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Do you know anything about tools?

Today at a glance I saw someone reading tool magazine.

I am just curious.

Do know famous brand or the best brand of tool makers?

(or kind of famous tool set)

I wanna have my own tool but I have no idea which tool

I should buy first(and which brand) to maintain my car,,,


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uh, I find craftsman hand tools to be very strong (I've managed to break some sockets but it happens sometimes...)

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Craftsman is probably the best all around brand. Lifetime warranty, hassle-free and available replacements. If you have the money and/or use your tools a LOT then Snap On is probably a worthy step up.

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I thought you meant like Tonka Cool Tools, or something, where the kids use ratchets and hammers on a big board of plastic screw, ect.

Craftsman is really good about replacing tools.

If you wanna be delux like DAEDALUS said, get some Snap On.

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OH SO REAL!!!

THE LOOK AND THE FEEL!!!

COOL TOOLS RULE, COOL TOOLS!!!

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Thanks :pface

Craftsman would be perfect for me.

And I remember that

once I heard about SNAP ON(as a a+++ grade tool)

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Yeah Snap-On by far the best from what I've seen, but if ya want an entire set be prepared to spend quite a bit. I used to sell used ones on ebay and they still went for near new prices, but hey one secret I've learned, hit pawn shops, sometimes you can get some really good deals on tools since they dont usually know the value of tools(used to do that then the pawn shops started pricing off of ebay) plus they usuallly only take in like craftsman, snap-on, blue point, the good stuff. And like it was said above, craftsman is prolly ya next best choice, decent price too.

Most the pawn shops that price off ebay are in colorado so it seems, lot of the pawn shops here list on ebay.

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go get the 200$ set up from sears, the craftsman set thats what i got and i use it atleast once a week, also get a metal oil filter remover, they are worth their wight in gold.. it makes changing oil faster and a whole lot easyer...

welp thats my 2 cents

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you shouldn't really need an oil filter remover unless you're putting them on too tight, though I've had a few occassions where it's too greasy or it was someone elses car and they put it on way too tight (put a screwdriver through the sucker, not something I'd advise, but it worked)

Snap-On are indeed very nice, but a bit pricey if you're not gonna use them for a profession. I do however want some of the gold plated special edition sets, I find them amusing for some reason...

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Interesting Tool world, I'm gonna take a look around...

Sears Ad - Tools make man :pface

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doh screwdriver is a good idea on that oil filter removal i think. I spent 20 minutes trying to get one off once (not my car) i was ready to kill that filter! stabbing it with a big screw driver would have been good times.

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someone give me a good reason why Snap-On is a better brand than craftsman. i would buy craftsman over any other brand any day. why do you think snap on is any better? i actualy think they are worse(for me at least)

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they have a tendency to be harder to break and usually better ergonomics in their design, though craftsman has been making some really neat stuff as of late.

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I haven't broken a craftsman tool yet and it's practically all I use. My new craftsmen torque wrench just served me well putting my motor back together without any problems :D Oh, and flathead screwdriver through the oil filter = my favorite way of removing stuck on oil filters. Forget all the special oil filter removal tools, there's nothing like a hammer and a screwdriver. I even managed to do it on an Altima (if you know where the oil filter is in relation to the firewall you'll realize what an accomplishment that was considering I came in from the top).

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the only set I own is a craftsmen, haven't broken any of them yet, but my uncle, who usually gets only craftsmen sockets, has had me break a few on some really stubborn bolts, but then again, there were also times when we used a 10ft cheater bar on some heavily rusted bolts and they held up like a champ.

for the price and performance, I'd say they're number one.

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snap on does have specialty tools that are good to have. but for regular sockets and wrenches, you can buy the carftsman tool 3 times, or buy the snapon one time.

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I prefer Craftsman over Snap on just for convenience. I can drive (or could if I was in the States) to any Sears and replace a broken tool. I have no idea where the closest Snap on dealer is.

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i know about cool tubes,guess that doesnt help.sorry,just board

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Mastaflash wrote:someone give me a good reason why Snap-On is a better brand than craftsman. i would buy craftsman over any other brand any day. why do you think snap on is any better? i actualy think they are worse(for me at least)


Better materials, better reliability (by alot), better ergonomics, and much better tool design

Craftsmen works for your weekend warrior but doesn't cut it for anything more than that.

