Do not buy rear valences from bings!

[Zee]

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Bob and max, you're both pathetic.

It isn't enough bob that you an ian constantly try to slander him on Son, but doing it abroad now? thats a new low even for you.

And max, give me a break, yeah you drove it for 1000km, but you owned it for over a year. Do that to any business, you're out of warentee period and he was still willing to have it fixed. You turned it down, thats not his problem.

Now onto quality, he doesnt make that exhaust, nor the manifolds, he just sells them and as many people know they're the same as the megan etc crap.

Why not go bag on varun for selling megan 4-link, when i've seen them show up missing weld?

His supension arms are more than adequet, Ian if he is actually an engineer can do the calculations on the Shear stress required to break them.

Now i'm not a huge supporter of his, especilly since whats happened recently with andrew, but i'll still defend him against you, max, and ian's rediculous accusations.

Grow up.

You are telling people to grow up yet your are the one trying to cuss people out over the internet. Maybe you should take a long look in the mirror. They are talking about the problems they are having with the products. So just stop trying to be an idiot and an *** and let them talk.

BTW I also want to know about Garage-13's stuff might buy a few things from them if they are good.
Modified by Zee at 10:18 AM 8/8/2007

[FrEaK]

Thanks Zee, I appreciate the kind words...

Bob and max, you're both pathetic.

It isn't enough bob that you an ian constantly try to slander him on Son, but doing it abroad now? thats a new low even for you.

And max, give me a break, yeah you drove it for 1000km, but you owned it for over a year. Do that to any business, you're out of warentee period and he was still willing to have it fixed. You turned it down, thats not his problem.

Now onto quality, he doesnt make that exhaust, nor the manifolds, he just sells them and as many people know they're the same as the megan etc crap.

Why not go bag on varun for selling megan 4-link, when i've seen them show up missing weld?

His supension arms are more than adequet, Ian if he is actually an engineer can do the calculations on the Shear stress required to break them.

Now i'm not a huge supporter of his, especilly since whats happened recently with andrew, but i'll still defend him against you, max, and ian's rediculous accusations.

Grow up.

Matt, if you want shoot me an email at [email protected]... I'd be happy to talk to you over MSN about it.

[jallen]

You are telling people to grow up yet your are the one trying to cuss people out over the internet. Maybe you should take a long look in the mirror. They are talking about the problems they are having with the products. So just stop trying to be an idoit and an *** and let them talk.

BTW I also want to know about Garage-13's stuff might buy a few things from them if they are good.

unless there is some other post somewhere else from !matt that you're referring to, i'm just gonna have to go ahead and say you're insane. !matt's post was not out of line at all. There isn't a ****ed up word in it and he certainly wasn't being an ***.

[Zee]

unless there is some other post somewhere else from !matt that you're referring to, i'm just gonna have to go ahead and say you're insane. !matt's post was not out of line at all. There isn't a ****ed up word in it and he certainly wasn't being an ***.

Did you even read his post? I don't think you did.

[mat180]

i live near bing and have bought from him several times

nothing has ever broke and everything has always fitim sure if you contact him, things will be fixed

his hatch rare valances are a mold of my 180sx type x valances that came on my 180sx.

[ss82480]

Wow I didn't realize Bings had such junk products. Good thing I dodged them earlier, and I'm sure lots of people will appreciate you guys giving them a heads up.

[Jookmasta]

so i guess its back to the drawing board for us coupe guys. no rear valences one again for us............

the garage 13 didn't seem bad but the picture that they have on their site is horrible. if anyone has a better picture of their rear valences, feel free to post up.

[mat180]

to the guy who started teh thread, i dont mean to bash you, but u do realize you mounted them wrong right/

my oem ones do the same thing if i put above the line like that. there supposed to sit below the line.

below the line they mount fine

just my 2 cents

[mat180]

i can provide pics if youd like

[onosqv]

Since you said they fit so awfully... do you have a pic showing fitment of these as-is?

[slyedog240sx]

i got these from a place called jf racing about 4 years ago.The kit was for hatchback but the valances were easy to fit to car.Mine went over the lower body line which i hate so i shaved it so it looked so much more uniform.

[daconkiftador]

so i guess its back to the drawing board for us coupe guys. no rear valences one again for us............

the garage 13 didn't seem bad but the picture that they have on their site is horrible. if anyone has a better picture of their rear valences, feel free to post up.

I was thinking of ordering a set of those BING replica's too.

[TomsS14]

I have purchased some stuff off bings and have had no problems with them. He seems like a good guy so e-mail or something see what can happen because I know a bunch of SON members buy the front lip of him and it's a common thing now...just remember guys you get what you pay for in the end

[Dr.Fate]

Hey look guys I'm not trying ruin someone place of buiness but you got to understand the fustration with getting something that don't fit your car, that's susposed to fit. Check this out! If it happened to you I HOPE that you would be MAN enough to psot to your fellow NISSAN brothers and let them know of f!@ked products being sold to us, PERIOD. I know I should have maybe contacted BING first, but why should I and not let my peoples know first ? I think the people trying to deffend BING are his buddies trying to look out for thier homeboy and I can understand that, but look at this way, I bet he makes a new mold real soon for the valences or he will stop selling the products to my fellow nissan brothers. One more point: If bings was a scamer, I don't think that anyone would have a problem with what I've done. I will contact Bings later on tonight. Maybe I should have contacted bings first but I did not. SUE ME! I'M MAD COUPE OWNER.

[onosqv]

Well, I would post too... even if I didn't contact him first, if I was complaining about fitment of something, I'd post a picture of me trying to fit it - at least that way, IF it was a manufacturing defect or user error, people will be able to tell...

