Diesel in the gas tank.

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chazb225
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Ok guys, sorry in advance but Im new to the forum and i have no idea how this goes;
but here it goes.
SOOO the guy working at the gas station accidentally somehow filled up my gas tank with diesel. :facepalm:
He admitted the mistake and changed the fuel pump and cleaned the tank for free. I asked him about the fuel injectors and he said there was no damage to them. What i wanted to know was will this have any long term effect on my car? Should I be worried down the road? :confused:

Thanks and sorry if i posted incorrectly.



**EDIT
I have a 2.5 (the base model, don't laugh.)


QR25DE
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FAIL, this happened in an opposite way to a lady at a gas station one day near me. Half gas and half diesil into her Jetta TDI. The shop would not admit it so I told her about it. She ended up getting crappy milage but the car seemed fine.

Did you drive it at all after they filled it up? If you did then the diesil would have gone through the injectors etc. Honeslty it shouldnt cause any issues if it was only ran for a minute, but long driving you woudl see issues. I would have been suprised if the car would have even started an ran properly.

If they caught it right away and you did not run the car and they changed the pump and cleaned out the tank, then I wouldnt worry about it at all. Should be good to go. You're lucky the shop admitted to it.

chazb225
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I didn't realize at first and drove around for about an hour, probably until I ran out of gasoline which was still in the system and then the car just cranked. So I took it to the dealer and then went to the gas station. They paid for the towing fee and he got his mechanic to do it. It all happened about over a week.

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someone pumped your gas for you? :picard:

chazb225
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It's New York City. Most gas stations here aren't self service.

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chazb225 wrote:It's New York City. Most gas stations here aren't self service.
Figured. It's a bad idea but mandated. :( I just hate other people touchin ma s*** lol.

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Yeah but i had the car back for about 3 days now, and so far so good
theres nothing to worry about :dblthumb:

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Good to hear! :) I\d put some injector cleaner in it regardless.

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QR25DE wrote:Good to hear! :) I\d put some injector cleaner in it regardless.
What brand do you recommend? I was going to this without having diesel accidents.

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Motomaster works well:

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But most of them are the same. Lucas might be easier to find, or STP.

chazb225
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Guy at the shop told me Chevron is the best one.
Thought I'd give it a try, make sure to read the directions though.

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At the dealership where I work at, some lady put diesel into her brand spankin new cts v. ya, v. and she then tried running on it. I dont know the details that well, but the damage was substantial.

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chazb225 wrote:Guy at the shop told me Chevron is the best one.
Thought I'd give it a try, make sure to read the directions though.
As long as it's not Diesel, Sugar or Water you should be in the clear :P

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I have the QR25DE engine in my Rogue and my Nissan service manger strongly cautioned me against using any fuel additives, as the injectors in this engine are tipped with some unique alloy that could be damaged from use of certain injector cleaners. Who knows if he's correct but I wouldn't want to even risk damaging the injectors if there is the slightest chance he's right...perhaps go to a good shop and have them flush/clean the fuel system...just an idea, I know it's a lot more money but cheaping out isn't worth it if you get an inferior product.

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^^^You might want to look into that properly, most guys at the dealerships don't know s*** about the cars. They just try to sell.

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chazb225 wrote:^^^You might want to look into that properly, most guys at the dealerships don't know s*** about the cars. They just try to sell.
service manager does not equal salesman.

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downedzephyr wrote:
chazb225 wrote:^^^You might want to look into that properly, most guys at the dealerships don't know s*** about the cars. They just try to sell.
service manager does not equal salesman.

Good Point!

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kerrton wrote:I have the QR25DE engine in my Rogue and my Nissan service manger strongly cautioned me against using any fuel additives, as the injectors in this engine are tipped with some unique alloy that could be damaged from use of certain injector cleaners. Who knows if he's correct but I wouldn't want to even risk damaging the injectors if there is the slightest chance he's right...perhaps go to a good shop and have them flush/clean the fuel system...just an idea, I know it's a lot more money but cheaping out isn't worth it if you get an inferior product.
Uh huh... lol.

Fuel injector cleaner is perfectly fine to use. The fuel injectors are no different than any other regular fuel injector. I've had them out when I switch to the STi injectors. Salesman = retarded.

