Sopdadope wrote:PREFACE: In no way shape or form am I trying to offend or antagonize anyone here in particular, especially HKC since this post is primarily directed to you.
Living in a melting pot community, surrounded by a potpourri of ethnicities, I've observed some interesting trends...
Asians, at a much higher percentage than other ethnic groups, partake in interracial relationships. According to nationwide studies, asians tend to date caucasians at a disproportionately higher frequency than other races.
Now don't get me wrong, I have no beef with interracial relationships, matter of fact I've also dated many girls of various backgrounds - Puerto Rican, Mexican, a few white (even dated another NICO member, Victim_of_a_Down for awhile) girls (HKC, my sis also has a Mexican boyfriend.
What I find disturbing are the various reasons conceded by asian men/women when rationalizing their preference for other races.
HKC, you're definitely not in the minority here- seems a lot of asian women say they regularly encounter asian men who are egotistical, foul-mannered, snobby and authoritarian. You're totally entitled to your opinion but being an asian man, it kills me....it absolutely tears me apart when I hear something like that because I'm totally void of any of those foul characteristics nor do I know anyone who's like that. I don't believe it's fair to dismiss an entire population of men based on a few, relatively speaking, bad experiences. Acccording to that rationale, since I've encountered a legion of *****y asian women, it's ok to make sweepin generalizations of all asian women and ostracize all on account of a few bad run-in's so please excuse me if I find the homogeneous argument a little tired and ridiculous.
Another recurring theme I've noticed: asians who date whites as a means of social mobility. For example, this Laotian girl I knew in high school vented about how she was "sick of asian guys" because she claimed most all were either "too nerdy or too ghetto" and expressed an explicit desire to hook up with a preppy, white guy who was raised in white suburbia and on geek rock, regardless if he was physically attractive or not, just as long as he's white. If you're going to dilute asians to certain physical attributes (small stature, slanty eyes, flat noses other supposedly "unattractive" physical traits) and you're not attracted to that... fine but as far as attitudes go, pigeonholing people into racist stereotypes just isn't fair...
Another disturbing phenomenon: because they were spurned by other asians, many, girls in particular, tend to adopt this bizarre vehicle of 'social mobility' and flaunt their "token trophy white bf/gf's" as a means of retaliation. I think situations like that are heterogenuously harmful to both parties: because in essence, it's counter-expoitation and merely exacerbates the situation instead of offering remedy.
On the flipside of the coin, I find the rationale that asian women are attractive because they are submissive/passive (thus immortalizing the 'model minority' stereotype), can cook and that they're the "craziest in the sack" sexist/racist, dubious and down right offensive. Doesn't help that most "performance car magazines" perpetuate this stereotype by featuring a smorgasbord of scantilly-clad asian girls plastered, spread-eagle, over some bloke's hood. If I hear anymore "once you go azn' the party starts ragin' " remarks, prepare to get called out.
Anyway, as I stated before, in no way do I oppose interracial relationships, if you like the person just because your drawn to their personality, then color shouldn't (and doesn't) matter. But if someone dates outside of their race meanwhile disparaging members of their own race, then I take issue with that.
HKC, it's a shame a few bad apples spoiled the barrel for you, must be something in the water with those guys. Those guys need to pull the needles outta their arms cuz I find many Chinese women alluring.
Enough rambling for me....Can anyone host a pic for me? It's a pic of this asian girl I'm , ahem, wooing (Sorry guys, no slutty outfit here, she's just a downhome, down-to-earth, unassuming asian girl- just how I like 'em).
i totally agree with you. in defense to my post about the asian men, i guess i shouda made clear that i am not saying ALL asian men. besides i was mostly directly to chinese guys, well hong kong guys in particular since i grew up there and have hung out with lots of them. so my post was merely my analysis of my own perceptions of HK guys.
oh yea just a few points, i do find and did find some asian men that i wanna date, but they either didnt like me back or were taken. so it's not like i never liked them or dated them before i made those judgements. i had chinese dudes telling me how ugly i actually am and if he wasnt looking for someone to just mess around with, he wouldnt even laid an eye on me. i had a hong kong guy telling me that i am not worth it after i rejected him, i have friends (guys) that keep telling me that i need to lose weight to compete with other chinese girls, i have experienced many more. which makes me sad that i had to put up with all the judgements and change myself (physically) to please a HK guy. my own people.
i probably shouldnt be saying this since my bf is on NICO too, but to tell you the truth, some american born asians are very attractive to me, though i am not allowed to be attracted to them now, but i can tell you that i wouldnt mind dating them, and they are asians, so i am only disgusted by those who have the attributes of those i wrote in my post.
oh and personally i do see a difference between american asians and asian asians. i think i am very americanized, so american asians seem to match me fairly well. like i said, if i wasnt dating my current bf, i would really like to date these particular ones! HEHE dont tell my bf!
now, going to the girls' part, yea i am very sick of those girls who would ONLY go out with "white" guys just because of that "trophy" feeling, and i feel that i have to make myself very clear that i am a girl who goes where her hearts leads, whatever the race is. and those models, oh dont even get me started (i am sure the NICO guys here know where i stand regarding this issue)

. i personally would NEVER do such degrading occupation, but oh well, more power to those who do.
and i wanna ask u a question. what do you think about the American born asians and Asia born asians? any differences? surely they are different, but do their attitudes toward interracial dating differ? or they are pretty much the same?
the reason i asked is that i do see differences, because they grew up in different cultures and traditions, take me for example, i am americanized, but i didnt grow up here, so i am different than a typical American born Asian girl in regards to dating. what do u think?