Doya's 240

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Doya
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http://ezinearticles.com/?Ingredients-Y ... id=4024390 I not so sure if I like the idea of breathing in methanol though :whistle:


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motoman399
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i think its a different story when its burnt. kinda like cooking with alcohol lol

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Doya
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So it's ok then? lol I wonder if i could use isopropyl alcohol :gotme

On a side note, I got started on my intercooler setup today :yesnod I'm doing a top-mount setup. I got rid of the mechanical fan and installed two 12" electric fans. The intercooler sits right in between the motor and the radiator.

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i don't understand your logic of putting money into an engine you don't care about? unless you gots deep pockets then that's awesome

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confused9
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besides the Japanese writing on the windshield, i think your car looks pretty cool. i don't own an s14 but imo it looks unique

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Doya wrote:So it's ok then? lol I wonder if i could use isopropyl alcohol :gotme
No that's different stuff. I think that has an octane rating of 0. DO NOT use that. if your going to go pure go pure automotive grade methanol.
Doya wrote:On a side note, I got started on my intercooler setup today :yesnod I'm doing a top-mount setup. I got rid of the mechanical fan and installed two 12" electric fans. The intercooler sits right in between the motor and the radiator.
Again do not do that. You will be feeding ~200 deg air into the intercooler, so the air going into your engine probably wont be below 200-300deg. That's really bad.

The intercooler needs fresh air to feed cooler air to the engine then it takes in.

You can move the radiator back a little with custom brackets and put the intercooler where the radiator was and move the radiator back with the eletrical fans in place. I've seen that a few times and it works pretty well.

~Alex

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haha i like it minus the blue lights. I have the same shocker sticker just on the other side lol. Hey man its ur car, if you like it thats all that matters. I m just shocked that ur engine held up, i know if i leave my fans off at anything other than highway speeds and punch it, the temp shoots up. im runnin 17lbs, but i have an intercooler, larger oil pan, and koyo rad. Good luck with the build, keep up the uniqueness!

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Doya
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RustspecS13 wrote:
Doya wrote:So it's ok then? lol I wonder if i could use isopropyl alcohol :gotme
No that's different stuff. I think that has an octane rating of 0. DO NOT use that. if your going to go pure go pure automotive grade methanol.
Doya wrote:On a side note, I got started on my intercooler setup today :yesnod I'm doing a top-mount setup. I got rid of the mechanical fan and installed two 12" electric fans. The intercooler sits right in between the motor and the radiator.
Again do not do that. You will be feeding ~200 deg air into the intercooler, so the air going into your engine probably wont be below 200-300deg. That's really bad.

The intercooler needs fresh air to feed cooler air to the engine then it takes in.

You can move the radiator back a little with custom brackets and put the intercooler where the radiator was and move the radiator back with the eletrical fans in place. I've seen that a few times and it works pretty well.

~Alex
The intercooler sits right under the vent on my hood, so it'll get plenty of air.

Thanks for the info on the alcohol. I probably will go with pure methanol.
fabrisuzu wrote:haha i like it minus the blue lights. I have the same shocker sticker just on the other side lol. Hey man its ur car, if you like it thats all that matters. I m just shocked that ur engine held up, i know if i leave my fans off at anything other than highway speeds and punch it, the temp shoots up. im runnin 17lbs, but i have an intercooler, larger oil pan, and koyo rad. Good luck with the build, keep up the uniqueness!
Thanks a lot dude :biggrin:

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I kind of like it, probably quite a sleeper ticking time bomb. As for windshield washer fluid, I think the stuff you can buy in the 55g drums has almost no water in it. I won't be able to go to work fora few weeks to find out for sure though.

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ROFL now thats how you turbo a KA

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Crazy stuff man. I'd be surprised if half the boost you produced didnt go to boost leak. Easy fix though...

1. switch your blow through maf set up and put it before your turbo compressor. (much more accurate air reading since those mafs arent configured for blow through setup)

2. Stock NA intake piping isnt made to handle boost, over time youll get a leak somewhere from that thin plastic

3. Replace your bov setup. Ghetto rigging your blow off valve with silly putty to stock ribbed piping is yet another plea for boost leak.

4. There are plenty of cheap intercooler setups that would not only increase a few hp's.. but would instill longevity and increased performance from and your turbo/motor (also knocks the # 3 down since most setups will have a bov flange ready for the bov of your choice!)

Sorry if i sounded harsh. I just care about you... and your car. No ho-mo... lol

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CA18Magic wrote:Image

Crazy stuff man. I'd be surprised if half the boost you produced didnt go to boost leak. Easy fix though...

1. switch your blow through maf set up and put it before your turbo compressor. (much more accurate air reading since those mafs arent configured for blow through setup)

2. Stock NA intake piping isnt made to handle boost, over time youll get a leak somewhere from that thin plastic

3. Replace your bov setup. Ghetto rigging your blow off valve with silly putty to stock ribbed piping is yet another plea for boost leak.

4. There are plenty of cheap intercooler setups that would not only increase a few hp's.. but would instill longevity and increased performance from and your turbo/motor (also knocks the # 3 down since most setups will have a bov flange ready for the bov of your choice!)

Sorry if i sounded harsh. I just care about you... and your car. No ho-mo... lol
I know dude lol. Thats why I've already started on the intercooler setup. It should be done by this weekend. I'll post pics of it once I'm finished. Thanks for caring though :inoutgay: No but seriously, thanks. I appreciate any input.
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One more thing. I'm going to have the MAFS come off of the compressor housing like you said, but isn't there like a certain amount of space there has to be between the MAFS and the turbo. I thought it was like 18" or something. And doesn't there have to be a 90 deg. bend in there too. In not sure lol.

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Doya wrote:One more thing. I'm going to have the MAFS come off of the compressor housing like you said, but isn't there like a certain amount of space there has to be between the MAFS and the turbo. I thought it was like 18" or something. And doesn't there have to be a 90 deg. bend in there too. In not sure lol.
There is no, "in the books" answer for how far its supposed to be from the turbo. But I'm sure at least 12" is far enough from the compressor wheel and inaccurate turbulent air. As for the 90 deg bend? I'm not sure. Never hear of that. But most of us have 75/90 deg bends on our s13/s14's to place our maf/intake away from the motor and close to the fender anyways

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What I meant by that is the intercooler needs fresh aka COOL air.

The turbo takes in cool air, compresses it, and makes it hot. That hot air goes through an intercooler to cool down, if the intercooler is getting cooler air passed through it.

If you put the intercooler after the radiator, it gets got air fed to it. So you have hot air from the turbo, and hot air from the radiator going into the intercooler, it wont cool anything down and it will just shove lots of hot air into your engine, which means detonation and a dead engine.

I know its not that big a deal, and I was the same way. I had a sohc ka and my rb20. But its so much nicer when you have an extra running motor set waiting if anything happens to the rb.

~Alex

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Interesting...

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Intercooler behind the radiator doesn't work unless you have some crazy V mount setup.

You will be doing all that work for absolutely nothing if you continue to install it that way. Stop and listen to the guys here, they may be a bunch of misguided simpletons, but they at least know you're doing it wrong.

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pics of said intercooler??


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