a built Galant VR-4, he wants a SC300 to drift with. I want to show him how a s13 will be far more superior in drifting then his heavy azz toyota!! This is why I need to know what the most utilized set-up is. Mainly suspension, camber degree settings, wheel size and tire size. I already know how I am building the engine and transmission so that is not of any of my concern.

I chose to go this route instead of the traditional drag set-ups to advance my driving abilities, hence utilize them more!!!

Any help is appreciated and I have ENJOYED watching Option2 Drift movies for many years, just never thought about building one until now.

BTW this isn't the first car I have built so :pface

If he has the money to maintain the car, I think he should stick with the sc300....the main thing in drifting is style and uniqueness (well, outside of having fun...but you don't need to 'build a drift car' to do that) and if you start out with a car such as the sc300 you're already a step above the masses that are using s chassis nissans and ae86s...you don't need the usual 'stable, well balanced, lightweight' demographic for a drift car...hell, if I had the money I'd work a q45 to drift. Huge cars look so much better working their way around a drift course....the best drift I've seen in real life was when a friend of mine took to the parking lot in his mom's ford expedition, didn't have to worry about hitting curbs in that beast...he drifted right over them.

[myztik]

The Tein HE's can't be bought in the USA for the rest of the year. That is what I was told when I went ot order them, so I got the HA's instead.