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Megaseth
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I was wondering what is the best set up for drifting. I've got the brakes covered ( xdrilled&slotted) and i know a LSD is vital, but what else can you recommend. Tires? Engine mods? Interior stuff? i am also getting a drift wing cause i know that will help a lot, at least 20-30 hp :o) but anyways, any info is great, thanks


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You're going to need a pretty nice suspension to go with all that. Most of the Japanese companies offer drift setups, its just something that you have to research, everyone has a different opinion and driving style.

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Get really cheap tires. Don't make 'em very fat either. ;)

that really does help

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i have the alloy wheels on my car, and i just got new tires not to long ago. should i get a set of cheap wheels to go along with the tires. i know there are some really good drift wheels out there, but i dont really want to spend the money on them if im gonna use them like that.

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Megaseth wrote:i have the alloy wheels on my car, and i just got new tires not to long ago. should i get a set of cheap wheels to go along with the tires. i know there are some really good drift wheels out there, but i dont really want to spend the money on them if im gonna use them like that.
the drift wing is a good idea, I wouldn't even think about attempting to drift without one, who knows what may happen!

Mods in themselves are rather unimportant for drifting, the most helpful would be the lsd...if you plan to drift a lot, instead of sinking money into suspension upgrades, save it to replace broken things....and a set of wheels that you deem 'disposeable' will also be a good idea. As far as tires go, anything will do, and the cheaper they are, the happier you will be when they start showing belts after a couple weeks.

If you absolutely must spend money to upgrade your suspension, then swaybars and stbs would be a good way to go...anything to stiffen the chassis and keep body roll to a minimum in general will be good.

Engine mods are pretty much wholly unnecessary, a stock KA has all the power you need to get into trouble.

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If you have the money you can buy full coilover setups that were designed for drifting like Tien HE's or others. You can mess with the camber a little bit too. As for actually drifting i'd say practice in the rain since it conserves tires, takes less power and allows you to get basic skills down.

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Drifting in the rain is very far from actual dry drifting... just find a parking lot and practice there.

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HEHEHE, yeah i know about trying to drift in a parking lot when it was raining. the parking lot up at my school just got repaved. its nice and smooth. but when its wet, its really slick, and i was up there playing around and almost slid into an unpaved patch.

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Get cheap, not as wide, rear wheels, like the steelies off base models, or of another car with the same pattern, or old cheap 240 alloys from a junkyard or something. Cheap used tires (I don't know about by you, but by me there are tons of "used" tire places). Overinflate the back tires (makes them break away easier). You don't really need that expensive of a setup, I'd go with Ground Control coilovers with tockico, or agx shocks or whatever. If you have the $$ get a nice set of coilovers, as previously discussed. Get some camber plates for the front, run some negative camber. And as everyone said LSD, this is very helpful, especially with a KA in dry weather.

When you first start off, pick a pretty big lot, with not a lot of crap (curbs, lightposts, medians, speedbumps), to minimize the chance of you breaking something.

Drifting in the rain may not teach you all the mechanics, but it'll help you get the basics, plus you are not making as much tire noise, keeping the cops away, and its a bit easier on your car.

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you really dont have to spend that much moneymain thing i'd concern yourself with if you're going to drift is adding some 'toe in' on the rear tiresit creates lateral camber on the tires so the face inthis creates a good advantage when launching plus when drifting its easier to lose control when you intend to and A LOT more easier to illiminate oversteer when needed

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thanks for all the info guys. i hope to put it all to good use around my town, even though there are very few places to drift out here. now that i know what i need for my car to handle well and perform better, i just need to perfect my heel-toe tecnique... :o) thanks again

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Everyone had different drifting setups.... search around:ylsuper

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"now that i know what i need for my car to handle well and perform better, i just need to perfect my heel-toe tecnique... :o) thanks again"

Maybe you should learn how to drive stick before you start drifting....You know one thing at a time.

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Uh, i do know how. i drive a 91 HB w/MT. Heel-Toe is from Initial D. Takumi uses it in his AE86.

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could lowering springs be used instead of coilovers since theyre mad expensive right now hehehe i hafta save up!!! also what do u mean "drift wing" is it some special kind of spoiler or inside joke??

and could someone explain the "heel toe" for me!!! thanks!

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oh and what about OBX coilvers?? are those ok?

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off my head which is probably wrong. you put your toe on the back heel on your gas, leave other foot on clutch. hit whatever u need to get u ok and bam theres heel toe

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LOL, no the drift wing is a real thing. i kinda looks like a whale tail, looks like a longer version of the SE spoiler. I dont know how well it effects the handling aerodynamics wise, but it looks good. and the heel toe thing, like i said its from Initial D. Takumi drives a right hand drive AE86. he uses his left foot for the clutch and the heel of his right foot to push gas and toe for brake. its really hard to do.

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ok so where do i get the drift wing? oh yeah and I LOVE Initial D got all of it on DVD!! GO 86! GO SPEEDSTARS!!

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I know that here in America, most body kit companies dont make a drift style wing. a lot of them are those rediculously huge spoilers and wings that are more for looks. i know Bomex makes one, $370, but i dont know any other companits that make them here in America or a Japanese company that sells here. The one im getting is from Jspec.com . its a wing they found in Japan, they have some others depending on what model you have.

I love the Speed stars too, but i gots Night Kids stickers on my baby :)

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ESPER wrote:ok so where do i get the drift wing? oh yeah and I LOVE Initial D got all of it on DVD!! GO 86! GO SPEEDSTARS!!


example of a 'drift wing' (picture from http://www.jspec.com).it is both a real thing and an inside joke as it is more for styling than performance.

...and heel-toe isn't *from* initial d, it's a technique for downshifting while braking. Since it's a pretty common thing in racing, it was naturally put in the anime.

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well lsd is def main concern. Then to make it easier like the others said you want to get as little traction as possible in the rear. So cheap bald tires, and as stiff as possible suspesion in the rear. Coilovers arent nessesary. adjustable struts help more than ride height. My main concern would be the lsd. Without the lsd real driffting is coppy unsmooth and quite dangerous

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looksLikeA240 wrote:well lsd is def main concern. Then to make it easier like the others said you want to get as little traction as possible in the rear. So cheap bald tires, and as stiff as possible suspesion in the rear. Coilovers arent nessesary. adjustable struts help more than ride height. My main concern would be the lsd. Without the lsd real driffting is coppy unsmooth and quite dangerous


just administer negative toe... you dont hafta go through all that trouble with changing the LSD and suspension... if you REALLY didnt know how to fishtail at least in the rain then maybe you hafta do all that... but im sure you do know how... the harder part of drifting is maintaining a constant linenegative toe will help you do thats because the tires are facing inward.... think of it like you're skiing and you're using that 'A' stop with your skis inward... you're somewhat already drifting yeh?.... toe in wont be as dramatic but recovering from a drift will be easier

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well the drift wing doesnt seem like anything spectacular but i do see that on the 180's. i also picked up a back issue of super street magazine where they featured a special on japanese drifters. a majority of them who had the fd and s14/s15 had those new universal gt wings that were in fast and furious and then there was one who had no spoiler and a couple misc. ones and some that looked like the stock 240sx se! i guess i'll just keep my stock 95 se! hehe

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Megaseth wrote:....Takumi drives a right hand drive AE86. he uses his left foot for the clutch and the heel of his right foot to push gas and toe for brake. its really hard to do.


It doesn't matter if you're in a right or left-hand drive car. The pedals are in the same configurations. Heel-toe is only used for when you have to brake and down-shift at the same time. The method is used to match the rev when you down shift between gears.


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