Drag Racing

[blazemk]

Hey everyone this will be my first topic on this forum. Ive been recommended to register here by a member of Nissan forum.

Well Ive done some racing with my car, but i yesterday i had a chance of racing with my friends Camaro RS the V6 300hp version.
We took off and his car was not much faster than mine i mean we were almost head to head his car was like a meter in front. In the second try however he used
the camaro M mode (it was an automatic) and basically he raped my car he was like a car and a half distance ahead and kept pulling away until
we passed 80mph after that the acceleration was the same in both cars.
But the wheel spin in my car at the start of the race is a major problem for me . I mean how can i take off fast without alot of wheel spin?

If i put it in drive and turn off traction control , it spins even though i try to avoid it , and if i keep traction control on the computer cuts off the power.
So how can i achieve the fastest take off with altima coupe? Do i put it in manual mode ? Personally i dont feel a difference of power.

Another thing.. his car is little bit more powerful , but when we swapped cars , when i put my foot down in the camaro i felt a much more powerful acceleration in camaro than in the coupe. Why is that?

[Zerep]

the 20 more hp and the actual automatic transmission will hit harder since its not as smooth as the cvt also those cars dyno higher then there rated hp with average parasitic lost taken to acount. rear will drive will take the line cause of the increased traction when accelerating

[marlin29311]

First off, please stop racing on public roads. It's against the law and you're going to get someone hurt.

Wheel spin is caused by you're tires not gripping - you have two solutions. Get better tires, or lower the car's center of gravity to allow for better weighting on the ground (ie, lower your car). Either that, or control your launch so that you aren't flooring the car right from the get go.

I've also noticed that the Altima and the CVT tend to dampen the inertial feeling of acceleration - I have no explanation for this though. Car's that are slower than mine tend to "pull" more than my car, even though it's faster. But like I said, I have no explanation for that.

[Ranga14]

First off, please stop racing on public roads. It's against the law and you're going to get someone hurt.

lol, saw this one coming, haha.

As for your issues, get better tires and better suspension if you want a better launch. As marlin29311 said, the CVT feels slower due to no shifting involved although in "theory" it should technically be faster due to the lack of shifting. You have a defiant advantage in weight over the Camero so that was the main reason you were close with him. I'm guessing the sport mode he had gave him a higher gear ratio which helped him beat you.

Also, did you guys try a run with you in manual mode? Did you try any from a roll?

[wade001]

Better tires and a suspension upgrade are good, but there are a few things u can do as well as is to help prevent breaking loss. do a burn out, it will heat up ur tires. and dropping the tire pressure helps a lot as well. when i go drag race i do both and it helps a lot as i can launch harder (yah, i know it's a 2.5. but i can still have fun with it lol)

[Hussain]

I've raced my 3.5se CVT over 1,000 times between street and tracks and have no issues with traction. I just recently lowered my car and got better tires. I was pulling off some really good times with stock suspension and bald stock tires (Nor Cal ppl saw how bad my tires were). idk why you're having issues with traction. at the track, if I launch it hard I get a little screech and it just goes. on the street if your not launching it hard you shouldnt have any issues with traction.... theirs the whole burn out before going idea but not too practical for the streets. best results are to turn off traction control, step on the brake and hold the brake down while stepping on the gas. you're RPMs will go up to like 2.5k or something and then when you want to go, just take your foot off the brake. the car will launch much harder and go much faster but you'll get a little wheel spin, just a little though (idk why you have problems with traction). oh ya and very important, JUST LEAVE IT IN "D"!!! It's been proven time and time again that just leaving it in "D" is faster then manual mode from a stop... from a roll it all depends.

