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fairzdrift
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Hey everyone im new to the ca forum but ive been on nico awile im getting a ca off of a friend of mine the engine has a spun bearing

Just curious i don't know a whole lot about these sorts of things but enough to know that that is bad of course what im curious of first of is what should i be looking for when that happens should i be worried about damage to the block ? the second thing is what rebuild kits are ok ? Would you guys recommend a particular website ? i found this one http://www.importperformancepa....html

there number 10 special looks nice can someone explain to me though if the stock bore is 83mm and they including 84mm bore pistons wouldant that bottom out i know its a retarded question probably but please dont flame to hard ive never rebuilt a engine before also were did you get your ca service books from ? ive been trying to find one Thanks i also am in need of a uncut ca harness a uncut DOHC harness from a ka and a turbo for the engine in good condition would prefer the sr20 upgrade also what aftermarket FPR do you recomend for a mid hp setup or less ? Thanks in advance for all your help on this ive found you guys realy helpfull in the past with things


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Link to the service manual

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200s...a.zip

I can't comment much more on the rest of your questions as I have never rebuilt an engine. I guess the kit from that website sounds appealing, but I once tried to buy from them the Gasket Set for my car and they were out of stock.

Maybe they have the parts available now so you could try calling them (and let us know )

Good luck.

Edit: for the FPR and some other usefull things check the stickies.zerothread/214558Nismo FPR + the corresponding gauge.

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thank you for the quick response that basically answered to of my big questions

i was mainly looking for like reviews or opinions on the parts in that kit if anyone knows anything lemme know or of a better deal or something like that my goals is 200 or so hp or maybe even 234 245 somewere in there im not looking for huge goals more so a reliable fun engine thats usually the state of things with me

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BUMB anyone have the answer on this rebuild kit ?? i dont know whats a quality one for the ca thanks

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I just bought one of their CA rebuild kits but a friend is rebuilding the engine. Calling them and speaking to them on the phone was a pain. They took a couple of days to get the parts together and they express shipped it. I ordered it Monday and recieved it Thursday. Not bad considering the parts were shipped to my military address.

The full rebuild kit was purchased and all in all in looks pretty good. The headgasket is from Wiseco, pauter rods, and 83.5mm pistons.

The best thing is to call them and see about availability.

All in all everything looks okay. I will be able to elaborate more in a couple of months (if you have that kind of time). The guy I bought this for is looking for 300 + hp. I guess we will see if it holds up okay.

By the way I have an uncut CA18DET harness.

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A spun bearing should not have damaged the block too much, it may have scored the crank jounals, but I would suggest to strip it all down and take the block + crank into an engineer to check out. You can visibly pre check it, you can also feel by running your hand around the bores to feel for score marks, and you can feel for scores on the journals.

84mm pistons are 40 thou oversize, they have three options (83 or std, 83.5 or 20 thou, 84 or 40 thou) to choose from, usualy if you have a scored bore you would bore the cylinders to one of the two oversize ones, depending on your application.

As an example, 84mm bore will increase your displacement from 1809cc to 1853cc. The kit on the ipp website looks ok, but I would definatley talk to them first.
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ok good to know my reasoning was sound on that umm if i change the displacement that means more power that would be cool considering the application for this car is drifting and ill take that ca harness how much do you want for it shipped to 49286 ? do you have a ecu as well or any other parts ??


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just to clew everyone in on my sitch

my friend has a ca18det with a spun bearing and a ca18de that is in need of gaskits but solid otherwise i want to combine the 2 motors essentially with a good rebuild kit to have one good engine looking for about 220 250 to start with head room how realistic is this goal ??

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So you want to make a CA18DE+T?

Or are you going to use the det block with the DE internals?

Dpending on which way you want to go, will determine what you need to buy etc...

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umm it depends on the condition are the blocks the same i was just trying to avoid paying for machine work on a messed up block if i could use the one from the de and strip them both and move everything over with the all new parts with the rebuild kit if that makes sense i guess im looking at how feasible that is if its not i may just take the ca18det of his hands and leave the n/a to save money

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The DE block has diffences to the DET block (JDM). One major difference is the DE block does not have the oil squirters that the DET has, you need to drill and tap the DE block for the swap over to oil squirters.

I think you will spend just as much money on machine work doing the DE+T as you would on rebuilding the DET.

If I were you, I would use the DET rather than the DE+T, it will be a much easier operation.

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I know someone who took a DET head and slapped it on a DE and made over 400whp with NA rods, no oil squirters and beat the bag out of it, like beat it like a ginger kid and its still alive till this day.

this was on an sr20de but its the same deal, they lack the same things as the ca18de....rods, and oil squirters, and they have slightly higher compression pistons as well.


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Yep there are quite a few DE+T conversions in australia, if you have a look at the nissansilvia.com website (bear in mind, take some of those posts with a grain of salt) you will find a fair few people who have performed this conversion.

It is doable, but if you are going to build it anyway I would stick with the DET setup, you can put higher compression pistons in if you like, but keep the oil squirters...

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i just want a running engine lol so i offered him some cash for the ca18det stuff we shall see if he bites my goals are not that huge i just want the correct so as i thought those pistons are oversized for the stock block ?? so machine the cylinders to fit em ?? sounds good hope i can get him to part out

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fairzdrift wrote:i just want a running engine lol so i offered him some cash for the ca18det stuff we shall see if he bites my goals are not that huge i just want the correct so as i thought those pistons are oversized for the stock block ?? so machine the cylinders to fit em ?? sounds good hope i can get him to part out
i just realized im retarded i noticed that they have many differant compressions listed in that set that you can pick from what compression should i be looking for i guess is my question realy for a street driven car

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go 8:5:1 or 9:1



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