Do we own classics?

[Guappone240]

I know people have debated this amongst friends but I'v enever seen it in NICO. Is the 89' S13 now a "classic". Mys13 just turn 20 years old. Now I hear 20-25 is the line. But still should we start crusiing with the old guys in the chevys and fords or should we just stay where we are. I mean old Z's are starting to get the respect they deserve. Is it our turn? What do you guys think? Lets see what wee come up with.

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[Hijacker]

The 240 is not a classic. Not even by timeline standards. If you go by timeline, it would be at least 25 years. However, the car really needs to be accepted by the majority of the aftermarket industry as a "classic". Currently, the 240 is more of a cult or niche car.

[Guappone240]

Yeah you've got a point. But by insurance standards it only has to be 20 years. But look at the Z's I see plenty at hot rod show and people still tip there hats to it. Why not us. We're not the same generation classifying the same cars. We are a new gen with a new car but the same rules apply. I say as long as the dates are up to standards the Eff the old guys its our turn these are our cars that we put pride, blood and sweat into just like the did and ours are at that age. I'm not saying I want in the club. But still the should show some respect.!

[Kalypso]

I like the 240 the way it is.. I dont want to much fanboyism surrounding it

right now its still special and excluded from the mainstream

[Guappone240]

Alright maybe I'm not getting my point across. I'm not talking mustang, camaro status. I'm talking about showing up to an hot rod event, cause your proud of your car and put as much work as the old f***ers mechanics did, and the show you the respect cause of the car. Wether we like it o not people now the 240 is a badass car. No It's our turn to show them we can hang just like them.

[Guappone240]

Anyone on that plate the goes on the intake?

[el OCHO]

i think it would be considered a 'cult classic'(no emo)

[Kalypso]

people will show their respect, fabricators recognize quality work on contact

and of course this new generation has its own style so they'll appreciate it.

but thats if you come correct, shyt like full cages with gussets on the A pillar, v mount intercooler setups. built blocks and heads and custom top mount turbos, along with ridiculous wheel fitment or slammed cars with stiff suspension geometry.

are all very impressive.

a lot of the extreme things we do with 240's people were doing with rat rods and hot rods in the 60's.

its all the same effectively. dope looking fast RWD cars.

a flake paint job doesn't hurt either.

[hbpignosePA]

i think classic status is 15 years

antique is 25 and older

at least in PA

and y wouldnt it i look at it simply by the age of the car

you bet your a** ill put classic plates on when its 25 years old; no inspection and cheap insurance

[B-Boy DuB-L]

i think classic status is 15 years

antique is 25 and older

at least in PA

and y wouldnt it i look at it simply by the age of the car

you bet your a** ill put classic plates on when its 25 years old; no inspection and cheap insurance

Yea but isn't there a certain amount of mileage allowed to accumulate over the period of a year? I though it was 12,000 miles a year for it to be considered classic

[Tonyman]

I'm a huge American Muscle kind of guy and i could never think of putting the 240 into a classic car status because it just doesn't fit in with what i see as classic. that or any non American car. it just doesn't seem right to me.

it will always be an import tuner car to me.

[Kalypso]

To me the definition of classic is an automotive Style that is not longer developed or created today.

creating a unique sub culture surrounding. thats how I define classic

not by barrett Jackson standards, but by the strength of the movement surrounding a certain chassis type that is no longer produced.

...thats my feeling exactly.
Modified by Kalypso123 at 2:18 AM 5/3/2009

[S14toRPS13]

I'm a huge American Muscle kind of guy and i could never think of putting the 240 into a classic car status because it just doesn't fit in with what i see as classic. that or any non American car. it just doesn't seem right to me.

it will always be an import tuner car to me.

I started out a die-hard import guy back when I was 16. Over the years I've grown to appreciate all cars for what they are. When people say "classic", they think of Barrett Jackson type cars. 510's, classic Z's and S13's will never fall into the same category as classic American cars. We definitely deserve a category of our own. Most the old muscle heads are too stubborn to understand our cars anyways. I could careless if they give us a thumbs up or not. I like American muscle cars, but I hate stubborn American muscle guys just as much as they hate me.

