Drift Set up Suspension???? What the **ll??

[ska0056]

Hi!I got the 1990' Nissan 240sx with 100k.and I'm gonna mod my suspension system first..My question is that Do you guys think I have to change my whole suspension sytem? if i wanna drift and race on the street? I plan to change just Eibach Prokit which is drops my car about 1.6 rear, 1.8 front.. And it work? Anybody tried to change just lowering spring?? Please tell me your experience...I'll appreciate it..

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

All you need to drift is an LSD...use it with stock suspension too.Eibach springs will drop your car and improve the handling and ride quality slighty.

[SpeedRacer1]

You might break your stock shocks. I have sprints that lower 1.8 F and R and all my shocks are gone.

[JDM240sx]

Just do things right ... from the start. get a good adjustable "full" coilover kit and set the rear stiff and the front a few clicks from soft. this will make your car a bit more tail happy.

Good Luck... I suggest TEIN's or Tanabe Sustec. spend the $$$ you wont be sorry.

[Cyberkreig]

Tien's are awesome, but dontcha think thats kinda extream to start on? I'm gonna be starting with ProKit and KYG AGX's.. Its a $500 answer to a million $ question.

Does anyone have the HKS pillow ball mounts? Aside from front camber adjustment, what good ar pillow ball mounts anyway? $600.. better be worth something..

Joe

[ska0056]

I decide to buy Eibach Prokit and KYB AGX...I saw these stuffs on the web... Is this complete kit?If I just buy those two things that mean i don't have to purchase more for the stuff??What about upper mount and other nuts for install???Anybody installed it?? Please reply me sir....I'll appreciate it..

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

I agree with JDM240sx, if you have the money get coilovers. There is no point in buying springs and struts if you know you are going to buy coilovers down the road. Just go wipe your a** with $500 and flush it down the toilet :pface You can not beat the adjustability and handling gains you get from coilovers.

[cnichols]

I agree with JDM240sx, if you have the money get coilovers. There is no point in buying springs and struts if you know you are going to buy coilovers down the road. Just go wipe your a** with $500 and flush it down the toilet :pface You can not beat the adjustability and handling gains you get from coilovers.

Ditto...why buy something you don't want to keep and know you're going to get rid of? If you don't have the money now...be patient, don't waste your money on stupid $hit and WAIT!!!

[JDM240sx]

Trust me I know.. I first had H&R and Bilsteins which I paid $700 for. I eventually sold them after a year and bought TEIN HA's for $950 if i had just paid the extra $250 I wouldnt have had to redo my suspension a gazillion times plus this allows for slammed look at shows and a good daily driving ride height.

When I got the TEIN's I wondered why the heck did i ever spend $700 on springs and shocks tha rode like a go-kart?

[Cyberkreig]

I eventually sold them after a year and bought TEIN HA's for $950 ... plus this allows for slammed look at shows and a good daily driving ride height.?

Points well made.. but I thought Tien's were much more than that.. Whose the source??

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

HA's are the cheapest Tein's I believe...its when you start buying their R models (r is for racing) the price is jacked.

[JDM240sx]

TEIN HA's are not that cheap, I just got a good deal on them. TEIN FLEX and TEIN SS are also good. The higher priced TEIN's are for RACEONLY.. you need back surgery after a week of normal road driving

[StanBo]

You will also need a face lift. Any loose skin or flubber will be shook all to heck.

I can't wait to get out of NYC.

TEIN FLEX is nice if you want to go with their solinoid controllers. They allow you to tune the dampening from inside the car with a push of a button.

[JDM240sx]

You will also need a face lift. Any loose skin or flubber will be shook all to heck.

I can't wait to get out of NYC.

TEIN FLEX is nice if you want to go with their solinoid controllers. They allow you to tune the dampening from inside the car with a push of a button.

StanBo.... The EFDC works with the HA's my friend has it... we installed them together. EFDC works on FLEX and HA's to my knowledge so far.

Take care

[SWIFT_DRIFT]

doesn't EDFC work on all of tein's setups?

[FrEaK]

Correction... all you need to drift.. are crappy rear tires... thats it... no suspension upgrades needed... unless your gonna get HELLA competitive...

[StanBo]

StanBo.... The EFDC works with the HA's my friend has it... we installed them together. EFDC works on FLEX and HA's to my knowledge so far.

Take care

NICE! Thanks for the heads up.

