discount tire life time tire warranty

[themadscientist]

Right is right, wrong is wrong, period. I don't always do right, but when I slip, I don't forget and I don't try to justify it.

Leroy, you are a scumbag and I have no respect for you. It would be great if you just left.

[PoorManQ45]

All this thread is personal attacks against Leroy and PMQ. I think they get the message. It won't change how they feel or what they do. I don't agree with it but I also have not experienced what they have. I have not lived in their shoes so I can't rip them apart for it but I can express my distaste for what a person is doing while trying to show him how some thing like this hurts us all, with out name-calling.

Nah, everyone has their own viewpoint and ethical lines.

I bet some of these high and mighty folk would say that I was a bad person for going to a garage sale and buying an item for $1 that I knew was worth much more but didn't tell the seller.

Everyone has done something like this, maybe not to this extent, but something similar to take advantage of a person/company to make their lives easier.

I understand what you guys are pissed about. This idiot is blatantly stealing, that's a little bold for me, but that's where his line is. He found a hole in the system to exploit, there ya go.

Question: If you guys were the manager at the local DT shop and a person with a truck came in every month or so with nails in the tire wouldn't you simply ask what happened? The truck is probably used near or on a construction site. This company is not stupid when they offered this warranty. There has to be something on the back end that we're not seeing. Where do the tires go? Do they simply get destroyed or do they go somewhere for refurbishing/reuse?

[AZhitman]

I don't understand why threads like these last so long.

Because if we were there in person, it'd be over real fast.

One good hard smack to the back of the head, then march his stupid a$$ into the store to fess up and apologize to the manager, and it'd be over.

Unfortunately, distance (and attorneys) prohibit us from doing things the RIGHT way, so here we are.

[AZhitman]

I bet some of these high and mighty folk would say that I was a bad person for going to a garage sale and buying an item for $1 that I knew was worth much more but didn't tell the seller.

Ummm, no. There's no deception involved.

I don't begrudge ANYONE getting a "smoking deal" or even finding a "diamond in the rough". That's just life, and I'm a Capitalist - if you can get something cheaper, and are willing to absorb the risk of lesser quality - do it.

Everyone has done something like this, maybe not to this extent, but something similar to take advantage of a person/company to make their lives easier.

Don't project your moral failings onto the rest of us. You don't know this.

I understand what you guys are pissed about. This idiot is blatantly stealing, that's a little bold for me, but that's where his line is. He found a hole in the system to exploit, there ya go.

THat's not a "hole in the system". That's misrepresentation and deception. It's actually called fraud, by definition. Look it up.

Question: If you guys were the manager at the local DT shop and a person with a truck came in every month or so with nails in the tire wouldn't you simply ask what happened? The truck is probably used near or on a construction site. This company is not stupid when they offered this warranty. There has to be something on the back end that we're not seeing. Where do the tires go? Do they simply get destroyed or do they go somewhere for refurbishing/reuse?

Nails in the tread (very common) are easily repaired. They do it FREE, even for non-customers. That's a HUGE freebie.

THIS guy (the OP) is punching a hole in the sidewall to render the tire un-repairable under DT's policy (by law they can't repair a sidewall puncture).

The tires that are unrepairable are sent to the same place the worn-out tires are sent to - A recyling / reclamation facility. They are not "refurished" or "reused".

Please think. Otherwise, you're gonna have to go sit at the little kids' table.

[PoorManQ45]

Greg you're the best

*edit* what is wrong with the emoticons lately?

[AZhitman]

Tell your Dad he owes me... These are lessons he should have taught.

Not sure on the emoticons... will check.

[PoorManQ45]

Tell your Dad he owes me... These are lessons he should have taught.

Tell you what, I'll give you a high five if i ever make it to one of the Nico events

[Xdisaster240sX]

Hey Greg...

[szh]

I bet some of these high and mighty folk would say that I was a bad person for going to a garage sale and buying an item for $1 that I knew was worth much more but didn't tell the seller.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

This above is not at all an issue in my book ... and not comparable to the original post. What you describe here is a voluntary act, the seller is setting a price for what he/she wants to sell at - not doing anything deliberate and intentional to defraud you and you are not doing anything to defraud them. The fact that you might get a good deal is life.