[mat180]

you still havent commented on the fact that you mounted them wrong (your pics show them way too high in the inside quarter,obviously they wont fit right then)

if you mounted them right youde have no problems

if you thihnk you got scammed, check out my thread where i got scammed by andre aguilar

[Jookmasta]

first off, he posted pics on the first page of the thread. now just judging from the pics, the valences are slanted due to the fact that they look to be made at an angle? seems like a 20 degree slope. maybe the OP can hold a ruler to it to show how it is slanted but that's the impression i'm getting from his pic.

[mat180]

yes they do look slanted bu they appear to be set that way on purpose

there seems t be a gap on the udnerside tail end pice meaning he could he could raise the outside right angle, (the part slanted down)

or

lowert he inside right ange, (part slanted up, going over the line) to where it should be

[adrianfromthecastle]

anyone have any pics of the bings 180sx 3pc. rear valance?

[amolao]

He didn't mount the valences the wrong way...that's the way they will sit on the car. Out of 3 cases I seen (counting me...), all three fitted like that. Maybe the thread tittle is not fair and subjective. They might be some valences out there that were laid and pulled correctly from the molds. But to be fair to the seller and buyer, I think the following statements are correct:

When buying FRP parts, be prepared to do some work to make it fit....

The pics used by Bings showing the valences are innacurate....

I'm not complaining myself, these valences are a cheaper option and if you don't mind the extra work, go for it.

[mat180]

im not calling out the op or anything, but i think they only need to be tweaked ever so slightly and youll see that you have a good fit

my oem valances are the same way

[mat180]

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if you move the inside edge down, that will give you more play to move the outer section up, and that will bring the circled area up to mathc the body line and will snug it better with the bumper line

my oem vlances act the same way if there not mounted exact

my 2 cents

before bolting it to nything, use two way tape and force it to sit where it should, then bolt everything down

you should also keep the two way tape behind the valance anyways along with bolts, i have both for mine, makes a more snug fit

[nocwage]

And max, give me a break, yeah you drove it for 1000km, but you owned it for over a year. Do that to any business, you're out of warentee period and he was still willing to have it fixed. You turned it down, thats not his problem.

Now i'm not a huge supporter of his, especilly since whats happened recently with andrew, but i'll still defend him against you, max, and ian's rediculous accusations.

Grow up.

So I imagined my exhaust broke? It's not an accusation when it's true..

I don't want to get something fixed when it will just tear out again. The first time it broke it cracked my custom made manifold and I've been trying to save it since. The welds on the exhaust didn't fail, the METAL AROUND IT did. Also the folks that don't live in southern ontario won't even have that option if they have problems.

I just want people to know what they are getting into. Bing's stuff is the same made in china garbage you see all over ebay. If you're willing to 'save' money now at greater cost along the road then by all means buy bing. I made that mistake and I never will buy discount stuff again.

You too can start a buisness like his, just check out Alibaba:

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/s....html

If you look through you'll eventually find almost all of his parts.

[onosqv]

first off, he posted pics on the first page of the thread.

Ok, I didn't notice that - I did notice the picture, didn't know that was what the OP was talking about...

From my experience w/ body kits... that fitment wasn't bad at all - doesn't match what the first post stated... it just requires some work, like every knock off body kit piece.

[slyedog240sx]

no body kit fits perfect.Not even close.When we installed my kit i had a lot of work to do.The valances or quarter skirts i call them were the easiest to fit.Like i said in my post at the top of page 2 my valances were for a hatch.A little fiberglass work and they fit well.Unless you go spend 1000+ on a veilside or bomex kit you will have to make the peices work.

[!matt]

So I imagined my exhaust broke? It's not an accusation when it's true..

I don't want to get something fixed when it will just tear out again. The first time it broke it cracked my custom made manifold and I've been trying to save it since. The welds on the exhaust didn't fail, the METAL AROUND IT did. Also the folks that don't live in southern ontario won't even have that option if they have problems.

I just want people to know what they are getting into. Bing's stuff is the same made in china garbage you see all over ebay. If you're willing to 'save' money now at greater cost along the road then by all means buy bing. I made that mistake and I never will buy discount stuff again.

You too can start a buisness like his, just check out Alibaba:

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/s....html

If you look through you'll eventually find almost all of his parts.

I never said it didn't break i said you had owned it for over a year and thus were out of warranty, and he still offered to have it fixed, his warranty policy is clearly stated.

I've ran into this problem with my 2003 Jetta. I had a suspension problem 6 months after the warranty period ended. Should VW be responsible to fix it? The car only has 65000km on it, it's below the millage warranted, but over the years(btw, vw didn't and won't fix it for free, or even pay for labor).

If you're going to let people know that you had something break tell the entire story, don't leave bits and pieces out to make it look like you got screwed.

[boost_creep]

has anyone tried the garage-13 coupe valances? do they look similar to the jdm valances? or should i go with the bings?

[Jookmasta]

neither IMO. bings needs to make a new mold from what i see and with garage 13, the pic on the site is bad enough to say that you would be purchasing a product without seeing what it looks like. honestly, i'm just gonna go back to hunting on ebay for a decently priced pair of rear valences without damage. sux but hey the car is 14 years old so some parts must become hard to find eventually.................

[boost_creep]

thanks for the info jook. i took your advice and found a pair of used jdm ones on ebay.i got them for $150 shipped from japanland! im posting this to give you guys in need of these a little tip. dont give up when you search valance and you get nothing.i found a nice pair under "s13 silvia rear under spoiler". just figured id help you guys out.

[Jookmasta]

nice find boost creep! seems to be a bit damaged but not too shabby in the least. congrats though on the find as they truly are hard to come by. post pics when u get it on the car!