It is a 5sp, and the ecu has a sticker that says "Blitz" (or something like it...)Yellow4g63 wrote:Don't use the data scan screen to adjust your tps. Break out the volt meter and set it to .48. Is the ECU in your car Auto or 5speed? Base timing should be set at 15 or 20 depending on the ecu. Check your fuel psi and set it to stock which I forget it is but a search should locate that. If it's idling too high adjust the idle air valve and check for boost leaks.
Your fuel pressure is way too high. it should be like 42psi with the vacuum hose off. pop the top on your ecu it might have a different than stock program on it. Also if ur 02 sensor is bad usually it will show up when you check for the engine codes, But if it's not moving and just stays still then it could be dead. Pick up a wideband the narrow band stock 02 sensor shouldn't be trusted. You can should be able to put the car into timing mode by just unplugging the tps and starting the car after it's warmed up.s13_240_rb20 wrote:It is a 5sp, and the ecu has a sticker that says "Blitz" (or something like it...)Yellow4g63 wrote:Don't use the data scan screen to adjust your tps. Break out the volt meter and set it to .48. Is the ECU in your car Auto or 5speed? Base timing should be set at 15 or 20 depending on the ecu. Check your fuel psi and set it to stock which I forget it is but a search should locate that. If it's idling too high adjust the idle air valve and check for boost leaks.
I don't have a timing light. Is there a way I can set the timing correctly by using datascan? If so, should the engine be off or idling, and what should the datascan timing reading be?
I will do that on the psi and tps...psi is typically 37/44, depending on vaccuum or not. I have noticed that my fuel pressure is going crazy on me, unless my cheap gauge/sensor are just that horrible. I can set f/p by using the gauge and within two days, I look at the gauge and f/p is up around 65psi. When I give it full throttle, my f/p jumps about 15-20 psi no matter what I have it set to.....bad gauge/sensor or is something adjusting my vaccuum (or anything) and resulting in higher fuel pressure???
I have spent way too long adjusting one sensor to make up for another side-symptom...I have been "robbing peter to pay paul" and now I have to set it all straight again.....
Also, you should not try to use my a/f ratio reading in my datascan pics....it doesn't ever move for some reason. Could a bad o2 sensor result in such oddball performance and high/unpredictable fuel pressure???
--TJ
Like I said, everytime I set my fuel pressure to 37/44psi it works its way back up to 60/65 in a couple days and I don't know whyYellow4g63 wrote: Your fuel pressure is way too high. ....... You can should be able to put the car into timing mode by just unplugging the tps and starting the car after it's warmed up.
OK, so here is a question sooo dumb that you could easily quote it as your signature and make it haunt me forever: what is the difference between the "timing" and the "ignition timing"? And how are they related, because I have always just treated them like they were the same thing....when I adjusted the CAS I always assumed that I was actually adjusting the true "timing"....Yellow4g63 wrote:Your FPR is prob bad if it keeps climbing up like that. The Datascan timing display won't be the right mechanical timing best bet is to borrow a timing gun. Turning the CAS will advances or retard the ignition timing.
Until then: My datascan "ignition timing" sits at 16 (no matter the position of the CAS) when the engine is off. If I remember correctly, it jumps to about 35 when the engine is idling and (??) is adjustable by adjusting the CAS (??). The datascan "ignition timing" increases and decreases with the throttle. Does anyone have a healthy stock RB20DET running datascan that can tell me their readings under those conditions: off, idling, and applying throttle???Joe wrote:ignition timing and mechanical timing are completely different
you cannot "counter act" mechanical timing errors. this is when a belt skips a tooth, or with adjustable cam gears the cam timing is incorrect.
ignition timing MUST be set with a timing light. period.
your FPR sounds like its junk if the pressure randomly rises
base timing and the timing you see in your datascan can be completely different also. THIS IS WHY YOU MUST USE A TIMING LIGHT TO SET YOUR BASE IGNITION TIMING ON RB ENGINES. your timing will move CONSTANTLY while modulating the throttle so stop worrying that it changes.s13_240_rb20 wrote:Thanks for the lessons, everyone!! I will check my mechanical timing with a timing light whenever the opportunity arises for a friend to come teach me one day..
Until then: My datascan "ignition timing" sits at 16 (no matter the position of the CAS) when the engine is off. If I remember correctly, it jumps to about 35 when the engine is idling and (??) is adjustable by adjusting the CAS (??). The datascan "ignition timing" increases and decreases with the throttle. Does anyone have a healthy stock RB20DET running datascan that can tell me their readings under those conditions: off, idling, and applying throttle???Joe wrote:ignition timing and mechanical timing are completely different
you cannot "counter act" mechanical timing errors. this is when a belt skips a tooth, or with adjustable cam gears the cam timing is incorrect.
ignition timing MUST be set with a timing light. period.
your FPR sounds like its junk if the pressure randomly rises
As for my Fuel pressure: The fpr is supposedly a Nismo part so I am most likely to trust it. However my FP sensor/gauge setup is offbrand and my fuel pump is the weak little 4cyl hardbody pump. This leads me to believe that my sensor/gauge setup is not registering correctly b/c I lose so much power that the truck barely moves without stalling when the fuel pressure is set at 37/42 tonight.... It became so obvious to me tonight that my gauge is lying and that my fuel pump just isn't even keeping up with an untuned, low-power RB20DET, even though it never showed a sign of dropping fuel pressure.
Is there any possible explanation for my FP gauge NOT dropping when I am obviously running low on FP? Is there a certain amount of vaccuum that is constantly pulled through the fuel line when the engine is running, even if the pump isn't keeping up?
I know these are silly questions, but I miss the power I had when the RB20 was in my 240... I just don't have much time / money to spend on this project and get frustrated when I don't even know where to start... So I am starting by putting in my fuel pump upgrade and trying to get someone to do my timing.
Anyone know some simple upgrades that will increase torque or low-boost acceleration?? It sucks having to reach full boost to feel what little power I am making right now...
--TJ