Drift Tuners : Their Own Forums AKA Using Their Own Words To Hang Themselves

[tyndago]

http://www.gtrusablog.com/2008....html

I have some good stuff. From Drift Tuners own forum. This guy is good.

Posted by Jermy Boddy - Nov 19,2008

Also if you live in any state besides Cali you don't need to Federalize the car. You can get it legal in your state for much less. Around $5,000

And again.

Posted by Jeremy Boddy - Nov 23, 2008

Because you’re not in Cali you don't have to worry about the Federalization process. When you Federalize it means that you can be a resident of any state with any JDM however if you decide never to move to Cali then there is no extra cost on top of our listed price on the website. But if you do decide to move to Cali then you will have to pay the $26,000 because Cali’s emissions and safety standards are so tight. Sucks but that’s the Government for ya!

Federalization. Does he understand what Federalization means ? He is giving a customer advice about Federalization. Federal. As in the whole country. As in bringing the car into compliance with DOT and EPA rules. The only way you need to do Federalization is if you are in California ? California has its own rules.

This guy is just talking about getting "state legal" cars. Nothing else. He can't get a federal car done. He keeps claiming to be able to do it, never seen anything.

Big talk....BIG TALK

Posted by Jeremy Boddy January 31 ,2008

There are alot of importers however we are the only RI in the world that can legally modify the R33 to comply with the US laws and that's because we have the multi million dollar crash testing facility and we are the only company in the world that know what and how to modify the R33 to US standards. Also not many companies in North America can legally import track cars, you have to hold a special licence for customs clearance to do so. DRIFT Tuners has been around for a few years and generates sales near the million per year.

They are an RI ? They have a multi- million dollar crash test facility ? Big words from these guys with no proof. Its nearly a year later and what do they have ?

One morePosted by Jeremy Boddy - Nov 19,2008 -

I can get you in a fully Federalized DOT, EPA, NHTSA R34 for a budget of $25,000.

So where in the list of non conforming vehicles is an R34 ? The list says 1996-1998 R33's only. So you are offering something to someone that you can not legally sell them. He is saying because the R34 was also available in 1998, that it somehow is ok as the 1998 R33 is legal. Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids.

[drifttuners]

Ya Sean I agree screw DRIFT Tuners they scam people all the time. Oh who did they scam that you know?? Because sean your so great that we have seen you create an importing company with your knowledge. So Sean if you know it all whay dont you import, I mean your the man and all.

[drifttuners]

Holy **** got to get me one of them Sean Morris cars man because he knows it all sweet Jesus screwen Christ he is the man.

[InTheDark]

Because you’re not in Cali you don't have to worry about the Federalization process. When you Federalize it means that you can be a resident of any state with any JDM however if you decide never to move to Cali then there is no extra cost on top of our listed price on the website. But if you do decide to move to Cali then you will have to pay the $26,000 because Cali’s emissions and safety standards are so tight. Sucks but that’s the Government for ya!

Federalization. Does he understand what Federalization means ? He is giving a customer advice about Federalization. Federal. As in the whole country. As in bringing the car into compliance with DOT and EPA rules. The only way you need to do Federalization is if you are in California ? California has its own rules.

I was "that customer" asking all the questions "AKA ReachTheSky". I was well aware that w/o the federalization price it wouldn't be so called "Federalized". I'm willing to take that risk, and he informed me very well that it'll just be state legal rather federally legal.

I think you're holding a grudge from something in the past, and I don't plan on moving to Cali/Florida etc. So I'd be fine.

So where I'm trying to get at is, he's very informative about what to be aware of, you just read bits and pieces on the forums, when I'm always emailing Jeremy.

Are you secretly trying to bring back MotoRex for yourself? And insanely angry you can't monopolize because of Jeremy? I think that's the case.

[tyndago]

I was "that customer" asking all the questions "AKA ReachTheSky". I was well aware that w/o the federalization price it wouldn't be so called "Federalized". I'm willing to take that risk, and he informed me very well that it'll just be state legal rather federally legal..

3 posts. Anyone check this guys IP address ?

OK. So how could have Jeremy told you the car was "state legal" when he was not aware of the difference , last night when he emailed me ?

http://www.gtrusablog.com/2008....html

Where in the U.S law does it say that any car imported has to be at Federal Standards? It’s State to State.

Jeremy Boddy General Director DRIFT Tuners Inc.

Where ? How about here ?

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...8.pdf

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...m#591

This part establishes procedures governing the importation of motor vehicles and motor vehicle equipment subject to the Federal motor vehicle safety, bumper, and theft prevention standards to ensure that motor vehicles and motor vehicle equipment permanently imported into the United States conform to theft prevention standards, all applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards, and bumper standards.