Snap-OnMatcoMacCornwell

All good brands from my experiance

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whats the difference in material? i thought they were all forged steel with hardened chrome plated. im not sure what you mean by relability? the tools themselves? if thats what you mean then with craftsman if it breaks you take itr to sears, instead of waiting for the tool truck to show. i have no idea what ergonomics means. and ill admit that some higher priced tools like snap on are designed a little better. one thing i have noticed is the ratchet gears. the gears on snap on ratchets are tighter, and take less movement to use.

what do you do for a living? im just wondering. i may find reasons that craftsman is not my tool of choice when i get into becoming a mechanic, but for now they suit me fine while im in Automotice Techmology school, and working on cars at home.

but can you tell me the reaon for the double brice difference between craftsman and snap-on?

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Mastaflash wrote:whats the difference in material? i thought they were all forged steel with hardened chrome plated. im not sure what you mean by relability? the tools themselves? if thats what you mean then with craftsman if it breaks you take itr to sears, instead of waiting for the tool truck to show. i have no idea what ergonomics means. and ill admit that some higher priced tools like snap on are designed a little better. one thing i have noticed is the ratchet gears. the gears on snap on ratchets are tighter, and take less movement to use.

what do you do for a living? im just wondering. i may find reasons that craftsman is not my tool of choice when i get into becoming a mechanic, but for now they suit me fine while im in Automotice Techmology school, and working on cars at home.

but can you tell me the reaon for the double brice difference between craftsman and snap-on?


I was a technician for Mazda... believe me, get the quality tools first.

Taking a tool back everytime it breaks isn't fun. Snap-On doesn't break as often as craftsman thats for sure.

Both being made of forged steel is like saying all forged pistons are made of the same metal. They aren't, the forging process, tolerances, quality control, alloy, and many many many other aspects go into making a quality tool. While they both work the same job, one is better suited.

Some differences between Snap-On and Craftsman that Sears may or may not have the solution to:

1. Snap-On has longer, thinner wrenches with narrow box ends2. Snap-On has alot of speciality tools3. Snap-On precision 4. Snap-On finish quality is alot better5. Snap-On's impact sockets are ALOT tougher 6. Snap-On's swivels actually live longer than 2 weeks when in constant use with an impact tool 7. Snap-On breaks less8. Snap-On has a better feel to it, generally more leverage as well9. Snap-On has superior wratcheting mechanisms by far 10. Snap-On tool boxes don't feel like they are made of tin foil

Just a few I can think of right now. Granted alot of things they make are outrageous, shop around and you can find good deals.

The answer to your last question is tell me why people pay for a name brand exhaust when an Ebay special does the same job and even looks the same. It's because of the name, it's assumed quality (usually backed up by the product), loyalty to some extent, and finally the fact that you know it's going to work.

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Agreed! All steels are not equal. Forging is only a process, and the results can be 140ksi steel or 220ksi steel. In addition to having tigher manufacturing tolerances, SnapOn tools are better designed and weight optimized. Thick where the stress is, and thin everywhere else. When you're turning wrenches 8-12 hours a day as your job, this makes a huge difference. You can work faster and you'll be less prone to repetitive motion injuries like carpal tunnel syndrome. As far as availablity, Snap On used to have retail stores, but my neighborhood is served by a network of vans loaded with tools. You find the rep via the phone book, make a call, and he shows up on your doorstep with a rolling showcase from which to pick and choose. I'm happy with my Craftsman tools honestly, but I'd quickly step up if I used my tools day in and day out.

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nismo freak, you have made a point(actualy a few), but i cant afford the cost of snap on. im still in high school, and im proud to say i have bought all of my craftsman boxes and tools. it does well for what im using it for now. i may step up to a high quality brand when i can. i can get a very good discount since i am a student though.

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Nismo_yo wrote:Yeah Snap-On by far the best from what I've seen.


I second that. My family has snap-on tools and I am the 3rd generation to use them, and they still hold up the best.

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:) Thanks again for all infomation.

Also I can learn about tools. (what is different)It's really helpful to get user's opinion..

Though I don't know what I buy first... :(driver and wrench... maybe... hmm...

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There's no question if you go with Craftsman you should save up and get the whole set when you can afford to. See how much they're charging for each socket and wrench, then look at the cost of the sets. Way cheaper. Wait for the sales...usually some really good deals every couple months or so.


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