*Dissapointed in Fla S13*

Post by **sprfst240** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

So a couple of weeks ago i bought fla s13's ca19 block with grex pistons ect. I get it and immediatelly i notice some severe scoring in the #3 cylinder. So i decide to investigate further by pulling the crank and pistons out. I took the oil pan off first to check for any metal peices. I was overjoyed to find some peices of what looked like the oil scavenging ring. So by then i knew the #3 piston must have a broken oil scavenging ring. My guess was confirmed.....in addition the #3 piston looks like its fried. The ring lands have some metal melded over them. SO i was quite shocked because Fla S13 assured me that the block was fine and it had a fresh rebuild 3k miles ago. I took some pics and sent them to him and asked for some of my money back. He replied saying that the motor ran fine while in the car and that he needs to talk to his dad about any refund. So that was a week or more ago and still no reply to any of my recent e-mails. I tried working this out between me and him but it seems im not getting through to him. I know there are other guys in the the florida area that know dj, and i was hoping someone would possibly put in a few words for me....or at least make him realize that what he did was messed up even if he doesnt give me any money back. Not trying to sturr up anything huge here just saying things how they are and hoping for some help. ON another note....i would really like to get my car up and running. And im pretty clueless how to find 1 grex piston. I could always rebuild my other stock bore block but i would really like to get the 1.9 going. SO if anyone has any bright ideas dont be affraid to chime in. Thanks in advanceBlake KeirnesSammamish, Washington

Post by **boost_boy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Blake,

I personally am sorry that you are having this problem. Unfortunately, this doesn't surprise me. I traded another member my cams for the cams out of the head off the same engine and the intake camshaft snapped. I too haven't heard from the individual I traded with who was also a well-liked member in the CA forums. It's sad that you have to go through this, but this trading or uttering of worthless parts have to stop. Some of you guys can't afford a smack in the face like that. Some may even try to blame it on you as it happened to me. One thing about me is, money is not an issue, but the principle is what's the focus. Don't take my goods and give me crap. Dj seemed pretty cool and hopefully he'll respond and not leave you out there on "screwed street" . I really am going to recommend banning anyone who knowingly offer defective parts and then stop participating in the discussions of the CA commmunity. To me, it's an admission of "Guilt" . So Dj, get with Blake and straighten this mess out, please. I will be watching the outcome of this as well.

Sincerely,

D'Angelo

Post by **float_6969** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

I couldn't agree more. If you trade parts on here and aren't satisfied with the purchase and can't work it out with them, let us moderators know and we'll do the best that we can to get the situation taken care of. On the same note, Dee, shoot me and email about this and about Jon, I'd like a little update on the whole deal. Thanks.

Post by **sprfst240** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

I appreciate the support. That is what i love about the CA forums.... I honestly have not seen more outgoing support from any others I have ventured to including rx7club, which is a big community. Ill been in and out of rehab coming up but i will try and stay in touch. Thanks againBlake

Post by **LoserbabyS13** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

you may want give him a few more days I know that the hurricane in FL was bad and he might have been hit dont know. I do know that there are still people there without power so his non-responce could because of that. Anyway I am truly sorry about the block I was actually looking at getting but fortunately for me I did not have the funds when I needed them for it.

Post by **nocwage** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

If you've got it in writing, even e-mails, and can prove that the damage the motor has would have affected the engine in an obvious way you can just sue him for your money back.

Post by **Rookie_ca18** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

I dont think to sue him would be the best idea just yet, give him a couple of days and if no response try to have some1 get incontact with him physically. He seemed like a pretty cool person so hopefully he will take care of this without any crazy antics or excuses.

Post by **boost_boy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

But the biggest thing here guys is, if you know your car is having issues, don't up and jump ship and start selling parts until you're 110% sure the parts you are selling are not damaged. As stated before, this has happened to one too many of our members before and have possibly screwed-up good friendships because of it. I am man enough to fess-up for my mistakes, but this issue has clearly gotten out of control. I will give Dj a few days to sort out the issues in upper florida because of the storm before I go to the forum owners and administrators and advise them of what's really happening. It's amazing what one dogged-out engine, one good member, an attempt to recover a few dollars, and a bunch of hungry CA owners looking for performance parts can cause. I take it the damage came because sprfst240 bought the block and decided to inspected it! Hopefully we can get this issue cleared up. Dj, I hope good friendship isn't worth a few $$$s and a part. I have learned another valuable lesson here and I for one won't be letting that happen again. We have scammers, little boys and cowards amongst us. So all should do a self-check "Which one am I" ?

Dee

Post by **DriftinNC** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

well, i can kinda join in on what sprfst240 is saying... in 1 of dj's post about all that stuff he had for sale, i bought the 440cc injectors from him about 2 months ago, he emailed me about 1 month ago and told me he got the money i sent him and that he would send them out the next day, they havent gotten here yet and ive tried to email him about them several times and no response

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Well, I am not sticking up to no one, but from what I heard and I have seen on TV, the storm was pretty bad, so he might have lost his house(God forbids) and have no way of contacting this forum. So, if any one lives close to him and willing to pay him a visit, that might answer some questions.Thats the worst case senorio or the guy just trying to ignore you which is not the right way to do it

Good luck to you and keep us updated.

