Does anyone have a ka24de which produces 200+ HP and/or 200+ torque??

Post by **doctorj240** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

He clearly said that he probably makes 160 hp to the wheels with those mods he listed plus JWT ECU and port and polish. Not 200.

Post by **technoman** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

Zebrahead wrote:get what HP? If you think cams/I/H/E will get you to 200rwhp, you are sadly mistaken, you'd be more like 150 to the wheels. Unless you've got stuff on your car already . . .

Nick.

You cant see my dyno sheet??? A ka stock pushes around 125hp to the wheels. A stock auto 240sx ka motor pushes around 120 hp to the wheels. In the dyno sheet above I have went from 125hp stock to 150hp to the wheels with cams,intake,header and ehxaust. thats 25hp more to the wheels.

I still plan to turbo my KA "one day ". The only thing I can't use is my Hotshot header. My Intake ill cut down and use it as a turbo intake because its 3 inches thick.

Post by **ESPER** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

how do you set the cams and what does each setting do and what settings are the best?? and finally, technoman what settings are your cams at??

Post by **technoman** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

ESPER wrote:how do you set the cams and what does each setting do and what settings are the best?? and finally, technoman what settings are your cams at??

What do you mean by settings?

Post by **ESPER** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

arent the cams adjustable??

Post by **technoman** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

No the KA cams are not adjustable. I think you can buy adjustable cam sprokets from JWT. I wish i had some so I could retard the cams to bring up my top end. in the dyno sheet you can see my HP drop off at 5700 rpms. with adjustable sprokets it would peak out higher. And make more HP

Post by **MarkEmark** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

I thought you just needed a flatblade screwdriver, then you take off your oil cap, stick the screwdriver in and screw the two little screws counterclockwise to get the max hp???

JK:pface

Post by **technoman** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

i wish it was that easy....

Post by **crazy2002mexican** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

cai may hurt your top end but overall its better than running short ram

Post by **irax** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

unless its a shortram cold air intake... i wouldnt get any of those cold pipe intakes that are the same shape as the plastic pipe, id rather make a pipe that goes from the passenger tirewell..

some times Home Depot upgrades are just that much better..

Post by **Projex240** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

old post, but ill bring it back to the top. The power levels on all motor will vary wildly on the dyno. Dyno operators will sometimes not put enough load on the motor, which will cause the numbers to be lower. A good operator will hit full throttle at a lower rpm to load the motor better, and produce a better, and more accurate number. Some operators will let the motor rev to what they believe to be the beginning of the "power band" and then hit it giving the car the sound and what looks to be a good run. However, at that point the VE is not at 90% or better (what the norm is for a stock internal motor). Increasing the VE is done by better exhausts (scaveging effect) and intakes, etc. But overall, wthout loading the motor, the power level will drop from the numbers it should or has put down in the past. Anyone ever dynoed in 3rd gear as opposed to 4th gear? If you dyno in third you may get a better number sometimes due tot he fatc the car will rev faster and thus will be "floored" sonner in the rpms by the operator. Dyno in third once, hitting the throttle at a certain rpm , then repeat in 4th and watch teh results. Its intersting the way motors react to different circumstances.

-Josh

Post by **mxd6** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

With all the new 4's and 6'es coming into the picture, the KA24DE is an old boat anchor to say the least. The money most of us have to spend to get another 60HP is getting ridiculous.My 97 240 is getting a new "high performance" (non turbo) rebuild next year and the only thing left out is work on the ECU - JWT does not have one developed for the 97/98.I have the Hotshot headers and HKS High Power exhaust already installed and functional. The complete set of Unorthadox Pulleys sits in the closet waiting for the "big" install.They builder said I should get 210HP out of the engine with pump gas. All the tricks listed in this forum are being used. The clutch with be 4 puck and will press up against the lightened flywheel.Add in the headers, pulleys and exhaust and maybe 225HP.I will confirm after the dyno.For the money I get a new engine.Cost - 5k completeYes it was my choice to have the no problem daily driver.

