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ive looked thru the search button 4 this already but i still havnt gotten much useful information so could sumone please tell me whats the difference between these motors? or give me a site or link to look up the information on

ca18de/det - 4 cylinder , 1.8 liter , how much hp and tq?sr20det - 4 cylinder , 2.0 liter , how much hp and tq?rb20de/rb20det - how many cylinders? litres? hp and tq?rb25de/rb25det - how many cylinders liters hp and tq?rb26dett - 6 cylinder 2.6liter 280 horses?

id really appreciate it if sumone could also tell me if newer models of those motors have more hp and if they do then how much ?

and could sumone also tell me which of these engines are aluminium blocks and which are iron?

thx a lot


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try this for startershttp://www.sr20detinfo.com/Default.htm

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CA18DET 145-175hp(depending on model)SR20DET 205-250HP(depending on model)RB20DET 190-215hp(depending on model)RB25DET 250hpRB26DETT 280hp(advertised, more like 320hp)

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Mad what are the main differanced between the Ca18det's????

did the motors have differant options on them ?? i know i have a factory oil cooler, yet another person around me doesnt! that type of stuff!!

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damn deres a whole lotta haterz in here. they closed my other thread so ima continue in here. da reason i lost so many races is cuz i have an 88 sentra wit a 90 horsepower 1.6 liter engine compared to the vtec civic hatch i raced which had around 120 horses and a lot less weight. also if it makes sense to any of those idiots dat modify deir cars den u shud know what kinda results u get on a dead stock old weak car. and yes to top it all off it is an automatic another dread. and as far as my typing goes yes i can type formally like normal people but its just not me. i dont get the big idea of typing the whole sentence out when i could just use abbreviations to make it shorter and less work for myself. and as far as any other comments go i could drop a front wheel drive sr20det in my current ride but i seriously want a rear wheel drive to seperate myself from all those honda/acura drivers. late

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Just so you know, even tho you find it easier to use text slang, many people will still hate you for doing it. I aint gonna say anything cuz I can tolerate it, but many people here will not tolerate it. just a warning.

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Im not "hating" but how does writing 'dat' instead of 'that' save you so much work? It is just really annoying to read and I cant help but think of a 16 year old internet thug wannabe potsmoker when I read text like that. Not saying that you are, but thats the image it produces. Anyways, dont take this the wrong way, to each his own. Type how you want to.

EDIT: I just read your signature...heheh

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i sure as hell hope u dont talk that way

anyways, why the **** are you racing w/ a 90 hp auto sentra?

wtf? r u stupid? get a real car...or a tricycle or something

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Lets just hope AZhitman doesnt get ahold of him. And he's close to him, give or take a few staes...

I read in your other post about the suspension on a mustang. you said its racing set up from the factory. that may be so, but they still handle like sh**. too big, too heavy, and non-responsive. same with F-bodies. I see the same stuff all the time here at my school. Some guy who bought a V8 F-body and put around $4-$5k into the motor and he runs 12s or 11s, but the car cant take turns at all. Some vuy has a Z28 and the thing has a racing wheel set up. Big fat ties in the rear, little thin wheels in the front....all on stck suspension. for a car that must be fast :rolleyes why would you have little 9 inch rotors on it to stop it...

The only thing they have over the import guys is easy power and reliability, and with the older muscle cars kick a** looks and bad a** reputations... Its easier to build up a V8 to 500hp with no problems than it is to build a CA to SR to that much and be safe. but thats the glory of it. A V8 guy can say, "just an exhaust and a super charger, nothing much else"Import guys can brag that they took a stock motor that originated in a truck that stops making power around 55ooRPMs and say they now make over 400hp with tons of custom hand made stuff. that takes skills.

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alrite alrite ill try to type everything out for you slang and abbrev illiterates. i think im getting a job at del taco. im not sure because the manager plays mind games with me telling me to come back each time and saying well we will see from there. although he made me fill out a work permit thing and explained the ground rules before the interview so hopefully ill have enuff money to be financially secure in buying a 92 240sx hatch and an sr20 blacktop swap for the time being. anyways elektrick has been most understanding and NICE in his reply so thanx for the heads up. festino thanks for the point of view reply really helped. mainevent212 my sentra is a gift from my mom for getting my license so in other words i guess you could call it a hand me down in a sort of way but its been reliable and good to me. lasted me longer than any of my girlfriends and even though it was high maintenance it was well worth it til now. its starting to piss me off. uses too much gas. i travel around 20 miles a day 6 days a week on about 35 dollars of gas and my mom used it 6 days a week and 30 miles a day on 20 dollars of gas, where did i screw up? it has a new engine new tires new head gasket new front and rear brakes. and the reason im racing in it is because i currently have no other car, i love speed and racing once a while is what i do for fun. im not trying to modify the sentra even though ive seen body kits and front wheel drive sr20s for it just because the front wheel drive thing reminds me of hondas. megaseth thanks for the insight. greatly appreciated. hmm well my main subject for this forum was to ask about the different motors and i guess ive gotten half the information down but umm if anyone has any more information on them then please reply. i am pretty serious about getting a 240 and a swap asap.

