Do I really need a racing harness bar?

[240DRFTluver]

I'm looking into getting seats and driver's side harness but i heard that i should get a racing harness bar. now i was also going to get my car caged but not anytime soon. Should i just wait on the harness, get the bar, or bolt the harness to the floor?

[wanganss13]

Just get some eye bolts, There is a how to in the tech pages on how to do this with out the Harness bar. Here is the link, good luck. http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=222420

[OM3GA]

Cross the belts so they make an X behind the seat and attach to the rear seat belt location. IIRC they cannot be at anything more than a 45 degree angle.

[KC240SR]

DO NOT get a harness without a cage, you can cause serious damage to your spine during even a low-speed collision, it is not worth it.

[wanganss13]

Thats one of the best quotes i've seen by far kc240sr. I do the same thing but with out the mittens.

[KC240SR]

haha, thats been in my sig since my 3rd day on here. it still makes me laugh.

[OutToWinPAHC]

No cage, no harness

[pedobear-lovin]

wtf is with ppl saying no cage no harness? you can just get a harness bar, which is in the exact same location, and serves the exact same purpose, but without all the extra caging. the ONLY danger is improper angel in the harness when you install it. if you install the straps to low in the car, THEN you have a chance of compressing your spine.

just drop the dollar for a harness bar. save your money. plus it does stiffen your car a little.
Modified by pedobear-lovin at 2:28 PM 11/6/2009

[nwmrkt]

he means in the event of a rollover, you will not be able to slide/move out of the way because the harness won't allow you two. Whereas the stock 3point will let you move.

[moulton712]

he means in the event of a rollover, you will not be able to slide/move out of the way because the harness won't allow you two. Whereas the stock 3point will let you move.

not being a d!ck, but this is actually for any collision.

in a front end collision at impact your seat moves forward, if your seat belt tiedowns on a 4 pt (or 5 pt) harness are on the ground then this will make the force from the harness to your shoulders in a down ward force. this will compress your spine and may cause you to become paralyzed.

harness bars are weak, in a crash they will bend or also break at the mounting points. this will cause your harness to not properly secure you.

stop trying to be cool and get a harness without properly mounting it. cause when your in a wheel chair, it's cool to put your harness on that too.

[OutToWinPAHC]

wtf is with ppl saying no cage no harness? you can just get a harness bar, which is in the exact same location, and serves the exact same purpose, but without all the extra caging. the ONLY danger is improper angel in the harness when you install it. if you install the straps to low in the car, THEN you have a chance of compressing your spine.

just drop the dollar for a harness bar. save your money. plus it does stiffen your car a little.

Modified by pedobear-lovin at 2:28 PM 11/6/2009

Yup so your all 5 point in and flip your car. ..... kinda sucks when the roof goes lower then your head.

[neverlift]

not being a d!ck, but this is actually for any collision.

in a front end collision at impact your seat moves forward, if your seat belt tiedowns on a 4 pt (or 5 pt) harness are on the ground then this will make the force from the harness to your shoulders in a down ward force. this will compress your spine and may cause you to become paralyzed.

harness bars are weak, in a crash they will bend or also break at the mounting points. this will cause your harness to not properly secure you.

stop trying to be cool and get a harness without properly mounting it. cause when your in a wheel chair, it's cool to put your harness on that too.

I have back problems..... you dont want to f*** with it. I am thinking about 'accidentally' cutting my friends harness its not crossed/ i told him... its not at the right angle/told him....he has no cage/told him yet again...

[edmontontom22]

i dont know a whole lot about if it would f*** up you or your car. but i do know that they are on clearance right now on the mazworx site

[swift240sx]

or just dont flip your car... or get a 4 point that has a strap that will break and extend in a crash so you dont submarine and your shoulder can roll to the side like a three point. yadadamean?

[safin]

I want to see some crashed s13s. Since I started driving other cars more often than the hatch. Now each time I drive it, just does not seem or feel safe....

[mattblancarte]

Every time I drive my car without a helmet (street use), I pretty much look at it as being on the level of motorcycle danger.

Since I started driving other cars more often than the hatch. Now each time I drive it, just does not seem or feel safe....

Compared to the other cars I drive, the 240 is a death-trap for street use.

[240DRFTluver]

Just get some eye bolts, There is a how to in the tech pages on how to do this with out the Harness bar. Here is the link, good luck. http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=222420

Thanks.

[wanganss13]

No problem. I have a 4 point trust harness that I was going to put on with that tech page but Like every one else here said I dont want to f up my back. So now I am saving up for a roll cage, until then my harness is just catching dust in my garage. Good luck with the install and your choice of rout.

[Shift_Kouki]

+1 to the people saying no cage, no harness.

You have to know the saftey reasons behind what you're doing when you put in that kind of safety equipment.

[brizanden]

Compared to the other cars I drive, the 240 is a death-trap for street use.

especially s13s they are tiny and basically the whole dam thing is a crumple zone.