Drag Racing a CA?

Post by **MN31323** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

I was wondering if the CA18DET had enough torque to effectively drag race and if anyone has dyno'ed a stock or almost stock ca roughly how much hp and tq do they put down stock?

Post by **themadscientist** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

http://www.paddy.co.jp/democar...g.wmv

does that answer your question?:D

Post by **float_6969** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

you can drag race anything....

Post by **TommyTheCat** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

They have drag civics...come on...

(nothing against civics, i do like em, but they have no tq *shrug*)

Post by **float_6969** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

I have a Vid of a Civic Hatch beating a Nice '02 Vette...

Post by **Trigger** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

oh the sweet sound of lovely music

Post by **captain nismo** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

ahhh. The garage paddy car. That car is insane! It dynoed at like 630rwhp!

Post by **float_6969** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

I love Nissans....

Post by **MN31323** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Ok I guess what I was saying is will a CA18DET be a decent drag engine stock with limited mods and with REALISTIC street modsAnd by the way, Honda builds the best N/A engines, period, no doubt in my mind and it will be hard to prove it to me that they don't. And hondas make very good drag engines because of supieror engineering and immense horsepower in lightweight engines mounted in some of the best possible positions for FF drag racing. Have you ever seen a pedestrian street stock engine from any other manufacter make 100+ hp per liter in naturally aspirated form?

Post by **Trigger** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

i think chevy has Honda beat in the NA engines...i know your talking about imports only but hell i had to say it...a 502 pushing 1200 hp would walk any civic any day...unless the civic had a jet engine

Post by **Wreckless** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

MN31323 wrote:Have you ever seen a pedestrian street stock engine from any other manufacter make 100+ hp per liter in naturally aspirated form?

Yes, Suzuki makes several, as does Ducati, Kawasaki, Yamaha, and Honda as well.

:rolleyez

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

honda doesnt make any of those motors, rich kids and aem do, and they blow up a lot, kinda like rotarys

Post by **r34 gtr** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

the yamaha r6 makes over 200hp/liter! and its rwd! (not to say honda doesnt make awesome bikes, i would trade my left nut for a cbr600rr). also, i do believe the 20v silver top 4age makes 170hp, and its a 1.6l, the new bmw m3 makes 333hp out of a 3.2l, and the nissan sr16ve n1 makes 197hp out of a 1.6l, also, the regular sr16ve makes 175hp and the sr20ve makes 205(ish). so, yes, i have "seen a pedestrian street stock engine from any other manufacturer make 100+hp per liter in naturally aspirated form. game, set, match. i rule!

- tim

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

disreguard my last post, i am quite drunk. after rereading it i realize what you where saying. but id still rather have my nissans. to see some cool bikes go to l12boys.com, be sure to sign the guestbook, we appreciate it

Post by **MN31323** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

I was talking about Cars, not motorcycles. Apparentely I haven't heard about the sr16ve(?) and lets get some of the stuff that i know straight

B16a= 160hpB16b= 180hpB18a(non-vtec)= 140hpB18c1= 172hpB18c5(95-98)= 185hpB18c5(99)= 200hpK20a2= 200F20c= 240hp

Yes the Honda s2000 engine makes 120hp/L i think that beats the sr16ve street engine (i'm assuming the N1 wasn't a stock street engine but correct me if i am wrong) which has 109hp/LI know chevy makes decent engines but I think the chevy 454 from my dad's old chevelle ss made about 450hp( I think but I might be wrong) thatcomes out to a very small number per liter then I was saying (or think i said) that honda makes do with a ridicously small displacement engines and makes lots of hp. Now argue so I can type more.

Post by **CA19DET** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

mn31323 I think you are argueing a lost cause on these boards, we are talking about CA's here..

and to answer your question, any engine will be a good drag race platform if it is in good condition and you dont mind thrashing the hell out the motor. the HP levels have been discussed many times about basec bolt on performance results...

what times you want to run? what power goals? what set up you thinking of running?

