Do wheel spacers effect hub centric rings
Do wheel spacers effect hub centric rings
I actually have a few questions. I have a set of +40 offset rims. They use a hub centric ring, if you use a wheel spacer does it still get used or does the wheel no longer touch the hub. Also, Im not really clear on how the wheel spacers work, does a 5mm ring give me a +35 offset. Im looking to use some 225/40/R17 on my s13 what spacer would be needed to clear the front and back shocks.
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pdqwrx
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Re: Do wheel spacers effect hub centric rings (burn240sx)
Offsets are way to confusing for my tired brain but buy hub centric wheel spacers and your good to go....
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Re: Do wheel spacers effect hub centric rings (burn240sx)
there is a really good wheel tire brake and suspension forum on nico,lot of good info and answers to questions like this.
the fact of the matter is that spacers don't change the wheels offset, they push the wheel out and the positioning can be approximated bygiving it an offset value. so yes, if you push it out 5 mm it gives it thesame outward position of a +35 wheel with the same width.
so if I have a 20mm spacer with a x6 +40, my outward position wouldbe approximately the same as a x6 +20.
offset is actually the measurement of the hub's relative distance to thecenter of the wheel. a x6 wheel measures 7 across, but inside lip to lipthe measurement is 6. to dead center is 3 inches, so if the hub mounts dead center on the wheel barrell then it's a 0 offset. if a wheel has apositive offset, like a +40 wheel, it means the hub seats closer to theoutward facing edge of the wheel, beyond the center point of the wheel.a negative offset means that the hub seats in farther than the middle.
have to say it, there's been a lot of arguements about the safety issuesassociated with spacers and the stress they put on your hubs. you alsodon't really want to use slip on spacers, bolt on spacers are better andthey basically extend your hub.
as far as hubcentric rings, I'd just buy hubcentric spacers, but that's just me.
this pic below is of my old 240 with +40 s14 4 lugs/20mm spacers in front.
the fact of the matter is that spacers don't change the wheels offset, they push the wheel out and the positioning can be approximated bygiving it an offset value. so yes, if you push it out 5 mm it gives it thesame outward position of a +35 wheel with the same width.
so if I have a 20mm spacer with a x6 +40, my outward position wouldbe approximately the same as a x6 +20.
offset is actually the measurement of the hub's relative distance to thecenter of the wheel. a x6 wheel measures 7 across, but inside lip to lipthe measurement is 6. to dead center is 3 inches, so if the hub mounts dead center on the wheel barrell then it's a 0 offset. if a wheel has apositive offset, like a +40 wheel, it means the hub seats closer to theoutward facing edge of the wheel, beyond the center point of the wheel.a negative offset means that the hub seats in farther than the middle.
have to say it, there's been a lot of arguements about the safety issuesassociated with spacers and the stress they put on your hubs. you alsodon't really want to use slip on spacers, bolt on spacers are better andthey basically extend your hub.
as far as hubcentric rings, I'd just buy hubcentric spacers, but that's just me.
this pic below is of my old 240 with +40 s14 4 lugs/20mm spacers in front.
Re: Do wheel spacers effect hub centric rings (continental_drift)
The hubcentric ring centers an aftermarket or non-OE wheel to the cars hub. Hub centric spacers basically have a hub machined into them that should be the same diameter as your vehicle's existing hub. If you were to get hubcentric spacers then you could use your existing hubcentric rings on it. Another nice thing about hub centric spacers (slip on type) is that they also fit perfectly around the OE hub unlike cheap universal ebay ones. Keep in mind that quality hubcentric spacers arn't cheap, but after using cheap ebay ones, I think it's worth the extra cash.continental_drift wrote:as far as hubcentric rings, I'd just buy hubcentric spacers
On my s14 with a 5mm spacer I could not use my hub centric rings because only about 2mm of the hub was exposed. I could mount my wheels with them in but there was not enough hub engagement for the rings to work so I got high speed vibrations. I don't promote the use of spacers, but I really liked my 16x8 3 piece wheels and they did not clear my z calipers so I made them fit.
FYI: H&R spacers are not hub centric at 5mm thickness because the spacer needs to be thicker than the OE hub to have a machined hub
I am not a fitmet master like some people on this forum, but I know you could find the answer about clearence if you searched it. It would also help if you posted your wheel width.