DOT Approved HID Bulbs?

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So I read somewhere that if the HIDs are DOT approved its legal. However, this sounds pretty flawed considering that the housing should be completely different. But it does seem like a good excuse to tell the 5-0. Anyways, this site sells DOT approved bulbs (Are all legitimate HID sellers DOT approved?)

http://www.omnixautosports.com...u.htm


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Its not the bulb that has legality issues its the housing in which people are installing the conversion kits. The headlight housing should approved for HID output. I'm not sure why they would label a bulb as DOT approved, they sell an array of colors on that site.

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Yeah...It's pretty wicked any other input?

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itsjustbusiness wrote:So I read somewhere that if the HIDs are DOT approved its legal. However, this sounds pretty flawed considering that the housing should be completely different. But it does seem like a good excuse to tell the 5-0. Anyways, this site sells DOT approved bulbs (Are all legitimate HID sellers DOT approved?)

[url=http://www.omnixautosports.com[/url]
Hello, I just wanted to help you guys clear something up. I don't normally join forums, but I came across this one that was making a referance to our website.

It is a common misconception that "DOT Approved" means "Street Legal", in the same way that it is a common misconception that the higher the "Kelvin Temp" the "Brighter the Color".

Truth is as i'm sure you already know:

Higher K-Temp = Deeper color, and less visible light output.

On that note, please understand that contrary to common practices by devious HID dealers to pass off DOT Approved as "Street Legal", the truth is:

DOT Approved = Inspected and Approved to be safe to install in your vehicle.

This means that a truly DOT Approved HID Bulb is not going to cause dammage to your vehicle. It does NOT mean that it is street legal.

I hope that clears up any questions you have... Also, in order to not only stay safe, but avoid tickets, it is best to stick with a 6000K to 8000K lightoutput. Other colors resemble emergency vehicles too closely and sometimes may result in a ticket. Specialty colors are for show and sport only...

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Joe /ceoOmni X Auto Sports

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Nice. Thanks for clearing that up

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Omnixas,

I'm interested in buying your HID and ballasts. You have 2 different types of ballasts. Which would I need for the A/C and it says it only comes with one. Would I need to buy two because then that would be more expensive than a pair of McCullochs.

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I find it a bit funny that a member posts... and low and behold... minutes later... the site owner chimes in??? I smell a connection.....

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LongBeachCoupe wrote:I find it a bit funny that a member posts... and low and behold... minutes later... the site owner chimes in??? I smell a connection.....
You might be a bit over skeptical homeboy

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Hey man.. if you ask me... Bush Sr. started this war we are in... Big Brother is always watching.... The truth is out there... There is no such thing as OVER skeptical...

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itsjustbusiness wrote:Omnixas,

I'm interested in buying your HID and ballasts. You have 2 different types of ballasts. Which would I need for the A/C and it says it only comes with one. Would I need to buy two because then that would be more expensive than a pair of McCullochs.
Thanks for your interest, however, i didn't join the forum to sell product or to spam with sales offers. I hope you understand. There's nothing worse than getting on a forum for information and finding a bunch of dealers trying to sell something instead... Wouldn't you agree?

In order to keep the forum informational as it was intended, please feel free to contact us through the website or call and i'll be happy to assist you. I just don't want to disrespect the owners of this forum by striking deals here. You may call the number on our site, ask for Joe and i'll be more than happy to assist you with any questions you may have.
LongBeachCoupe wrote:I find it a bit funny that a member posts... and low and behold... minutes later... the site owner chimes in??? I smell a connection.....
As for me seeing this post "mr. skeptical" :-)... Anyone can do a "backlink" search on a website to find who links to a website. I was searching for a backlink from an article I wrote about hid vs. halogen, and came across this one in the process... I clicked it to see what it was, and noticed there was a misunderstanding about "DOT Approved". Being aggravated about dealers misleading the uninformed, I decided to join this forum to clear it up and set it straight. I don't want anyone being mislead about our products because of what other dealers have led people to believe.

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LBC and his conspiracy theories

Hey, did we really shoot down that spy sattelite or was it all a political scam to show the world what we're capable of? A few co-workers and I were just talking about this. Hmm...

