Drift Cars

[Altiman94]

I really don't think there is an argument here. Any car with good power and rwd can be drifted.

[ZenKid_S14]

back at the RSR drift festival they had those guys trying to drift the tow truck hahaha.

[Onizuka]

Cars made to drift: none

Cars you can drift: all of them

[Altiman94]

^very true. I have a friend with a teg who can "half'***'edly" drift. Or that's what he thinks it's doin.

[JJ240]

What the hell are you talking about the coupe for. I never once mentioned it. You said a sil-80 was made for drifting and i said its no different than a 180sx except for the frontend. I dont think you have any clue what youre responding to.

You said: i beg to differ, the sil-80 was indeed MADE to drift. i also include s14 because keiichi says so in drift bible and who am i to doubt keiichi

I said: LOL how is the Sil-80 made to drift. Its just a 180sx with a silvia frontend...how is it a better drift car than a 180sx. Oh yeah I forgot, those silvia projector headlights give you better light to see where the exit of the corner is...my bad.

If you think a sil-80 was made to drift you show me the nissan press release saying their new drift car is going into production. And if youre just trying to say that a sil-80 is a good drift car then how is it the only one? What do you think makes it better than a 180sx.

[89240sx]

RONG!

The CA18 was only in the 180 for the first few years. Then they switched it to the SR format.

Ya coming from a guy that can't spell the word WRONG

I was talking about the original meaning.... some people's children :rolleyes

[89240sx]

Dude, I just said that.

you beat me to it! must type fast

[prigo]

Ya coming from a guy that can't spell the word WRONG

I intentionally mispelled that word to add a greater emphesis to its meaning.

Kthx.

[gema]

^

Damn your handle, whenever I read a post of yours I think "Prigo sounds a lot like Prego," and now I'm hungry. Now I have to go downstairs and make spaghetti. Damn you.

[prigo]

^ lol, don't forget Preggo (a type of pr0n), Pringles (chips), and many other things my name could be associated with. Believe me, I've heard them all! I'm a multi-board troll

[Ceptos]

the s12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[S13OS]

Any RWD car has the potential to drift. And with proper modifications any can be a "drift car". So to try and make a list of drift cars is easy:

Drift Cars: Anything RWD

A list seems kinda pointless to make.

[gema]

Note that I changed "Drift Cars" and "Cars made for Drifting" to "Cars easily optimized to drift." I somehow doubt my old RWD Caddy DeVille would be a drifting monster stock. You know what I mean when I ask the question.

[chmercer]

ratm and JJ240-

"...in Japan people kept smashing the front ends of their 180SXs when they were drifting... into mountains or whatever. simply put, the S13 Silvia front end was cheaper than a 180SX front so they put the Silvia fronts on as a temporary fix. this caused a craze in Japan and it was basically the look in Japan for young people. Nissan had been observing that many of their 180's have been going around with Silvia fronts, and (for an unknown reason) they built a hybrid and released it in 1994. this hybrid was known as the "SIL-EIGHTY", which is exterior-wise just a PS13 with an S13 front end. changes went further though, with changes to camshafts and the ECU, which gave roughly 16~18Kw more (not sure about how much more torque) than both the Silvia and 180SX. also, the suspension was tweaked for drifting purposes. Genuine Sil-eighty's are snap-tail happy, given too much power thru a corner will result in a drift, maybe a spin if you try too hard... Nissan only made about 400 genuine and documented examples, just about all were snapped up upon their release. now at auctions they apparently go for as much as immaculate R32 skyline GT-Rs"

OK?

[Lsnaple]

i read that somwhere too chmercer. i knew it had a few changes to the motor and suspension, but didnt want to say it without being able to document it.

who said a FC cant drift??? ive held much better drifts in my FC than i did in my 240. they do have factory toe and camber to help take a corner at high speed. fortunately, i believe this also allows me to catch my rear and get out of the drift easier. might not flick out as well or stay out and i have a bit of understeer in my FC, but it will drift well. hell, its not even the turbo II.

[yeswepromise]

i think i am just gonna sell my s14 and buy a cheap car that gets good gas milage. it will be the new trend.

[MrFox]

Nissan had been observing that many of their 180's have been going around with Silvia fronts, and (for an unknown reason) they built a hybrid and released it in 1994. this hybrid was known as the "SIL-EIGHTY",

with changes to camshafts and the ECU, which gave roughly 16~18Kw more (not sure about how much more torque) than both the Silvia and 180SX.

Nissan only made about 400 genuine and documented examples,

A tuning shop named Kids Heart made the SilEighty, not Nissan.They came with plain Jane S13 SR20s, both turbos and NA.Kids Heart made 500 of 'em, not 400.

[mav1178]

Any car can be "made to drift" with the proper driver.

-alex

[prigo]

^ True enough.

[mav1178]

Why do I say that? Because that is the truth. If you are skilled enough you can do "controlled oversteer" in any car ANY TIME.

Some people may have different definitions of drifting, but the bottom line is that drifting is controlled oversteer, and you can control oversteer in ANY car/truck/whatever as long as you have the skills.

-alex

[ImportIntelligence]

It is controller oversteer but your wheels must be pointing in the opposite direction for most people to qualify it as a drift.

[Supafly]

half the people in my area consider pulling your ebrake and turning 180 degrees a drift:rolleyes

[Onizuka]

Cars made to drift: none

Cars you can drift: all of them

[I am Technoman]

I think a true drift car should have a 50 50 weight distribution but what do i know.

[mav1178]

It is controller oversteer but your wheels must be pointing in the opposite direction for most people to qualify it as a drift.

If that is the case then most rally cars do not drift. Shoot they hardly have any countersteer!

Like I said a drift by most technical definitions is a controlled oversteer. FR, MR, RR, FF, 4WD, whatever you want to call it.

BTW controlled oversteer does NOT mean countersteer. You can have a car sliding in a completely controlled fashion yet have no obvious front wheel countersteer. For JUDGING PURPOSES AT DRIFT EVENTS countersteer is a must.

-alex

[prigo]

I dont know if I would call it "controlled oversteer"... but I can't think of anything better to call it...

[mav1178]

I don't want to get into an argument over what "drifting" means but you have to think about it from automotive terms. There is neutral handling, oversteer, and understeer. When you drift you purposely induce oversteer using various methods, and you control that oversteer after initiation with throttle, brake, and steering modulation. In other words, YOU as the driver control the oversteer, the amount of oversteer, and the length of the oversteer.

And if you do not see my point then I suggest you take a class in vehicle dynamics.

-alex

[sil40sx]

man, aside from alexs' posts, this is the dumbest thread ive ever read.

[hyb force soldier]

Uh, the Nissan Sil-80 was actually made to drift. It was produced by Nissan in Japan for a couple of years. What it had over the 180SX (Type X?) was a retuned ECU for slightly higher horsepower output and a modified/tuned suspension for more oversteer or something like that.

[hyb force soldier]

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