Post by **float_6969** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Honestly, nobody has every said in this thread that Honda makes bad motors. I will be the first to admit that they make some VERY good cars. But also open your horizons some. Honda also isn't the endall when it comes to naturally aspirated motors. I won't even get into F1 cars. Granted they aren't street driven, but that same technology is used on most bikes and some (toyota) motors. Anyway, lets get some helpful info out of this post. What are your goals? If we know that, then we can tell you what you are going to have to do to get there.

Post by **themadscientist** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

MN31323 wrote:And by the way, Honda builds the best N/A engines, period, no doubt in my mind and it will be hard to prove it to me that they don't. Have you ever seen a pedestrian street stock engine from any other manufacter make 100+ hp per liter in naturally aspirated form?

I would like to introduce you to a little continent called Europe. They have trivial little cars called BMWs and Mercedes that easily outclass Hondas cc for cc. I suggest you do some research before making blanket statements like that. There are other magazines on the rack besides Import Tuner:rolleyes

Post by **MN31323** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Oh weealy? i dddidid n't know that import tuner wasn't the only magazine on the rack

Seriously though i don't know much about mercedes but i know that atleast a few of them are supercharged anyway i'm gonna start a postin the general forum about best engines

Post by **Nismo1182** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Get your math straight MN, SR16VE 197HP / 1.6 = ~123 hp per liter.

Send that little equation to Honda and tell them to pick up the pace. Honda makes good motors but certainly not the best. Ferrari comes to mind. And like Madsci said, the Germans make awsome motors.

I used to be like you, my first car was a Civic and I used to think Hondas were the shiznit. Only thing they are good for is gas mileage and mild high performance economy engines.

The only thing I miss about my Civic was the 400 miles per tank

Post by **bijoux** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

100+ hp per liter N/A motor?Honda developed one almost 20 yrs ago.There was a point in time when only 3 car manufacturers could do that. Honda was one of them.

Post by **Guffed** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

eh...I saw my friends civic with a type R turbo'd swap kick the shat out of a supercharged vette.

Post by **illspace** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Are we arguing about NA, who cares about NA??? Obviously the inferior way to go fast, unless it has 8-10 cylinders.

Post by **Nathan** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Dont forget 12 cylinders for going fast NA

Post by **Nismo1182** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Id like to see that turbo type r swapped civic run a supercharged Z06 down here ;-)

Arguing about hp/liter is now rediculous. Technology has far advanced that people rather have a useful power band than a power band thats only useful near redline and people like torque :-)

Honda's B series and K series arent that bad, but arguing about hp/liter is a thing of the past. Even when a LS1 F-body can still put your swapped civic in its place.

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

Ok, here is my opinion about honda,

HONDA MAKES power by reducing the weight of the car , Thus , this make the car very unsafe, and I don't want to be in one.Have you seen the Type-R, I swore, you can poke the floor with your finger , thats how thin this car is.

Also honda sucks.

I Crashed my first 1990 300zx doing 180KM and I wasn't wearing my seat belt (not very smart I know) and still walked out away with out a scratch( the car was a right off, twisted frame)

And here is my opinion about German cars, THEy ARE WASTE OF LIFE TIME INVESTMENT, I used to like them, but know I hate them because they are junk and they way way over priced. (all what you hear is how good they look,but try to ask an owner of a german car, they spend more time in the shop getting repaired that on the road)

I am sure few of you will disagree with me and that is fine, the only car company that has proven to me that they could build safe cars, reliable and affordable, is N I S S A N. may be because I am a NISSAN MANIAC. which is fine with me.

Safety comes first, then power.

The only european cars that are up there, are pegeot and renult.

dam you still reading , go take a break boys. lol

PULSAR GTR

Post by **Nismo1182** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:48 pm

I couldnt agree with you more on the weight issue.

Im sick of rice boys saying a crx will do 12's with an H22. No freakin duh!

The car doesnt weigh much. Of course its going to be fast.

I rather have a full interior car that I can walk away from incase i get into an accident that runs 12's

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