[blazemk]

We didn't do any races from a roll , but i know that in manual mode in gear 1 altima flies when it has about 4k rpms.
We did a proper drag race from the start , and btw it was a deserted road in the night

I've raced my 3.5se CVT over 1,000 times between street and tracks and have no issues with traction. I just recently lowered my car and got better tires. I was pulling off some really good times with stock suspension and bald stock tires (Nor Cal ppl saw how bad my tires were). idk why you're having issues with traction. at the track, if I launch it hard I get a little screech and it just goes. on the street if your not launching it hard you shouldnt have any issues with traction.... theirs the whole burn out before going idea but not too practical for the streets. best results are to turn off traction control, step on the brake and hold the brake down while stepping on the gas. you're RPMs will go up to like 2.5k or something and then when you want to go, just take your foot off the brake. the car will launch much harder and go much faster but you'll get a little wheel spin, just a little though (idk why you have problems with traction). oh ya and very important, JUST LEAVE IT IN "D"!!! It's been proven time and time again that just leaving it in "D" is faster then manual mode from a stop... from a roll it all depends.

What do you mean step on the brake down while stepping the gas? Its a front wheel drive isn't that bad for the car?
So whats the point of making a manual mode in the car if its gna be slower than ordinary drive anyways ?

[wade001]

the purpose of stepping on the brake is to bring up ur rpms but still stay still. that way u can launch harder. all auto transmissions have a certain amount of slippage before it damages ur transmission. i dont know about 2.5k because i have a manual but there is a chance u can damage your transmission by doing that.

[jewelz505]

...everyone, Shudda picked the 6 Speed!! lol jkng. speaking of street racing, i got a few lined up for TONIGHT!!

[wade001]

lol, got u beat. went racing last night (middle of nowhere). won both of my races, even though my car and the other persons car are equal on paper as for the 1/4mile, first time by about 2 cars and the second by about 11/2 cars. going to the drag strip tomarrow. I''m pretty confident ill be sub 16s now that i figured out some things.

[wade001]

LMAO . not as long as i beat them.
and at least my car doesn't sound like a weed wacker like 80% of them

[jewelz505]

I thought I was in a Honda Civic forum in here

GTFO then slowpoke, u saw the title! lol joookes!!

hey, guna see IF i can get some video, unsure but we'll see.

[blazemk]

...everyone, Shudda picked the 6 Speed!! lol jkng. speaking of street racing, i got a few lined up for TONIGHT!!

Man CVT 3.5 altima is faster than MT 3.5 altima .. its the same power output but no shifts ..
Ok so from what u guys say i can use break and accelerator pressed at the same time .. ok i got that :P
Btw can anyone suggest some nice 19" rims and grille and front bumper?

[Robnaldo]

...everyone, Shudda picked the 6 Speed!! lol jkng. speaking of street racing, i got a few lined up for TONIGHT!!

Man CVT 3.5 altima is faster than MT 3.5 altima .. its the same power output but no shifts ..
Ok so from what u guys say i can use break and accelerator pressed at the same time .. ok i got that :P
Btw can anyone suggest some nice 19" rims and grille and front bumper?

Is there any truth to this?

[CoupeVQ35CVT]

b]Man CVT 3.5 altima is faster than MT 3.5 altima[/b] .. its the same power output but no shifts ..
Ok so from what u guys say i can use break and accelerator pressed at the same time .. ok i got that :P
Btw can anyone suggest some nice 19" rims and grille and front bumper?

Is there any truth to this?

Not sure. I think it's been discussed to death before that the CVT limits the power output to some degree through various methods/reasons, one of them being the parasitic loss due to all the torque converter mass added to everything else, and also the alleged engine power reduction when above 80 mph, common in either the 6MT or not, it does seem to make people think they are being held back because of it.

[CroatianMKM]

@ drag racing!
I remember when i turned 16...

[Hussain]

MT and CVT are very very close. reason is that every thread about a MT at the track starts out with "I spun through 1st and 2nd gear". CVT has no issues at all with traction off the line and then it doesnt shift. MT is faster then CVT but they cant get any traction off the line and some people shift slow. with a LSD and good tires, a MT should beat a CVT pretty badly (assuming the person can actually drive).

[jewelz505]

@ drag racing!
I remember when i turned 16...

..Has ur Croatian azz been to a track!?-Leme guess,SPECTATE?!!
i keeed-i keeed!!