Everyone has done something like this, maybe not to this extent, but something similar to take advantage of a person/company to make their lives easier.

There is a distinct difference between getting the best deal you can for yourself and committing an unethical act for gain at the expense of the other person or company. In some industries (see below), this would constitute fraud that can lead to jail sentences.

He found a hole in the system to exploit, there ya go.

No. He is committing intentional fraud. Taking a used tire and intentionally puncturing a hold in the sidewall (so that it is no longer legally repairable and requires replacement) is not the same as an accident where the tire is accidentally damaged. I bet he does this well before the tread life has truly gone, BTW!

Think of how life insurance works. The cost of the insurance is based on the statistics of how and when a particular death may or may not occur. Rates rise and drop when the statistics shift. In this industry, intentional fraud is punishable with jail sentences.

When I buy tire insurance, both Discount Tire and I are taking different kinds of risks. I risk the money outlaid for that insurance - I may never collect. Discount Tire risks that I may have a tire failure and they will have to replace a tire for me for free. Over time, and statistics, it all evens out.

If I (and more people) were to do what the OP recommended, then the statistics get skewed and cost rises for everybody (potentially to the point where Discount Tire can not provide this insurance for an effective price). That is unfair to both Discount Tire and to the honest people.

Z

[Mr1der]

I like threads like this because the level headed youth of society usually outnumber the dips***s by a staggering amount.

[MaximA32]

Question: If you guys were the manager at the local DT shop and a person with a truck came in every month or so with nails in the tire wouldn't you simply ask what happened? The truck is probably used near or on a construction site. This company is not stupid when they offered this warranty. There has to be something on the back end that we're not seeing. Where do the tires go? Do they simply get destroyed or do they go somewhere for refurbishing/reuse?

I'm an asst manager at a Big O here in southern California. I can tell you that I've had to use my discretion and common sense at times on when to honor the Tire Protection Plan (TPP) I will say that the number of good, honest people out there far outnumber the a$$ such as Leroy. PMQ, the tires get put in the scrap bin and picked up by a licensed scrap tire removal company. They go from there into a grinder to get turned into new rubber, used as a base material for asphalt or used instead of sand in playgrounds. There are some companies that send them to Latin America to be sold as "retreads." but the company we deal with does not do that.

[Rev_D21]

Really, how many times do people have to define fraud before someone here gets it?

[zerepdivad]

I hit up the used tires for 20 bucks places around here.

[dusred]

I didn't expect any less, a few weeks ago I had a conversation with him about Haiti.

Yeah, that was quite the conversation.

PMQ and LeroyBrown, I suggest you get the book written by Dave Ramsey called "The Total Money Makeover" which explains why selfish people stay poor.

[PoorManQ45]

Yeah, that was quite the conversation.

It was indeed.

PMQ and LeroyBrown, I suggest you get the book written by Dave Ramsey called "The Total Money Makeover" which explains why selfish people stay poor.

You know what, I am going to go to the book store and read that book while there, but never buy it.

[szh]

You know what, I am going to go to the book store and read that book while there, but never buy it.

Figures.

Use a library. At least, there, it is not unethical to do this.

Z

[dusred]

Here is a shirt for you, PMQ

[PoorManQ45]

Figures.

Use a library. At least, there, it is not unethical to do this.

Z

Wait, don't book stores put the comfortable chairs in there so you can read the books and magazines?

Here is a shirt for you, PMQ

Where can I get that shirt!

[Red coupe]

Uhhhh, so Greg... after clicking a link I see this thread...Let me quote here.

I think my press was $80... and if you recently paid for an alignment, you drive it back in there and say, "Something's not right" after you swap the bushings.

Regardless, you're about halfway to having an insanely well-built rear end.

Wait. Wut?

How are you going to bash the hell out of that one dude for scamming the tire company by punching holes in his tires, then recommend that people go back and complain about alignments that were done perfectly fine after they tamper with the suspension.

Granted it is not exactly the same... But it is damn well close enough. You may not be scamming goods, but your scamming free labor and you know it because you are deliberately avoiding telling them that that something is not right because you took it all apart.f***ing weak dude.