Thanks,

PULSAR GTR

Post by **boost_boy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Quote »Well, I am not sticking up to no one, but from what I heard and I have seen on TV, the storm was pretty bad, so he might have lost his house(God forbids) and have no way of contacting this forum.[/quote] Sorry rafi, I don't buy that storm thing anymore. I live in Fla. as well and my condolences goes out to most of the people in western and central florida, but things are getting back to normal and when you have people's money or have business with them, it just like the mail service "business as usual" . Even a phone call or an email to say "listen guys I haven't forgotten you" will suffice. But to not respond to emails is not cool and I do tend to not be as tolerant towards this type of behavior. But then again, they could probably care less as to what happens to their existence on this forum. Even if you have had a bad experience with the CA and now want an SR20, don't screw over the people you started a transaction with. Sad place to learn a lesson, but I guess we never stop learning, huh!

Dee

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Boost boy, you know the area more than me, I only saw the thing on TV and looked horrible, but then again, you live there and you know it better.

there is no excuse for selling something that is defective and not responding to the buyer, in my book that is as bad as theft, but what I meant may be he was hurt in the storm, but then again "sprfst240" tried to getta hold of him way before teh storm hit, so I guess he got no excuse but to respond to his emails.

Any one lives close to that dude, might want to drop by and see what his story/problem is?

Good luck sprfst240 with your problem

PULSAR GTR

Post by **boost_boy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Quote »there is no excuse for selling something that is defective and not responding to the buyer, in my book that is as bad as theft, but what I meant may be he was hurt in the storm, but then again "sprfst240" tried to getta hold of him way before teh storm hit, so I guess he got no excuse but to respond to his emails.[/quote] Don't worry man, I'm not coming down on you, but it has to stop somewhere. We've gotten a lot of new members and we don't want them to think that there are scammers, whiners, and corruption in our forums. Makes no sense to ban people like that because that basically puts them in the driver's seat. It's just a touchy subject that's going to screw up the good-trade comraderie we have here in the CA community. I truly hope this can be resolved, like I stated before.

Dee

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Ya, I hear you about new members, definitely we don't want to give them the wrong impression that they can be scammed or they can scam others.The CA community is a small one and is getting bigger bit by bit but you definitely said it better "quote "we don't want them to think that there are scammers, whiners, and corruption in our forums""

I do still believe that our CA forum is one of the best out there and all that can be pointed on lots of honest memebers on this fourm and good moderation and I am not kissing up lol.

PULSAR GTR

Post by **boost_boy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Quote »I do still believe that our CA forum is one of the best out there and all that can be pointed on lots of honest memebers on this fourm and good moderation and I am not kissing up lol.[/quote] I agree. And I am proud to help ensure that it stays that way. And with the help of guys like yourself, we can keep this place just the way we know it "happily busy";) .

Dee

Post by **drumma022** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Life did not stop because of the storm. I'm in Orlando and all is well to my knowledge. That was 2 weeks ago.

To the post: I only saw DJ's car once back when he had gotten the motor up and running and IIRC he was happy with everything. T

The only problem I have about ANY forum is that people are quick to jump to the conclusion, assume what had happened, and quick to point the finger. In this case, I see a relation on how a snapped cam could have a bearing on how sprfst240 discovered the condition of the motor.

I personally know and can attest to portions of the history of that motor and if anybody has any questions to any part of it can AIM me.

Godzilla240sxEnjuku Ray

I am upset to hear the eventual condition of that motor and hope to see better news come out of it.

--Ray--

Post by **boost_boy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Well Ray, I ate my losses with your old camshafts. I'm not a machinist, so I can't totally point the finger at anybody. I didn't have any proof that the integrity was jeopardized, so I squashed it. I have some doubts about the work done on my head from my machinist because he's nervous about the new camshafts I have. You learn and you move on. I have no issues with no one; even the broke @$$ college students:D .

Dee

Post by **float_6969** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Let it go man, just let it go. Were you molested by a broke college student as a child or something? There seems to be a deep rooted problem that keeps reoccuring that I think you need to get some help with. I know this real good shrink....I mean I've HEARD ABOUT this real good shrink....

Post by **Nathan** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

I'm really sorry to hear what happened to you

I almost got screwed similarly way back in the day (everyone here probably knows...) My number 1 rule for buying rebuilt motors that you didn't oversee the work done on is to not buy them. The risks are just too high and even if you DO oversee the work, there are still a ton of thigns that can go wrong in the rebuilding process. I dont trust anyone on that kinda stuff anymore.

Post by **boost_boy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Quote »Let it go man, just let it go. Were you molested by a broke college student as a child or something? There seems to be a deep rooted problem that keeps reoccuring that I think you need to get some help with. I know this real good shrink....I mean I've HEARD ABOUT this real good shrink....[/quote] Hey-Hey who rattled your stinkin' cage buddy!:D I have college up my ying-yang as well as work, cars, guns that I collect, money owed to me, monies I owe, prick moderators (ooops, my bad;)) .......

Dee

Post by **float_6969** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

You're just sore cuz I said I wouldn't have your babies....

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

So, if some how you managed to have his baby, your a moderator and he is a moderator, does that mean your baby is going to be a "baby moderator".God have mercy on our soles if thats the case, we will be all banned lmao

PULSAR GTRRafi

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Speaking of Bannings: CA Mods, just let me know what you want me to do.I'll leave it up to your judgement.

Fred..

Post by **boost_boy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:30 am

Quote »Speaking of Bannings: CA Mods, just let me know what you want me to do.[/quote] Fred, good you chimed-in on this because there was one memeber in mind. I'll email you about the details later. And I've already had a chat with Ryan on the matter as well. And don't worry guys, the majority of you are healthy to have around and I mean that from the bottom of 'Deez Nuts':owned

Dee

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