[SpeeDDrifT]

drifting is expensive i think we all know that, as FreaK and Swift both have input about the LSD or crappy tires etc. you can drift with skill with any RWD however to drift well and for a DRIFT SET-UP ...many things are helpful....1. LSD2. fully adjustable coilovers3. tires...i don't agree with the crappy tire idea.for a serious drift setup...i prefer a 1.5 way LSD. i like the car low as reasonable possible. camber out front and rear, more in the front. and toe in on the front wheels. as to the degree of camber and toe...that's preference. your tire width should also be less than the rim width however not so much less that the tires will easily come off. but the sidewall should slanted in from the rim and not flush. also you want good tires not bald crappy tires with the right technique good tires are much better to drift on as long as you can afford it. i'm not saying go buy the best tire on the market but a decent tire. i like falkens..they are good tires and reasonable prices. kumho wear way to fast. anyways i hoped i helped a little. good drifting!

PS FYI my 240 has a long way to go, my trueno was tuned for drifting as above

[s14=pimpin']

spend the little extra and get the coil overs, you won't regret it.

[uic240]

Can someone give some good sources?? thanks

[Akiraxxvi]

ok call me stupid but what is edfc.... im considering on getting tein he i was thinking of gp sport four drift coilovers but no one tells me anything about them so i am going with teins but what exactly is this edfc if someone could tell me without HAVING to be an a** about it thanks...

[BadMojo]

ok call me stupid but what is edfc....

It's a magic box that's home to little automotive elves. When you press a button, the elves jump out of the box and adjust the damping on your shocks for you...

Quote »if someone could tell me without HAVING to be an a** about it thanks... [/quote]Oh...you said *without* having to be an a**.

Actually, EDFC is the acronym for Electronic Damping Force Controller. It's small control box that hooks up to the shocks on your car. It lets you adjust the damping on your shocks without having to get out of the car. Pretty cool. It even "remembers" a few setups so you can change between them pretty easily.

As cool as it sounds, I've never heard of anyone who actually has it. I'm not even sure if it's widely sold yet. There are probably better suspension things you could spend your money on.

[Akiraxxvi]

badmojo your cool peoples... thanks i hear all these people on the forums.... well not really hear but whatever... and they are all talking about "oh does edfc work with it?" and "i dont care much for edfc" and im all like what the hell is edfc... and now i know... thanks yo... and seriously why buy an edfc im pretty sure they are pretty expensive when you can just manually adjut the damping... anyway thanks again

[C-Kwik]

You might break your stock shocks. I have sprints that lower 1.8 F and R and all my shocks are gone.

I hope you are referring to blowing them. I doubt youlss see a shock break from drifting unless you hit something. The front struts will not see any more load than road racing, probably less. And the rear shocks to not bear any lateral load.

And I'd suspect bottoming out as the cause of blown shocks. Sprints are not exactly a high quality spring.

[tougeking]

sounds like a dumb question... what is the point on having 1 size smaller width tire... i've noticed it and my next set of tires i plan on stepping down... might as well know the real reason for it...

[SideWays Silvia]

you dont need coilovers when u are just beggining, some stuff that is cheaper and needed more are a good set of tension rods, and tension rod bushing, why have a couple grand in your coilovers and still have the old,leaking bushing, or tension rods? I would suggest to get some small stuff that makes a big diffrence like that, then as you get better get some coilovers

[Stee Flo]

Im kinda stuck between getting shocks/springs or coilovers myself. I want coilovers, but some people say that they are too rough for the streets. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Im thinking of either the tein flex or HE's, but i here the HE is too stiff for daily driving. Wish i knew someone near me with them on their car so i can get a ride and feel for myself.:oface Why is the flex so much more than the HE; is it because it is compatible with edfc? The HE is more performance oriented so you would think it would be more.:rolleyes

[raging panda]

HEs are not that bad, my friend has them and his car is absolutely slammed, we rode through all sorts of stuff and it was considerable stiffer than stock, but not enough to be really uncomfortable.

[RatedR]

Hey SpeedDRIFT, I've got a question.....why get the tires with less width than the wheels??? Wouldn't that reduce the contact patch on them and thus ruin your chances of maintaining control through out the skid???

[Justice]

well the goal in drifting is lose traction in the rear and maintain traction in the front. smaller contact patch in rear... larger in front. LSD is needed for drifting because every drift will end in torment and be glory free.

if you want to drift you first need beginners lessons. now go down to the local K-Mart or Walmart and grab a shoping cart. you are pushing it so its effectivly rear, that you steer with the throtle. notice what happens to the front wheels when you kick it out. thay move were thay need to go. you will never get snap from a shoping cart caus well the front wheels do what thay need. same can happen in your car if you kick it out and... om keep the gas going and let go of the wheel. just let the throttle steer you and the wheel free spin. there is a point were you grab the wheel, but too soon and you will get snap "fishtail" and a point right before that, that makes you smile as you just slid for 6 secs strait with no snap.ack... gotta go driving...