Now getting back to all these new cars coming out with more HP and lighter weight. My 240 looks mean and everyone in their "more powerful" car wants to race (they see the big SS can on the back....or is it the slick 17' wheels with Yokohama tires.....or maybe the red color?).Anyway, there are some nice FAST, cheap cars being offered that will kick your ***. I had this Hyundai Tiburon race me down HWY59 and lose control at the 610 Loop....he nearly crashed but that was after he passed me. Good thing he was OK and I flew by him......better driver! This type of **** must stop!Yes he has a 6, but our cars are under powered!!If you want to get even and still keep the AC, the only think is turbo KA or SR.I would love to do the RB26DETT and "praise the Lord".Like everyone else, only the money is needed.Be good.

Post by **mackdaddy240** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

mxd6 wrote:They builder said I should get 210HP out of the engine with pump gas. All the tricks listed in this forum are being used. The clutch with be 4 puck and will press up against the lightened flywheel.Add in the headers, pulleys and exhaust and maybe 225HP.Be good.

225 with intake, exhaust,light flywheel, and pulleys? I dont think you could even get 225 at the fly with that and a JWT ecu. maybe if you added 11.6 to 1 compression pistons to the list you might get around 220 at the fly. But I've never heard of anyone getting anymore then that. Im running the same setup with HC and am waiting to dyno it I'll tell ya what it really does someday.

Post by **turboICE** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

Anyone know a decent builder/machine shop around the greater NYC area?

Post by **mxd6** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

mackdaddy240 Thanks for your input.I hope to dyno the car after my rebuilt but the shortage of funds at the moment will mean I have to wait longer than expected now.The rebore and pistons could take it to 2.5 liter and with the valves done, who knows.Keep in touch and let us know how you make out.

All the best and good luck!

Post by **irax** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

you know i was thinking of deboring it and destroking it to 2.2 or 2.0 and let it rev to 12k using the internals from a ka20de from the EDM vans...

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

putting down 200whp should be all the more easier if/when the aem ems is released.

-demetrius

Post by **irax** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

EMS ?

Post by **im two techno** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

irax wrote:you know i was thinking of deboring it and destroking it to 2.2 or 2.0 and let it rev to 12k using the internals from a ka20de from the EDM vans...

What van do you speak of?

Post by **240convertedme41** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

Hey... i dunno if they just listed it in advance.. but Stillen has the ems on their website... check it out

http://stillen.com/Sportscars_...age=1

I like the price on it too..something tells me aem will make alot of money with that little gadget. Im too lazy to call Stillen to see if they actually carry it... ok well just my 2 cents..

Post by **irax** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

im two techno wrote:What van do you speak of?

HERE

WEEE i thought i wasnt going to find an english version of this site.. but i did...

that van has verious motor options..

1 ka24de2 ka20de

although this information might tell me weither or not its possible

Engine KA20DEType DOHC,16-valve In-line 4Displacement (L) 1.998Bore x Stroke (mm) 86.0 x 86.0Max. Power (kW, PS/rpm) 88,120/5,200 (119.08 HP)Max. Torque (Nm, kgm/rpm) 171,17.4/2,800 (123.66 TQ)Compression Ratio 9.5:1Induction EGI(ECCS)

Post by **irax** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

can some one tell me what the bore and stroke of the ka24de is... i think its 86x100 iono...

damn im wrong...

240SX KA24DE 2389cc(145.7") 91-98 16 valve; DOHC 4; F.Inj bore 89mm(3.504") stroke 96mm(3.78")

hmm.. maby i can still use the ka24de pistons, but use the crankshaft and connecting rods from the ka20de...

Post by **irax** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

ok with my calculations...

the ka20 with ka24 bottem end = ka22dethe ka24 with ka20 bottem end = ka21de

some one wanna calculate the compression ratio for me ?

http://www.dunegoon.org/compression.html

i dont know all those numbers...

Post by **InsanityInc** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

KA24DE is 89x96

Post by **irax** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

yeah i just said that... thanks for the help though.. wanna figure out the compression ratio?

Post by **InsanityInc** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

it'd end up being much lower, that's for sure.

Post by **deviousKA** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

Modified by deviousKA at 4:43 AM 9/17/2005

Post by **mackdaddy240** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 6:41 pm

technoman wrote:sorry not into NOS.

what about Nitrous express, or Zex?? NOS isnt the only company who makes nitrous systems

Does anyone have a ka24de which produces 200+ HP and/or 200+ torque??

200HP and more

Re: 200HP and more

the dyno will tell

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