[Kalypso]

^ yeah me too, i do dislike the stubborn American muscle heads..

but impressively I have met one old timer that took a big interest in 240's when he saw me swapping mine. We sat together and talked about his life long love affair with drag racing.

not all muscle heads are jerks... with everything some people are open minded and others are not.

... my favorite engine is the ls1 and the LQ's

[krash]

once we get older, mature, get more money, demand nothing less than quality parts, then maybe we'll get a little respect. my friend was saying once that we're going to get all old and still have our 240s, and our kid's friends are going to be drooling over them like we drool over early mustangs and the like. Except instead of, "it has a 440?!?" its going to be, "IT RUNS ON GAS?!?"

[musashin]

The 240 will never be a 'classic.' You can put classic plates on it, I don't care. But it will never be accepted as a classic like that. Now old Datsuns I can see reaching classic status; they already have in my mind. Even some 80's cars I could see MAYBE becoming classics. Even though your car is an '89, it is still part of the early 90's styling generation, and that just doesn't have the reputation it needs for a classic. Would you ever consider an EG Civic a 'classic car'? Probably not, unless you say you would just to support your point.

[Papi Chulo]

lol

[gregfarz78]

In PA my car is considered a classic, its not exactly my definition of "classic car" though not yet...maybe another 15-20 years from now a clean 240sx will be sought after just like a clean 240z is hard to come by now

[S13Joe]

Are you serious? Considering the 240SX a classic car... LOL. Although I love my car it will never be anything close to a classic car. We drive old s***ty rice banging RWD cars that aren't even considered a "sports car". A CLASSIC car would be something like a chevelle or a GTO or something like that, not our 24mpg rice wagons. Please people, this is ridiculous. I'm not even a fan of american cars at all either.

[Ghast]

Are you serious? Considering the 240SX a classic car... LOL. Although I love my car it will never be anything close to a classic car. We drive old s***ty rice banging RWD cars that aren't even considered a "sports car". A CLASSIC car would be something like a chevelle or a GTO or something like that, not our 24mpg rice wagons. Please people, this is ridiculous. I'm not even a fan of american cars at all either.

A lot of you have NO idea of the direction the automotive industry or the world is starting to turn. People are scared for the petrol era and how much longer it will last. Even with the industry being s***ty right now people are investing big money in Flex, Hybrid, H2o, and CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) research. Along with a return of EV cars.

In 25 years when we are being taxed more to drive around a car that puts out emissions, it will be rare to see any car that runs on petrol. Let alone old sports cars, or our "RWD Rice Bangers".

All i am saying is TIME will make ANYTHING a "Classic" Or "Oldie", maybe our cars will earn a different type of name.

Hell, all the guys that are finding these bone stock 240's with EVERYTHING intact and are just storing them away. They are going to be worth A LOT more then you think someday.

Think about it.

One Love,

Ghasty

[DMan II-40]

I agree with Ghast. Everything eventually becomes classic. I remember when N64 was hot s*** when i got it for Christmas. Now its one of those classic gaming systems.

[krash]

Its like this for every era that is on its way to classic. I HIGHLY doubt that brand new 510 owners we're thinking, "Man, this car is going to be wanted in the future."

[heartofaskyline]

A lot of you have NO idea of the direction the automotive industry or the world is starting to turn. People are scared for the petrol era and how much longer it will last. Even with the industry being s***ty right now people are investing big money in Flex, Hybrid, H2o, and CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) research. Along with a return of EV cars.

In 25 years when we are being taxed more to drive around a car that puts out emissions, it will be rare to see any car that runs on petrol. Let alone old sports cars, or our "RWD Rice Bangers".

All i am saying is TIME will make ANYTHING a "Classic" Or "Oldie", maybe our cars will earn a different type of name.

Hell, all the guys that are finding these bone stock 240's with EVERYTHING intact and are just storing them away. They are going to be worth A LOT more then you think someday.

Think about it.

One Love,

Ghasty

i cant wait till we get more ethanol places around here. i know i guy in town who runs his sr'd hatch with that stuff and swears by it. he's puttin down over 400 with it. so im kinda looking forward to petrol going out the door.

