dont understand faq

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chmercer
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"Spring/shock adjustment guide

Increase front and rear rate - Ride harshness increases; tires may not follow bumps causing reduced traction. Roll resistance increases.

Decrease front and rear rate - Ride harshness decreases; tires follow bumps more effectively, possibly improving traction. Roll resistance decreases. "

so we should all get super soft lowrider drop springs? wtf?


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corn322
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yeah, I wondered about that too.

Meantime
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The FAQ is telling you the side effects of changing one variable, not necessarily both sides of the story - I think that's what is confusing people.

If I was, for example, to get stiffer springs and stronger, shorter dampers, I'd feel more response and feedback from the suspension, but I would also experience the tendency to get airborne over big bumps, and increased ride harshness, etc.

It's all a compromise. If you installed real soft springs and long-travel dampers, sure your ride harshness may be better, but you'd also be floating numbly like an old Cadillac, have tons of body roll and almost no road feel.

Am I making sense here? Maybe we should amend the FAQ.

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Exar-Kun
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its not saying that a stiffer shock leads to less grip, its just saying it could. stiffer spring/shock will decrease roll resistance, which, as was pointed out by ednni(Q45 tech) is an admirable goal, but taken to an extreme, will cause you to skate over bumps.

likewise, if the suspension is already too stiff(IE it doesnt roll/give enough) lessening it will increase roll, but may indeed improve traction on uneven surfaces.

make sense?-chet"its all relative"

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One thing you have to watch out for w/ coilover setups is bumps when cornering at high speeds. You will have wheels leave the ground, and when they come down they want to exert all their inertia at once which results in a skid.

With even a lowering spring / performance struts/shocks setup you really don't have the spring rate or the dampening power to create the same issue.

Basically if you get a coilover setup from Tein, JIC, whomever... just be careful on rough roads as you will slide around due to the car's inability to absorb the shock.

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Racing springs are for glass smooth race tracks.Stock car chassis are not designed strong or rigid enough to survive the impact that 3 times stiffer springs could produce.

The softer factory springs absorb the energy by compressing and transfering it to the shock absorber where it is changed to heat by the cycling motion.

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the faq made perfect sense to me.... :)


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