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slw240sx wrote:Mad what are the main differanced between the Ca18det's????

did the motors have differant options on them ?? i know i have a factory oil cooler, yet another person around me doesnt! that type of stuff!!


I would think the S12 CA18 would have less Hp then the S13 CA18.TMS am i right?Same thing with the R31 Vs the R32 RB20

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hmmmm ca18et vs a ca18det one would think so right hehe.

IIRC the ca18et s12 engine put out 135hp.

edit: Killa I didnt read a damn thing you said after the first post. Grammar and paragraphs / spacing is your friend.... Just thought youd like to know...

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96s14se paragraphin yea i guess i cud use it on long replies thx 4 da comment. grammar? what bout my grammar? and as far as spacing goes i guess most ppl agree that tapping on the space bar once after every word is good enuff. so ur point again?

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what no replies?

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I thought you expressed my point exactly. Thus, a reply was not needed.

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Perhaps people are not "slang or abbrev illiterates" they just dont LIKE too have to read slang and interpret it. Especially when it is an improper abbreviation, for instance: abbrev is not a proper abbreviation of the word abbreviation. The word abbreviation has no proper abbreviation.

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is there such a thing as a proper abbreviation? i believe that the proper way to say something or to write something is in its full spelling punctuation and pronounciation so as far as a proper abbreviation goes, there cant be such a thing as a proper abbreviation. its just called an abbreviation.

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umm im still waiting for info on the motors :)

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im just wondering the differances in teh Ca18DET , DET... are there any differances in those motors from model to model!!

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umm for the guy who posted that he got beat in a race by a saturn i have to say i finally understand what you are saying. it was around 10 tonight and i was hella hungry. i went down to this great chinese place and got take away. so i headed back home at around 60 mph in a 45 zone and some idiot in a mercury cougar thinks im trying to race him so he steps on the gas and heads off and i leave him and let him go for the next 3 lights as he peels out on his take off. and then it happened. a 92-94 green saturn 4 door revs high coming from behind me in a 2 lane street and stopping in the lane beside me. i see an add on kit and a 2.5 inch exhaust and im thinking rice looking at 2 white dudes and a gurl. so he revs high peels out and leaves and im back at 60 mph til we meet at the next stop when i look at him and nod getting frustrated over the revving. he takes off just as quick as a stock integra gsr for the first 5 seconds but afterwards i keep pace with them and actually get closer from 3 to 1 car lane. we hit the next light and do it again. and finally the next light and a threepeat. i never thought i would see the day when i would lose to a saturn 3 times in a row but i guess you learn something new everyday.

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well hmm atleast some feedback would be nice...oh well. i changed my brakes again today after 3 weeks. it seems my calipers are bad so im driving on new brake pads until saturday when i have time to change my calipers. u know i love the word warranty since it comes in handy to get free parts at autozone. :) well anyways a couple of my homies are opening a racing team and well i have to say i do not like what i see. a 96 acura integra , 2 - 94 honda accords , a 91 corolla , a 99 civic si , an 01 accord , an s2000 , a 91 supra , a 00 civic ex , and a couple other cars. although i must say they are an extremely amusing bunch. their mods include an intake , headers , exhaust , tachometers , neon lights , cheap miscellaneus sound systems , heavyazz chrome rims , body kits , lowering springs , high aluminium spoilers , flashy spark plug wires and thats about it. yep mostly ricers but oh well. one of the idiots said his accord runs at around 13 seconds flat on the quarter mile...umm do i look dumb or did he time himself?

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thats great what are they gonna race? just on the street/drag or do they auto cross? what are they gonna call them selves? Ricer Race Stars perhaps. :batman

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slw240sx wrote:Mad what are the main differanced between the Ca18det's????

did the motors have differant options on them ?? i know i have a factory oil cooler, yet another person around me doesnt! that type of stuff!!
factory oil coolers came on autmatic turbo engines.