Thats 49CFR Part 591 which is federal law on vehicle importation. Not state to state.

[edthemanjp]

You miss the point its not about California, Motorex, or Sean. Its about not getting what you think your getting and if you say FEDlegal and its state legal we'll your lying.

If anyone wants to buy a state legal car thats fine more power to them as long as they know what their buying and the risks they take(KNOW). I've stated before I don't like people being deceived and I will fight against it as long as I have the ability.

There are some words used which need clarification DOT is the United States Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, NHTSA is a branch under DOT. NYDOT for example is New York Department of Transportation, not the DOT.

A state legal car is a car brought in a mirad of ways and registered at a (state) DOT. This car is actually like cocaine, you can enjoy it as long as you don't get caught. People do cocaine all the time but its not legal.

A federalized or legal car is brought in and made to compy with EPA and DOT. This car is legal no looking over the shoulder or worrying.

Whatever you drive enjoy as long as you know what you have.

[tyndago]

Carlo Giordano and his son, Allesandro Giordano, both of Nashville, Tenn., were arrested on July 10 in Nashville on charges that they and their company, Autodelta USA, illegally sold automobiles in California that violated federal Clean Air Act (CAA) and vehicle safety standards. Both men and their company had been indicted on July 2 in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California in Santa Ana for conspiracy to defraud the United States, and on seven counts of wire fraud and three counts of making false statements in documents required by the CAA. The charges allege that the defendants illegally imported approximately two dozen post-1995 model Alfa Romeo automobiles into the United States for sale to the public, falsely claiming that the cars would be for personal use only. Alfa Romeos have not been built to American safety and environmental standards since the 1995 model year. U.S. law allows the importation of automobiles that do not meet American standards provided that the cars are for personal use and only if the cars remain in the United States for a limited time. If convicted on all charges, each of the Giordanos face a maximum possible penalty of five years in prison on each of the 11 counts in the indictment. Autodelta could be sentenced to fines of more than $5 million, if convicted on all counts. The case was investigated by the EPA Criminal Investigation Division and the Office of the U.S. Bureau of Customs and Immigration Enforcement. The case is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Santa Ana, Calif. An indictment is merely an allegation and all defendants are presumed innocent unless or until proven guilty in a court of law.

http://vehicleimport.blogspot.....html

[BigMACKenzie]

wow what a big stupid dong waving contest. protip: its more interesting for the viewers at home if we know what you sh1tmagicians are arguing about.

[SamuraiSam]

wow what a big stupid dong waving contest. protip: its more interesting for the viewers at home if we know what you sh1tmagicians are arguing about.

If you don't understand the material being debated, hit the "Back" button.

[AZhitman]

Agreed.

I'll remind everyone involved that unprofessional language on my forum is about the stupidest thing you can do.

Actually, lying or posting half-truths is #1.

I'd also remind people to be cautious who they defend in these discussions. So far, Mr. "InTheDark", the people reading the "bits and pieces" in the forums are far more informed than you'll be having a discussion with one guy. Especially when his information is suspect at best.

Sorry - I call it like I see it.

Wonder where good ol' Frank Mendola fits into all this? Oh, never mind - I already know...

Carry on, folks.

[BigMACKenzie]

direct me to the rest of the puzzle then plz... I swear up and down i read the whole thing, it still felt like a 1/2 thread and someone arguing with themselves.

[tyndago]

zer...e-usa

Thats a start of it. Heres the Cliffs notes.

These guys in Canada "claim" they can sell US DOT, EPA, and titled cars. Lots of people get happy, I show them that these guys don't have the ability to legalize cars.

Look for Drift Tuners in any of the threads here or in other forums. You will see what this guy has to say.

I am looking out for the consumers, the guys that want a car and don't know the laws. I am trying to educate them, so they can make good decisions with their money.

[jdmexperts]

[QUOTE=AZhitman]Agreed.

Actually, lying or posting half-truths is #1.

QUOTE]So you want people to talk "Half-Truth" ?? and you are the CEO?

[themadscientist]

You have the same IP as drifttuners but posting under another name that was just created a few minutes ago.

And you expect people to think you are legit?

[AZhitman]

So you want people to talk "Half-Truth" ?? and you are the CEO?

Apparently you're not ONLY a crappy 'businessman', but you also fail at reading comprehension.

Here's what I said:

unprofessional language on my forum is about the stupidest thing you can do.

Actually, lying or posting half-truths is #1.

I'm not sure how anyone (aside from a tail-tucking Canucky) can misinterpret that.