Drifters posts wanted!

[Pantaro]

im currently doing research on weight effects on 240sx's used for drifting with heavier engines like the rb or anything heavier than the SR.So anyone who has actually initiated a drift themselves and has experiance on how it feels from a drivers point of view.

I wanna hear about it!

[speedeast]

Give me 6 weeks and I'll have an opinion of my own. This thread might be more effective in a general discussion forum, rather than here.

[Pantaro]

yea that did cross my mind after i posted

[danielmcn]

dude dont waste your time with ANYTHING other then an sr20 (the best ever). the sr comes with auto drift, all you do is hit the gas....





I cant tell you how the rb drifts yet, no lsd or good ebrake so no drifting yet.

[Pantaro]

ralmao,worst ever......

[Cjmartz2k]

ralmao,worst ever......

This thread in the RB forum or daneilmcn's post because he doesn't agree with you?

[Pantaro]

what he said about sr20,i think he was joking tho,lol

[RustspecS13]

I put plenty of miles on my RB20 when it was running, and I really had no problems.

I went from a 120-130whp sohc ka to my 217whp/206wtq rb20. It felt great I didn't really notice any big issues under steering. When it did understeer, it was worse but if your understeering in a KA, your doing it wrong.

One of my friends that competed regionally had a s13 coupe, rb20 13psi, front mount, 12 pt roll cage, welded diff. And his normal front tires were 215/50/16 BFG taction ta all seasons. He had no problems, and I would have loved to have his car as is.

Tire compound has far far more to do with traction/understeer then engine weight. Even though the engine adds weight to the front of the car, it still gets distributed at all 4 wheels.

At work we have corner weight scales, and if I remember, or get the time I will weigh my car with a KA and RB in it. I would do it in the next couple days but its just a shell and I'm working on the roll cage right now...

~Alex

[Cjmartz2k]

If there is one thing RB20's excel at, it's having the crap beat out of them and keeping on going. I know plenty of R32 drift cars over here that live a long life of banging off the rev limiter going through multiple RB20/25 stock turbos in the process. RB20's are damn tough to break.

[danielmcn]

dude dont waste your time with ANYTHING other then an sr20 (the best ever). the sr comes with auto drift, all you do is hit the gas....

No jokes here SR20DET the s***..........

I dont notice any problems driving around, with me (250lb) in my car its 2980lb. I need to hit the gym to make my car faster lol.

[WhatsADSM]

While the weight balance does effect the chassis dynamics, we aren't talking about anything crazy here. Everyone always bishez about the front end weight of an RB car, and while I will admit it is worse than an SR it's still reasonable. There are a few people on here including myself that road race their RB cars, and I have even had people with SRs get in my car and rave how they basically can't tell a difference due to the way I had the car setup.

BY FAR the chassis setup and powerband setup has A LOT more to do about the way a car will drift than how much front end weight you have. 2-way/welded diff, huge rear sway and no front, all bushings replaced, correct selection of tires, nice snappy powerband, would all lead to a car that would drift great regardless of engine selected.

[Pantaro]

look at that happy rb20 owners even tho so many claim not to waste ur money on them......

[Cjmartz2k]

Are you trying to continue an argument or prove your point in this thread (which is FAR from tech related)? You are not proving your point at all. You need to knock this crap off before you get yourself banned kid.

[Pantaro]

first off,obviously everyone in the world has differant opinions.they are called opinions that's why there is no such thing as a wrong one.just because ppl have differant opinions doesnt make it an arguement either.there is no point to be proven.......this posts goal is mainly to hear differant perspectives from differant points of view,because im an OPEN minded person! Which isnt that one of the purposes of forums? Also i'll say whatever i feel like cause its supposed to be a free country where i live even tho that's definitly not the case.as far as getting banned if someone feels the need to take that action that just proves this isnt the place for me.o and by the way im not your kid........

[Cjmartz2k]

Well, this isn't a free country, this is an internet forum. What the mod's say are the rules are law. My point is, we already have enough of these stupid arguments in our TECH section, you don't need to add to it. If you want to talk about your 7 second BBC with two different N20 systems and a custom crate motor (all of which you are affording while going to Wyotech Community College ) on a Nissan forum thinking it somehow supports your argument that a RB20 is awesome, do it in the Off Topic or General Forums. We don't need to hear about your teenage car wet dreams in tech. Also, quit spreading bad tech info saying Series II RB25's (or any RB20/25 for that matter) came with an extended oil pump drive. I like how you kept ignoring my questions on that subject in your other thread since you knew you were full of s***.

[Pantaro]

sorry to burst ur bubble bro but im 29 and i think u have me mistaken for s13drifter88 cause im definitly not into chevys and definitly dont own one.I cant stand drag racing so u definitly got the wrong guy

[Cjmartz2k]

Well, you do have me there. I did mistake you for the other guy in the "lets make out while talking about RB20's thread". I did goof there. Same basic topic in this thread and I didn't pay close enough attention. I'll let this thread continue with out my bashing now

[Pantaro]

it kool were all mature adults here,but by all means if you have opinions on drift cars and engines do share

[Cjmartz2k]

Well, I don't think the RB20 is bad for drifting and never said that. I just said it wasn't worth swapping in to anything. If it's already in a car, fine, leave it. It'll take lots of abuse and make more than enough power for sliding. As Rustspec and a couple of other people mentioned, they make decent power and take a beating. If you have a S-chassis already though, I think a ka-t or SR is a much better option when consider the cost/pain in the a** factor vs any possible benefits. You MIGHT be able to make an argument that the RB20 by itself might have some kind of advantage over an SR or ka-t, but I don't think any of those possible advantages would out weigh the cost/pain in the a** disadvantages that come along with them. I'm not bashing people who have chosen to go this route either. I think we are talking about a person who still has a stock (USDM) S-chassis and has to decide what to put in it.

BTW, it's not the displacement that keeps the RB20 from making a lot of power, it's the crappy flowing head. I'm not a hater of small displacement engines. I've got my but stomped by more than a couple of 2.0L Evo I-III's over here.

[Pantaro]

pretty much right now i have a rolling chassis,so im in that i need a swap phase and im doing research as to what is the right engine for me.

i've definitly heard a lot about the rb20 head not flowing well.but i am looking for something somewhat affordable and im definitly aware that gaskets and other things would need to be replaced.about the only thing that for me is good about an sr is parts availablity but than again i would be just another guy who has an sr.

[Seanzyyy]

don't let the fact that the sr is a common swap turn you away from possibly doing it.
(sorry if i'm reposting what others have said because i skimmed through it fairly quickly lol)
people say rb20's are pointless because you're getting the same amount of power and adding weight.

don't base what you do on what other people do.
if you're objective is to have a great motor with great potential and an amazing aftermarket support,
by all means go sr, you won't be disappointed.

but if you want the power, sound, potential that an rb has, yadda yadda ya,
go rb.

it's a matter of personal preference imo when comparing an rb20 and an sr20.
shut other people's swaps and projects out and focus on what you want.

as far as the point of this thread from the first post,
i believe there's a sticky that says a full tank of gas will have more of a weight shift than the weight of the motor,
or something like that.
it's not like its overboard with the added weight.

[Pantaro]

good advice,personally i think the rb20 fits my personality more cause its usually the road less traveled and im all about being who i am and not playing follow the leader and being differant.what actually motivated me to even start this topic was a video i saw with tanner foust and the scion tc that has the toyota v8 engine in it and he was talking about how he had to adjust to the extra weight in the front and how it changed the pivot point in his drift technique and actually helped him get deeper angles cause of more weight in the front.