Does Iphone 3G connect with EX35's bluetooth automatically?

Discussion of Infiniti's amazing (and underrated) sport-luxury crossovers, the EX35 and EX37. For 2014, the EX series will be renamed QX50, in line with Ininfiit's new naming conventions.
shentong
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Hi, I had a motorola cell which automatically connected with the car's bluetooth system as soon as I enter the car without asking. My previous SamSung phone would only connect AFTER I confirmed "Woud you like to connect with My-Car now" from the phone EVERY time!! which was very annoying.

Now I"m getting an Iphone 3G and wonder if anyone here knows how it connects after being paired to the car. Will it automatically activate "My-Car" every time without asking? Please say YES!

Thanks.


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Punjab
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their is only need to pair the phone once, after that the phone will connect to car when you enter each time, no interaction other than having blutooth set to on, on the iphone.

I have the Iphone works great, no problems, battery is not effected any differently

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Thanks, Punjab. That's good to know!

btw, I read some threads here stating that the ipod cable in EX 35 doesn't charge Iphone 3G but will charge the original Iphone? Is yours the 3G?

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Punjab
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yes the ipod connector in the car will NOT charge the iphone 3g or the new Ipods, this is due to the elimination of the firewire pins on the new modles.

Some third party manufacturers used the firewire pins to power and charger ipods/iphones.

The Ipods/Iphones not are powered through USB side of the pins.

Good news is that their are severl accesories that will fix this issue.

My recomendation is this brand, this is what i will use when i get around to it.

Scosche Passport

http://www.scosche.com/products/productID/1667

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Thank you so much! I'll look into it!


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Cheers,David

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Also, instead of using the Ipod cable/dock + adapter in EX35, can I simply use the cigarette lighter + those Iphone 3G car chargers on the market (which are much cheaper )?

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The iPhone 3g has very limited Bluetooth options if you have the settings correct when setting it up and have My-Car set as a trusted connection in your phone as well as setting the primary phone in the car. The reason you had to verify your phone every time was a setting inside your old/current phone.

Hey Punjab quick question or anyone who uses the Scosche Passport does that allow you to use the iPod function of the audio unit with the newer generation iPods. I get this question frequently at work and have pointed people towards the Schosche but I am unable to answer that question. Thanks

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Hey guys, a big problem I have with my iPhone 3G and the EX35's bluetooth is with the visual voicemail. My old car with an aftermarket bluetooth setup used to play the voicemail over my bluetoot system. Now when I play a voicemail it doesn't work. My iPhone shows teh audio source being the EX35 but the car does not respond. Anyone figure out how to fix this?

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Apple does not integrate well with the sourced software in the AV control unit. At this point there is no fix for this. As the very proud owner of a Parrot system I can relate to the software tweeks available to the aftermarket companies.

From the Infiniti Bluetooth site (HERE) even the first gen iPhone had very limited capabilities. One would assume given the factory installed iPod port having the latest software and capabilites would be a given but it is not the case, at this time at least. This is the first run of Infinitis that come with any sort of dedicated input like this.

I don't get why they are not using a usb input. I use a Zune and feel that having one dedicated function that requires the purchase and use of a non supplied peripheral and will not work with other similar devices.

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Punjab
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SteveTheTech, I personally have not used the the scosche passport, however from what i am aware all functions are retained, all the adapter does is allow charging and send the proper resistance and authentication codes needed for the Iphone 3g

Apple has become very greedy in requiring not only a resistance code but an hardware authentication handshake.

This is why Iphone (first gen ) and Iphone 3g are not 100% compatible with accessories. The Iphone 3g, ipod touch 2gen and new nano all have this new verification handshake.

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Mhafez, yes their is a way to hear voicemail (not great but it works)

You must use handset, and then manually select the audio play back source from the voicemail tab...

Select Voicemail-> select audio (choose your car)-> play voicemail.

this will play through vehicle (it will not play through vehicle just by selecting the play button on the voicemail)

Treat it as if you wished to use speaker phone.

Its not the best but its a solution Hopefully Iphone OS 3.0 will bring a remedy,

OS 3.0 is said to allow stereo blutooth and enhanced accessory control, it is a month or two away.... they say mid june.

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Thanks for taking time to reply, Punjab.

So why aren't EX35 people using the cigarette lighter to charge 3G in the car? Is there any disadvantage to do that? Or is it because as you say, 3G might not work with a lot of accessaries on the market even thouth people say it should? Then is the one from Apple safe to use?


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I have my Blackberry set to work as soon as I turn the iginition on. My wife's IPhone is set as a second priority so that when we are both in the EX, my phone is bluetoothed but not hers. Well it does not work ! The IPhone always takes over and shuts the BB even though the BB is on top of the priority setting ! It has even gone further by cancelling my BB pairing a couple of times. Same thing happens in my 09 GTR. I do not like IPhones !!

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Sorry for your trouble, man. --- However that means Iphone is pretty powerful! so, for someone who prefers a 1st priority for Iphone in EX35, I guess it's just right for me!

Thanks for the info, everyone. I did buy the phone and it does connect very spontaneously after pairing.

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Punjab
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If you charge with cigarette lighter then you can not access ipod...

23Gtr

It seems that its software problem with you bb, perhaps upgrage the os..

I am going to speculate and say that the Iphone may be seing the BB as trying to pair with it since its is always on auto discovery,

I am not sure but i was under the assumption that multiple phones can actively be paired simultaneously.

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Punjab wrote:I am not sure but i was under the assumption that multiple phones can actively be paired simultaneously.
I don't believe simultaneous pairing with multiple devices is possible with this BlueTooth implementation.