[crash n burn]

ethanol will never get that big, trust me.

our cars will become classic, and just as Z's did back in the day, after everyone is done crashing and banging them up..the stock/lightly modified cars will come out of the weeds; and just as today, a #'s matching classic "rice rocket" will be the thing of dreams. hell even a car that was built in 01' and someone comes along 15 years later is going to be like DAYUM, look at those a-spec blast pipes and that old school greddy profec A boost controller, etc etc. just like it is now, we'll be spending way too much on old school jdm parts and nostalgic equipment.

the 240 craze to too hyped up right now, and with a little time, it'll die out and parts will start getting harder and harder to find. and the day will come that you sell it for chump change when your wife has a kid or some crazy s*** like that. f***, the way its looking like now, ANYTHING that runs on 4 wheels and gas will be an eye catcher in the next 20 years

so i'm stocking up now

[TimTurboZ]

I don't think a S13 will ever be known as a classic, S14 is a push, I'd say S15's like 20 years from now will be considered classics.

[breadbox]

Not everyone has fond memories of owning a 240sx vs Tons of people have fond memories or a funny story about early datsuns.

If we all keep up the interest in them then they will be classics.

[BearTrap]

I think there will be a niche classic market for 240s one of these days. Just like all cars. Hell, there was a classic section for Gremlins at the last car show I went to. Really? If people build em, take pride in them, there will be a classic genre for it.

Also, we are just like our parents were back in the 70s, and our Grandparents back in the 40s. My Grandpa probably gave my dad crap about his 90 degree V8, and my dad gives me crap about my fuel injection. Generation's cars change along with the people. We will probably give our kids or grandkids crap about their hovercrafts.

[1990-240sxsr20det]

A lot of you have NO idea of the direction the automotive industry or the world is starting to turn. People are scared for the petrol era and how much longer it will last. Even with the industry being s***ty right now people are investing big money in Flex, Hybrid, H2o, and CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) research. Along with a return of EV cars.

In 25 years when we are being taxed more to drive around a car that puts out emissions, it will be rare to see any car that runs on petrol. Let alone old sports cars, or our "RWD Rice Bangers".

All i am saying is TIME will make ANYTHING a "Classic" Or "Oldie", maybe our cars will earn a different type of name.

Hell, all the guys that are finding these bone stock 240's with EVERYTHING intact and are just storing them away. They are going to be worth A LOT more then you think someday.

Think about it.

One Love,

Ghasty

[Jadesr20det]

I agree w/Ghast......as soon as all of these guys are done smashing them into walls and #'s start dwindling prices will go up and the younger crowd will start buying up civics/integras again (nothing against those cars).....i then see the s13 being classified in the category of "old school" same as the AE86's and FC's (both of which gained popularity after being replaced w/a newer model/chasis).....those who say these cars are "rice machines" and will never be considered anything more than are the same people who will not own these cars in the future and witness them become such.....i even consider ef civics and crx's (when built clean) old school so i am not biased by any means.....i give it 2-3 more years and the 240 craze will blow over i already see less and less s13's at events...

[Ghast]

I agree with Ghast. Everything eventually becomes classic. I remember when N64 was hot s*** when i got it for Christmas. Now its one of those classic gaming systems.

You are very right! And i still have my N64 because i love the no loading! I only have 4 games though, Pokemon Stadium, Golden Eye, b0mber Man and Super Smash Brothers! only games i needed!

as soon as all of these guys are done smashing them into walls and #'s start dwindling prices will go up and the younger crowd will start buying up civics/integras again (nothing against those cars).....i then see the s13 being classified in the category of "old school" same as the AE86's and FC's (both of which gained popularity after being replaced w/a newer model/chasis)

The FC and 86 are Great examples!. When we see a clean 86 which is extremely rare for me, let alone to just see one it is like WOW an 86 even an FC or any old rotary.

Same thing applies, you are correct.

We will probably give our kids or grandkids crap about their hovercrafts.

ya and they don't just have kids and teens now there is something called tween which is 2 years before age 13.

"Damn tweens and their hover segway's"

"You know back in my day, We actually had to steer the car! we did not have all of this think about where you want to go malarkey!"

haha i can see it now. I wanna be the old guy that sits on his porch with an old dog all day and the kids are afraid to let the baseball hit my lawn HAHAHA....If there is a baseball