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Hey Joe... just makin sure no one is stacking the deck.... I think you should make a full writeup on your kits and your policies...Many people come here for kit info.... and then go somewhere else... Stillen hooks up the group buy.. .and if you want more sales... strike a deal! They can be had on ebay for around $75 delivered.... let the sale begin!

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LongBeachCoupe wrote:Hey Joe... just makin sure no one is stacking the deck.... I think you should make a full writeup on your kits and your policies... Many people come here for kit info.... and then go somewhere else... Stillen hooks up the group buy.. .and if you want more sales... strike a deal! They can be had on ebay for around $75 delivered.... let the sale begin!


No problem, I completely understand. As for the writeup on our conversion kits and policies, what do you mean? Complete information on our kits can be found on our site, and as far as policies go, our legal staff has written a complete and thorough terms and policies which can also be found on our site.

Also, I honestly don't want to get started on the whole "Ebay" Kits subject, so please don't draw me into that discussion... It's a very touchy subject for not only myself, but our company as well.

Fact: If a kit is being sold for less than $150 retail or on sell, it is guaranteed, without a shadow of doubt made in China. I don't care what they tell you... they are cheap knockoffs. Yes they will work at first, but if you are lucky, premature burnout of the bulbs and short lifespan of ballasts will be the least of your worries. We have customers on a weekly basis that have had those cheaper kits melt their housings, fry their wiring and at times even the insane but actual explosion of ballasts causing damage to the vehicles computer systems - causing over $5000 in damage. And I'm sure you know as well as I do, if the automobiles computer gets messed up, the only place to get it fixed is at the dealership - and they are EXTREMELY pricey.

Not to mention, most of the so called "Warranties" on those kits are fake and or very difficult to claim in the event you need replacements. I have a customer who recently was told to send his entire kit back to one of those illegitimate dealers who then refused to send the replacement unless the customer filed a lawsuit against them - knowing that the customer most likely wouldn't. Needless to say, he was SOL and later became one of our customers.

By no means am I trying to "bash" other dealers, but we have been in the HID business for a little over 5 years and we've pretty much seen it all, heard it all, and know just about where every kit is truly made, regardless of what some dealers might want you to believe. It wouldn't be far fetched to say about 95% are made in China. Not where they claim they are made...

Just remember, that in the end, saving a little money in the name of "Cheap" does not necessarily mean you are not going to end up paying for it in the worst way down the line. That's why we sell premium, high quality ballasts and HID products. Our customers are satisfied, our products are safe and we never BS our clients. We have a REAL warranty that fully covers all of our HID products for one year, we are backed legally, our company is insured, and our customers are fully supported from the start. We even have some of the most knowledged tech support in the field to assist and trouble shoot through virtually any HID issue you can think of.

So comparing our products, service, support, and coverage to that of the all mighty "Cheap" is like comparing Mercedes to Saturns. We wouldn't walk in to a Mercedes dealership and say "Hey, there's a car with four doors, four wheels, a/c, and power windows just like this one down the street for a fraction of the cost, so how about a price match..."

Same situation here. Our products are not as cheap as the lower quality ones, but they are reliable, safe, and backed by a legitimate warranty and full tech support.

Either way, one thing is certain. There are enough cars out there for every HID dealer, so competition is not a problem. Some people will want to spend less money in the name of cheap, and some are willing to pay a little more for quality, reliability and support. For the later, we'll always be here.

Changing subject, the new Nissan Maxima... What do you think? I've been trying to decide on either that or the Chrysler 300. I wanted the Maxima for a while until I saw the 300 SRT8. Now I'm torn between the two and can't make up my mind.

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Hey, I was pretty close when I previously stated on this thread that probably over 90% of the kits out there are made in China

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lol oh generic and I say go with the Altima Coupe =)

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Sorry, no can do! The coupe is too small for me. I looked at it and almost bought it, but I kept coming back to the sedan. I love the size and comfort of my car. Heck, I can even fit like 4 bodies in the trunk, with my amp and sub!

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lol I was actually talking to omnixas. He was deciding between the maxima and the 300. lols

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Does anyone have a 2008 Nissan Altima?

I recently tried to help my neighbor install a conversion kit, but i swear that I have NEVER had so much trouble trying to get the housing out. It is next to impossible to get to the bulbs /sockets without removing the entire housing. However, it seems as though there is no way to get the housing out without having to remove the entire front end! Grrr.......