Cheers,David

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Good call dividedhighw,

You are right only one can be paired at a time with the choice of 5 to be registered.


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dividedhighw wrote:
I don't believe simultaneous pairing with multiple devices is possible with this BlueTooth implementation.

Cheers,David
I do not mean that both phones can be "bluetooothed-connected" simultaneously.The fact that the EX program gives you the choice for priority when more than one phone is paired, tells me that the BB should be the one connected if it is set on top and both phones are in the car. no ?


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Punjab
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You are correct.

Page 4-77 in manual

Priority ChangeUse this command to change the prioritylevel of the active phone.The priority level determines which phonewill be connected to the system when morethan one paired BluetoothT phone is in thevehicle.The system states the priority level of theactive phone and asks for a new prioritylevel (1, 2, 3, 4, 5).If the new priority level is already being usedfor another phone, the two phones will swappriority levels.For example, if the current priority levels are:Priority Level 1 = Phone APriority Level 2 = Phone BPriority Level 3 = Phone Cand you change the priority level of Phone Cto Level 1, then:Priority Level 1 = Phone CPriority Level 2 = Phone BPriority Level 3 = Phone A

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Thanks Punjab !Unfortunately, it looks like the IPhone screws up this option. It does not accept to be anything less than nr.1 on the priority set up and, as I said earlier, has even on occasion "unpaired" the BB when it is paired and brought into the car.

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23GTR wrote:I do not mean that both phones can be "bluetooothed-connected" simultaneously.
Just to be clear, I was answering Punjab, NOT commenting on your specific lament. Punjab posted that he "was under the assumption that multiple phones can actively be paired simultaneously.", and I had quoted this in my reply.
23GTR wrote:The fact that the EX program gives you the choice for priority when more than one phone is paired, tells me that the BB should be the one connected if it is set on top and both phones are in the car. no ?
I agree completely.

If I were you, I'd try reversing the configured order, just in case the implementer didn't understand that Priority 1 is considered higher than Priority 2, etc. (What have you got to lose?)

Cheers,David

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I just bought a 2008 EX 35 last night. I have a 3g I phone. It paired with no problems however I can not hear anything when I make a call nor do I see it update my phone book in the car. I assume I am doing something wrong. I had my brother call me... the car rang... when I answered the call using the steering wheel I could not hear my brother nor could he hear me. I did check it is not on mute and I cranked the volume all the way up...still cant hear. Can anyone help me here? thanks!

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d99gr81 wrote:I just bought a 2008 EX 35 last night. I have a 3g I phone. It paired with no problems however I can not hear anything when I make a call nor do I see it update my phone book in the car. I assume I am doing something wrong. I had my brother call me... the car rang... when I answered the call using the steering wheel I could not hear my brother nor could he hear me. I did check it is not on mute and I cranked the volume all the way up...still cant hear. Can anyone help me here? thanks!
The Infiniti's software requires a phone that can "send" the contacts data over Bluetooth. By that I mean, a phone that has a built-in function that you access on the phone to tell it to send the information over. Very few mobile phones have this feature and the iPhone isn't one of them. So, the only way to build a contacts list on the Infiniti is to do so manually, one entry at a time.

Also, FWIW, the EX35 only has space for 40 entries. I have FAR more than that in my iPhone so an automatic transfer wouldn't work very well anyway. I'd only get A through K.

Sorry that I can't help with the not hearing the voice on either end. That one has me baffled.

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Thanks for the reply. Anyone have the 3g I phone that works in their car as far as making and receiving calls? The call answers i cant hear them and they cant hear me.

Thanks

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Mark Booth
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My original iPhone and my iPhone 3G both work perfectly with my EX35 hands free for calls. I can hear the other party, and they can hear me just fine. I've done this hundreds of times in the 17 months I've owned the EX35. An iPhone is the ONLY cell phone I've ever used with my EX35.

One other thought.... When you are connected to the car via Bluetooth during a call, you do know that you can adjust the "Bluetooth" volume with the iPhone, right? During a call, hold your iPhone in your hand and press the volume up button on the side of the phone. You'll see that it is adjusting the Bluetooth volume, not the speaker or ringer volume. Perhaps your Bluetooth volume is set to zero and that's preventing you from hearing the other party?

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I did not know that. I will have to run out to the car ina few and give that a shot. I will let you know! THanks!

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Well thanks for the try but still no go. Blue tooth volume was half way but I maxed it out and I still can not hear. The call connects and if I switch it off of hands free the call is there. I have no clue why and its a big bummer. Is there some setting in the car? UGH, so frustrating. My garage door wont train into the mirror either after they guy was like its easy. I have tried that as well like ten times to no avail. Had the car one day and all ready frustrated. Thanks for you help, If anyone else has any ideas I would appreciate it...thanks.

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Punjab
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For the Iphone, I would do a complete restore on the phone to make sure that all firmware and software is up to date.

also their are a number of blutooth settings on the car.. incoming and out going volume/gain

The garage door problem could be... If its a newer gene with the big button style remote..

Train the garage door to the smaller button then use the smaller button to train the car.. this is a problem with the new code hopping system that gene has been using..

*** make sure to find out which type of code hopping system you have it changes the way to train the car..

Hope this helps...


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Well I tried again. I cant find any blue tooth settings on the car itself. I can use the volume knob that shows it turning phone up but I just cant hear. I go back to dealership tonight to finish up everything I will ask but I have a bad feeling they wont have a clue. I forget the name of my garage door opener but its not gene. so not sure. ahhh.... I just want things to work. Thanks for the help. I wish I could figure this out. they haven't given me my manuals yet so maybe something in there will help.


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