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exactly 30 years ago today (feb. 22, 1980) a group of college kids defeated the Soviet powerhouse on a sheet of ice in lake placid. it was much more than just a hockey game. it was a "victory" for the nation during the cold war. for those of you that were around for it, did you watch it? do you remember your reaction if you did? i get chills every time i watch the clips of the game and hear Al Michaels yelling "DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES? YES!" i know what im doing tonight, sitting down and watching the movie Miracle. there was kind of a repeat last night with the USA upset over Canada 5-3 too.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpTj_Z9v-cpre game speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGACsSW4Iqwlast 15 seconds



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danshaz82 wrote:do you believe in miracles?
NO DAN, NOOOOOOOOOO........

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I believe in miracles.

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Where you from?

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You sexy thang.

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^ HAHAHAHAHA

Spectacular.

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Here we go again!

There was no miracle. The players trained for years for the event. It is called skill.

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^ Exactly, f*** I wish I was alive for that.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:Here we go again!

There was no miracle. The players trained for years for the event. It is called skill.
They trained for 6 months as a team composed of college athletes as opposed to the Russians who had been playing together in previous olympic games and international events for years together professionally.

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This is no way near close what happened during the game vs. the Soviet Union. You making this post simply means that you know absolutely nothing about hockey in this day and age and are just following the stupid media who also know nothing about the sport.

Don't get offended. Nothing personal.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:Here we go again!

There was no miracle. The players trained for years for the event. It is called skill.
That was so NALA like. You need to smack yourself in the head. It looks like your only perspective of Olympic hockey is now, where most teams are now stocked with NHL players. Back then, the US team was made up of college kids. Pure amateurs. The USSR were all professionals, playing for years together. Having those kids beat what was the most dominant hockey team of the era was miraculous.

I watched it on TV, it was one the greatest moments in sports.

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Now I can't get that damn song out of my head!!!Damn you Danshaz!

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f1seb wrote:This is no way near close what happened during the game vs. the Soviet Union. You making this post simply means that you know absolutely nothing about hockey in this day and age and are just following the stupid media who also know nothing about the sport.

Don't get offended. Nothing personal.
enlighten us all then. ive been playing/following the game since i could walk. no offense taken

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Bubba1 wrote:That was so NALA like. You need to smack yourself in the head. It looks like your only perspective of Olympic hockey is now, where most teams are now stocked with NHL players. Back then, the US team was made up of college kids. Pure amateurs. The USSR were all professionals, playing for years together. Having those kids beat what was the most dominant hockey team of the era was miraculous.
No, you are simply stating that they played together for 6 months. That means nothing.

The players themselves had all played for years prior to the event. The quick cohesion was impressive, but not miraculous.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:
No, you are simply stating that they played together for 6 months. That means nothing.

The players themselves had all played for years prior to the event. The quick cohesion was impressive, but not miraculous.
the fact that they only played together for 6 months means alot. the soviets played together for 16 years. so they all knew exactly how every other player on the team played. they all knew everyone else's playing style, so they were like clockwork. now the US team had only 6 months of experience playing together. they all came from different playing styles and coaching. it is very difficult to play with a team when you dont know the playing style of your teammates. so the fact that a group of college kids that barely knew each others playing style beat the best hockey team in the world after losing to the 10-1 in a prior game is pretty amazing.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:Here we go again!

There was no miracle. The players trained for years for the event. It is called skill.
Dude you're way to young to be such a cynic, get some sunshine and fresh air.

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He's not a cynic, he's a moron. He proves it every time with his socially awkward questions, ignorant ideals and complete lack of tact for anything serious.

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lol....what Dave said.

that game was kinda like LSU playing the Colts or Saints...hell, not even that really.


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Dattebayo wrote:He's not a cynic, he's a moron. He proves it every time with his socially awkward questions, ignorant ideals and complete lack of tact for anything serious.
I'm not Nala here....

Example of recent threads that posed socially awkward questions?

Ideals?

Eff tact, tact is for those that are to afraid of being straight forward.
Mr1der wrote:that game was kinda like LSU playing the Colts or Saints...hell, not even that really.
And yet most college teams look better then professionals...

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because they're playing other teams on their level.

The Russian team had previously destroyed the New York Rangers and..the oilers maybe?

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i dont remember exactly which teams, but they beat the NHL all-stars 6-0 that year

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The game last night (as with most) came down to one thing....goaltending. Miller was spectacular.

So no...it wasn't a miracle.

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G_whizz wrote:The game last night (as with most) came down to one thing....goaltending. Miller was spectacular.

So no...it wasn't a miracle.
miller was outstanding. some of the saves he made were unreal. no, it wasnt a miracle. but the US team wasnt supposed to do this well. almost no body, including the fans, thought that they would make it this far, let alone beat canada. so in a way, its like what happened 30 years ago, but on a smaller scale with a lesser significance.

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Dattebayo wrote:He's not a cynic, he's a moron. He proves it every time with his socially awkward questions, ignorant ideals and complete lack of tact for anything serious.
^ THIS.
PoorManQ45 wrote:Eff tact, tact is for those that are to afraid of being straight forward.
While I'm sure you like to fancy yourself a straight-shooting, take-no-prisoners verbal jouster who can't be bothered by matters of "tact", you're really the only one impressed with yourself.

You flit from pwning to pwning like a blind two-headed kitten on crack.

The term "attention whore" comes to mind... "Hey, look at me! I'm SUCH a tell-it-like-it is guy!"

Nope. Not at all.

So, shh. We're talking about hockey.

Go outside and play. Or study your spelling homework.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:Eff tact, tact is for those that are to afraid of being straight forward.
It is entirely possible to be straightforward and still be tactful. It is also entirely possible to just STFU and not post. I do it all the time. You should try it sometime yourself.

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when I think of PMQ...crusading idiot comes to mind.

I need to think of a retarded design to put on a white tunic and make an armored dunce cap...

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Mr1der wrote:I need to think of a retarded design to put on a white tunic and make an armored dunce cap...
What about the "OH SNAP" bear pic?

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PoorManQ45 wrote:
I'm not Nala here....

Eff tact, tact is for those that are to afraid of being straight forward.
Nala has age to blame for his ignorance. You have no excuse.

You say the US skaters skated for many years? Hello McFly, so did the Soviets. Andwhile the US kids were in school and playing hockey as a hobby, the Soviets werefull time PROFESSIONAL hockey players. And in their NHL tour before the olympics USSR defeated most of the NHL teams. That's how good they were in their day.

Obviously there was some budding talent on the US squad, a couple of the team members went onto NHL careers, but only a couple of them. Had the Soviet Union allowed their players to defect at that time, pretty much ALL of them would have started on NHL teams.

You're talking about NHL caliber all stars who played together for YEARS against an newly assembled group of college kids from shools like Cornell and Minnesota that first met just 6 months before. Add to that Hockey is a team sport. If you don't consider that a major upset victory, you need your head examined.




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So, you are defending the stance that these player's skill had nothing to do with the win and that this was purely a miracle?


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PoorManQ45 wrote:So, you are defending the stance that these player's skill had nothing to do with the win and that this was purely a miracle?
Yes, If it was a simple a test of skill, the Soviets would have won easily, they were far more skilled. That US olympic teams win showed the power of desire/willpowerin beating a superior skilled team.


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