In the "do it yourself section" of the manual, it says "to do it yourself, please contact your local dealership". LOL!!!

Anyways, we finally gave up... I told him i'd get him another kit when he figured out how to install it, and I sold the kit to someone with a ford focus.

I wanted to get the kit in the Nissan to show you guys what it looks like, but no luck. Sorry. I can post pics of the before and after of the focus installation that the customer sent me if you like. I think i'm going to make them the winner of this months "gallery contest". Let me know.

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omnixas wrote:Does anyone have a 2008 Nissan Altima?

I recently tried to help my neighbor install a conversion kit, but i swear that I have NEVER had so much trouble trying to get the housing out. It is next to impossible to get to the bulbs /sockets without removing the entire housing. However, it seems as though there is no way to get the housing out without having to remove the entire front end! Grrr.......

In the "do it yourself section" of the manual, it says "to do it yourself, please contact your local dealership". LOL!!!

Anyways, we finally gave up... I told him i'd get him another kit when he figured out how to install it, and I sold the kit to someone with a ford focus.

I wanted to get the kit in the Nissan to show you guys what it looks like, but no luck. Sorry. I can post pics of the before and after of the focus installation that the customer sent me if you like. I think i'm going to make them the winner of this months "gallery contest". Let me know.

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Here's a how-to I did months back. The easiest way to access your bulbs is through the wheel well.

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Good deal. Never had to install a kit in a customers car who owned an Altima. I assume it's the same with the maxima's for future referance..?

Anyways, Here's some before and after pics of the 10000K kit. I'll be installing the 8000K kit in my neighbors Altima. I'll be sure and put before and after pics of it as well when he's ready. In the meantime, here's the before and after of our 10K HID conversion kit.













Customer stated that they installed the kit in a dark area with next to no other light source to try to see exactly how much difference in light output there was between the stock halogen bulbs and our HID Conversion kit... That way, light visibility is not misrepresented by sources other than the headlights.

Anyways, I think the picture they took came out great! And they will be winning the gallery contest this month. However, as you can see, the 10000K may be DOT approved, but that doesn't mean that the color is exactly street legal. This customers lights look great but they are obviously willing to take that risk of getting pulled over. 8000K and 6000K is prefferred for even brighter light visibility, while at the same time avoiding the risk of a ticket. When the 8000K kit is installed in my neighbors vehicle, i'll get some pictures of it and post it to show you what a more "legal" color should look like.

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Does anyone have any feedback on "KLIGHT" hid kits especially ones made for 2008 Altima Hybrids? They are supposedly made in Germany.

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omnixas wrote:
Hello, I just wanted to help you guys clear something up. I don't normally join forums, but I came across this one that was making a referance to our website.

It is a common misconception that "DOT Approved" means "Street Legal", in the same way that it is a common misconception that the higher the "Kelvin Temp" the "Brighter the Color".

Truth is as i'm sure you already know:

Higher K-Temp = Deeper color, and less visible light output.

On that note, please understand that contrary to common practices by devious HID dealers to pass off DOT Approved as "Street Legal", the truth is:

DOT Approved = Inspected and Approved to be safe to install in your vehicle.

This means that a truly DOT Approved HID Bulb is not going to cause dammage to your vehicle. It does NOT mean that it is street legal.

I hope that clears up any questions you have... Also, in order to not only stay safe, but avoid tickets, it is best to stick with a 6000K to 8000K lightoutput. Other colors resemble emergency vehicles too closely and sometimes may result in a ticket. Specialty colors are for show and sport only...

Kind Regards,

Joe /ceoOmni X Auto Sports
Someone help a newbie... so from my understanding the 3.5 coupe comes with 4300Ks? And 4300K would be brighter than 6000k?

Bottom line is I'd like as bright as possible and perhaps even with a nice shade/hue of blue. Anyway, I live in PA and the cops around here aren't that bad as long as you don't have a wing that looks like it's off a 747. Practicallity for me (visibility) is more important than show, but I'd still like to have me some fun.

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Anyone shed some light here?

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5000k would be ideal in your situation. Yeah, 4300 K has the greatest output or 3200 lumens. 5000k (3000 lumens) is warm-bright white light with a hint of blue. It should suit you well - both aesthetically and functionally


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