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themadscientist wrote:CA18DET 145-175hp(depending on model)SR20DET 205-250HP(depending on model)RB20DET 190-215hp(depending on model)RB25DET 250hpRB26DETT 280hp(advertised, more like 320hp)
what he said killa.

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K1LLA916K wrote:well hmm atleast some feedback would be nice...oh well. i changed my brakes again today after 3 weeks. it seems my calipers are bad so im driving on new brake pads until saturday when i have time to change my calipers. u know i love the word warranty since it comes in handy to get free parts at autozone. :) well anyways a couple of my homies are opening a racing team and well i have to say i do not like what i see. a 96 acura integra , 2 - 94 honda accords , a 91 corolla , a 99 civic si , an 01 accord , an s2000 , a 91 supra , a 00 civic ex , and a couple other cars. although i must say they are an extremely amusing bunch. their mods include an intake , headers , exhaust , tachometers , neon lights , cheap miscellaneus sound systems , heavyazz chrome rims , body kits , lowering springs , high aluminium spoilers , flashy spark plug wires and thats about it. yep mostly ricers but oh well. one of the idiots said his accord runs at around 13 seconds flat on the quarter mile...umm do i look dumb or did he time himself?
I have a question. What is this gay Team stuff supposed to do for it's paticipants other than satisfy a pathetic need to belong to something, anything? Also the guy with the 13 second Honda may have been going full speed when he started measuring the quarter mile, I mean he would still have a 13 second quarter so it's not like he's lying:pface

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SR20 red top 205hp 2.0 4cylinders13 black top 205hp 2.0 4 cylinders14 SR20 220hp 2.0 4 cylinders15 SR20 250hp 2.0 4 cylinder CA18det 180hp approximatly, as I understand it.1.8 4 cylinder

RB20det 200hp??? 2.0 6 cylinder single turboRB25det 250hp 2.5 6 cylinder single turboRB26dett 280hp 2.6 6 cylinder twin turbo

VG30dett 300hp 3.0 6 cylinder twin turbo

These are all approximations on horse power. I am not going into different years on engines and model's. You can find that on your own as it is really not needed info.

By what I am getting, you are still in high school or have just gotten out of school. In which case, your money situation is not the best. We have all been there. Well some rich guys, might not have. If I were you, I would be looking into the CA18 or SR20 red top, at the most. It is gonna cost you bare minimum $4000 to $5000 to get a motor and get it installed, depending which one you go. Not to mention the price of the car.

You may want to consider Turbo charging the KA24DE in the 92 you are planning to buy. Just a thought.

One other thing, you are gonna have to watch the gansta ling, as it is giving me a head ache to read.

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Also, to comment on Mad's statement.

Race team is just so Fast and Furious=GAY!

I think, car club is a better term.

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Next time you write a paragraph like that, maybe you would be so kind as to provide the Rosetta Stone needed to decipher it. *sigh* The English language is a mutilated, bleeding corpse.

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Meantime, Your signature makes me laugh. '01 Z28 is your beater car!!!! I need a beater like that.

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hmm first of all thanks for all the info jester and mads scientist. second of all the racing team or so called racing team doesnt have a name yet. well not that i know of and well i guess they will mostly drag and streetrace. now for part three on what jester said. yes i am still in high school with about 1500 saved up. im going to see a 91 240sx tomorrow being sold by an old couple for 1200$. and well as far as the swap is concerned i am still looking for a job to finance the swap but i am also planning on selling my current car which gives me atleast another 1000$. well i talked to the guy that owns the racing store around here and he said he could import me an sr20det redtop for 1800$ or a blacktop for $2400 with another 800$ for shipping costs. and well as far as the installation goes, my dad knows a mechanic who recently moved to the US. hes had about 40 years experience with nissans and toyotas in a third world country so he would perform the swap for 1000$ at most. as far as anything else goes im thinking about upgrading the motor slowly as i keep getting more money. ive also read a lot of the forums on this site and from most peoples advice i guess i will get my suspension done before the swap. most likely the next thing after the suspension will be the transmission. come to think of it im gonna need to brush up on my stickshift skills...im not really too experienced with a manual transmission. and from there the swap so yeah i guess its going to be a while but i am trying to get all of this done before i turn 18. hmm well now for the fourth and most important part of my reply.....umm what gangsta lingo is everyone talking about????? i started typing full words out without much abbreviations and still complaints. well anyways give me examples of what still needs work on in my speech.


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