Does this clip about stance make sense?

[pat93]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk6zeAgka5g

i read his problem and saw the clip, buthonesty, i don't understand it and can't judge if what he trying to say is make sense or really isa problem.

Here is what he describe his clip"Stance Coilovers refuse to rotate at the ball joint in the camber plate. Instead they rotate the threaded body around the piston, causing many problems."

I beg coilovers veterans in here pls throw some 0.02dollar.

[94_240sx]

Okay, I hear exact same noise when I make turns. I think I'm having the same problem. Should I lube up the ball joint or something? It's pretty annoying.

[E7-S14]

i literally watched that video over and over trying to make an assumption of whats wrong..

what hes doing is twisting the coilover while moving it to side to side..he say that the threaded cylinder is rotating around the shock(which it looks like it is) and not at the ball joint

i think he assumes that the coilover is supposed to spin at the ball joint.. which it isnt..(i think)when he moves it it moves side to side just fine..

my solution would be to lube the ball joint..(this conclusion is from limited experience and logic.)

[94_240sx]

One drop of WD-40 on pillow ball joint fixed the problem. Noise is completely gone now.

[ddgsxr504]

what hes doing is twisting the coilover while moving it to side to side..he say that the threaded cylinder is rotating around the shock(which it looks like it is) and not at the ball joint

i think he assumes that the coilover is supposed to spin at the ball joint.. which it isnt..(i think)when he moves it it moves side to side just fine..

Technically the coilover is supposed to spin at the ball joint, how else would it spin when you turn the wheel?

[pat93]

Finally, I've the source of this clip.I have been posted in zilvia.net. There are many stance users found the same problem. Seemingly, it turn to be a malfunction of camber platewhich is supposed to be full circle rather than 2/3 circle.

THis really cast doubt on the stance product.Should i still going to buy it or should i change my route tocusco zero-1 or greddy.

[nieko]

um i dont understand how that would have any affect on anything? if it was 2/3 of a circle or a full circle? someone care to explain? i just received mine and they have the 2/3 circle

[seejaytoo]

i assume it would just be weaker, either way it seems like their machining specs are off, and a quality control issue as i figure qc would catch those things, or maybe thats how its sposed to be dunno i dont have stances, but it does seem odd

[nieko]

anyone have any other opions on this? or facts? im installing today i guess ill see if theyre working or not =\

[AceInhole]

i assume it would just be weaker, either way it seems like their machining specs are off, and a quality control issue as i figure qc would catch those things, or maybe thats how its sposed to be dunno i dont have stances, but it does seem odd

It has nothing to do with the design of the plate itself. It's more or less the distinguishing characteristic between plates that have a better spherical bearing vs ones that have a defective bearing (that does not rotate easily).

The strut should rotate at the upper mount. Rotating the strut body around the shaft itself promotes unnecessary wear on the piston and shaft seals.

[94_240sx]

I have something for you guys. I emailed Stance regarding this noise and they sent me a pair of new camber plate. Half moon shape one is new plate that they sent me. Flat area is supposed to face the motor. According to Stance, current ones that on my car are defective. Half moon one should have better bearing. Good thing that I haven't done alignment yet. I'll try to replace them this weekend.
Modified by 94_240sx at 11:20 AM 10/12/2007

[nieko]

oh ok good mine came with the new ones like that

[pat93]

I thought this thread is dead already.I am keeping my eyes on the thread at zilvia.net about the malfunction ofthose plates. Those people also get the new plates from stance as well.It's like 6 pages thread; I saw at least one guy trying so hard to fix this thing in every possible way until he gave up. This fact stop me from buying stance really. I wish I was in the time that Stance was so good as people in this forum praise them.

[nieko]

im pretty sure they fixed everything now in the new shipments. enjuku got a new container of them about 2 weeks ago. (thats where i ordered them from) so far so good? but then again not completely done adjusting everything and driving

[94_240sx]

oh ok good mine came with the new ones like that

It's not about shape of the plate. It's about the ball bearing. If you got them recently, I'm positive you got the good ones.

[m tr4nch]

If you got them recently, I'm positive you got the good ones.

wrong.. i got mine last week directly from stance and they have the messed up mounts check out my posts in the thread on zilvia.. its 9 pages now (mine are on pg 9)

[94_240sx]

wrong.. i got mine last week directly from stance and they have the messed up mounts check out my posts in the thread on zilvia.. its 9 pages now (mine are on pg 9)

Well, I know what you've been going through. Sorry about that. My new plates didn't work, so they shipped out another set yesterday. They took them out of coilovers from most recent batch and guaranteed that those plates are good.

[m tr4nch]

Well, I know what you've been going through. Sorry about that. My new plates didn't work, so they shipped out another set yesterday. They took them out of coilovers from most recent batch and guaranteed that those plates are good.

yeah its retarted.. we'll see what happens though

[nieko]

so like... i think i did get the wrong plates lol so what do you do to get new ones? just call and say i got the wrong ones? and then thats it they ship new ones?

[94_240sx]

so like... i think i did get the wrong plates lol so what do you do to get new ones? just call and say i got the wrong ones? and then thats it they ship new ones?

Call this number and they will ship out new plates right away.(847) 290-1568

Mine got fixed. When I turn steering wheel, I hear no noise and both nuts on the top mounts turn also.

[nieko]

do i have to ship the other plates back first? or will they ship them and then i just ike throw the old ones away or something? lol thanks for the number though im gunn call after school.

[94_240sx]

do i have to ship the other plates back first? or will they ship them and then i just ike throw the old ones away or something? lol thanks for the number though im gunn call after school.

Don't worry about your old ones. They will send you a new set. Some batches had a problem, but I gotta give credit to their customer service. Overnight delivery was offered, but I chose Ground. Just call them and they will take care of you.

[nieko]

ok cool, im calling them at 2 2morrow so how long did it take u to get them ground shipping? just wondering lol

[94_240sx]

I got them in 3 days.

[nieko]

nice, i cant wait to have non glung glung noises and clunk clunks and all that stuff ahha

[Justin VanWinkle]

Yep, I just called Stance myself - the guy said they made one bad batch.

He said it doesn't harm performance, and it's not dangerous in any way at all...

He said new camber plates will show up at my house in approx. 1 week

You boys know what Quality Control is all about???

[Bosrudorfer]

... my KTS don't have this problem. Should have bought quality boys

[nieko]

you say stance isnt quality because they made a mistake? and they fix it instantly when you call them? hmm

[AceInhole]

you say stance isnt quality because they made a mistake? and they fix it instantly when you call them? hmm

Good customer service helps to make up for a poor quality product, but does not necessarily replace it.

[nieko]

each opinon is your own but i personally like stance, i think they make a great product just a one flaw that is easily fixed if u call them so the good service kinda does make up for poor quality product