[AZhitman]

It makes me smile to know how hard you searched to find that.

Guess you'll have to find a new hero.

[Red coupe]

It makes me smile to know how hard you searched to find that.

Guess you'll have to find a new hero.

I didn't search at all.This thread is on the top page talking about scammers and ends with the guy saying to check the thread I linked to for proof that it is all worked out.

But really, that is a pretty good way for you to skirt the issue... try and take a sarcastic jab at me...It doesn't matter how hard I did or did not look for that, its f***ing ridiculous you damn near run this guy off the forum, link to his information and email the tire store when your taking advantage of them to.

[AZhitman]

But really, that is a pretty good way for you to skirt the issue... try and take a sarcastic jab at me...

No need to skirt anything. Nice work, you've exposed me. Not even sure I'll be able to sleep tonight.

p.s. What's even funnier is how much faith you place in everything I post. Are you SURE I contacted anyone or followed through on anything? Are you SURE I haven't talked to that guy via email? Hmmmm?

Sleep well.

[PoorManQ45]

Uhhhh, so Greg... after clicking a link I see this thread...Let me quote here.

How are you going to bash the hell out of that one dude for scamming the tire company by punching holes in his tires, then recommend that people go back and complain about alignments that were done perfectly fine after they tamper with the suspension.

Granted it is not exactly the same... But it is damn well close enough. You may not be scamming goods, but your scamming free labor and you know it because you are deliberately avoiding telling them that that something is not right because you took it all apart.f***ing weak dude.

I personally go to Tire Kingdom for alignments. I pay $99 and they give me a 1 year warranty on the alignment. The conditions do not specify that suspension work is against the warranty. They also say that you can come back as many times as you would like.

I typically get ~4~6 alignments a year

[ScrapMetal]

[AZhitman]

The conditions do not specify that suspension work is against the warranty. They also say that you can come back as many times as you would like.

Same with my place, and there's no difference between drilling a curb or replacing a part... only limitation is that it's non-transferable... but I'll let RC think he's finally got me.

Network Alignment. 61st Ave / Bethany Home Road. Talk to Chuck, he's known me since '87. I've probably put one of his kids through college, with all the business I bring / send them.

I typically get ~4~6 alignments a year

While I doubt this, if it's true, you need a hobby.

[PoorManQ45]

While I doubt this, if it's true, you need a hobby.

This was on the station wagon. Usually it was after I replaced parts. 1st was just an alignment. 2nd was after struts. 3rd was after outer tie rods. 4th was after inner tie rods... etc...

I replaced all the bushings too. So it was probably more then I stated

Same with my place, and there's no difference between drilling a curb or replacing a part... only limitation is that it's non-transferable... but I'll let RC think he's finally got me.

I agree 100%. Any company that would make a stink over those two being different is not going to be getting my money again.

The way you said it though seemed shady. I make sure to say, "I need an alignment. I just changed *insert suspension part here*. My phone number is ...", and they are fine with that.

Network Alignment. 61st Ave / Bethany Home Road. Talk to Chuck, he's known me since '87. I've probably put one of his kids through college, with all the business I bring / send them.

Awesome! Long time shops are the best. My family has used the same shop for 20+ years. Unfortunately they expanded to a new shop and the workmanship has decreased

[AZhitman]

The way you said it though seemed shady.

Yeah, it did.

I probably also failed to mention that any shop that gets my business, if they do a good job, is GLAD to see me a second time.

I almost ALWAYS hook up the tech with a tip, I'm ALWAYS being asked for recommendations and send good shops a lot of business, and since I save a lot by doing most of my work myself, I almost NEVER quibble over the list rate when I *do* take something in to a shop.

Huge difference from punching holes in sidewalls to get free tires time after time.

So, there's really no "oh snap" involved...

[PoorManQ45]

So, there's really no "oh snap" involved...

You big meanie! *runs away crying*

[Kelbizzle]

I don't knock anyone's hustle... leroy do your thing just keep things like this to yourself HAHAHA. The same goes for your drug habit.

I have a scam of my own to beat emmissions every year.

[93coupe]

How about one for inspection?