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ok, I'm strongly against injector cleaner gas additive or any fuel additive. Here is why, injector cleaner cleans out carbon buildup and residue from crappy gas that has been sitting for a long time. thats it! they dont unclog/clean out the injectors. injector cleaning is done in one of 2 ways, fuel additive which will be bad if you do it to much and using a special injector cleaning machine. so whats the difference? the "soap" in this eats carbon, thats pretty much its purpose. why is the fuel additive bad? the fuel pump bushes are made up of, yes...carbon. so you are slowly destroying your fuel pump. Injector cleaning is used for improving (1)emissions and (2)performance of older engines. heres what I recomend for you to do to find if your injectors are no good. take it to a good shop or dealership and ask them to do an injector balance test while monitoring the fuel pressure. doing this tells you if all the injectors are flowing correctly and are dispensing the same amount of fuel. if they are all the same, your good,little to worry about.if not, tell the guy to fix it. hopefully the fuel pump filter kept the deisel from getting into everything, it is the finest of the 3 filters in the fuel system (fuel pump filter, fuel filter, injector filter). back to injector cleaning, get it done by the machine, it hooks directly to the motor and has special cleaner that is designed for doing it properly. but doing it to a new car is a waste of money because it wont have carbon buildup. sorry if i am coming on strong but dont use fuel additives, their a waste of money and wether they benifet you is doubtful.

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QR25DE wrote: Salesman = retarded.
LOL thats my philosophy!

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wade001 wrote:ok, I'm strongly against injector cleaner gas additive or any fuel additive. Here is why, injector cleaner cleans out carbon buildup and residue from crappy gas that has been sitting for a long time. thats it! they dont unclog/clean out the injectors. injector cleaning is done in one of 2 ways, fuel additive which will be bad if you do it to much and using a special injector cleaning machine. so whats the difference? the "soap" in this eats carbon, thats pretty much its purpose. why is the fuel additive bad? the fuel pump bushes are made up of, yes...carbon. so you are slowly destroying your fuel pump. Injector cleaning is used for improving (1)emissions and (2)performance of older engines. heres what I recomend for you to do to find if your injectors are no good. take it to a good shop or dealership and ask them to do an injector balance test while monitoring the fuel pressure. doing this tells you if all the injectors are flowing correctly and are dispensing the same amount of fuel. if they are all the same, your good,little to worry about.if not, tell the guy to fix it. hopefully the fuel pump filter kept the deisel from getting into everything, it is the finest of the 3 filters in the fuel system (fuel pump filter, fuel filter, injector filter). back to injector cleaning, get it done by the machine, it hooks directly to the motor and has special cleaner that is designed for doing it properly. but doing it to a new car is a waste of money because it wont have carbon buildup. sorry if i am coming on strong but dont use fuel additives, their a waste of money and wether they benifet you is doubtful.
I've had the cleaner help on past cars. Works fine and has never caused an issue for me. I know lots of people that use it. There is not enough detergent in the cleaner to cause an issue at the pump. You only need to add a the specified amount to a full tank of gas to have it do it's job.

While I agree that over time (using it every other fill up) may cause issues, using a bit every couple months or if something like this happens is perfectly fine.

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QR25DE wrote:
wade001 wrote:ok, I'm strongly against injector cleaner gas additive or any fuel additive. Here is why, injector cleaner cleans out carbon buildup and residue from crappy gas that has been sitting for a long time. thats it! they dont unclog/clean out the injectors. injector cleaning is done in one of 2 ways, fuel additive which will be bad if you do it to much and using a special injector cleaning machine. so whats the difference? the "soap" in this eats carbon, thats pretty much its purpose. why is the fuel additive bad? the fuel pump bushes are made up of, yes...carbon. so you are slowly destroying your fuel pump. Injector cleaning is used for improving (1)emissions and (2)performance of older engines. heres what I recomend for you to do to find if your injectors are no good. take it to a good shop or dealership and ask them to do an injector balance test while monitoring the fuel pressure. doing this tells you if all the injectors are flowing correctly and are dispensing the same amount of fuel. if they are all the same, your good,little to worry about.if not, tell the guy to fix it. hopefully the fuel pump filter kept the deisel from getting into everything, it is the finest of the 3 filters in the fuel system (fuel pump filter, fuel filter, injector filter). back to injector cleaning, get it done by the machine, it hooks directly to the motor and has special cleaner that is designed for doing it properly. but doing it to a new car is a waste of money because it wont have carbon buildup. sorry if i am coming on strong but dont use fuel additives, their a waste of money and wether they benifet you is doubtful.
I've had the cleaner help on past cars. Works fine and has never caused an issue for me. I know lots of people that use it. There is not enough detergent in the cleaner to cause an issue at the pump. You only need to add a the specified amount to a full tank of gas to have it do it's job.

While I agree that over time (using it every other fill up) may cause issues, using a bit every couple months or if something like this happens is perfectly fine.
True, it wont destroy your fuel pump if you only use it once in a while. but the amount of cleaner is so small I doubt it would do even remotely what your trying to do. but the detergent eats carbon non the less and thats what your brushes are made of :gotme .but in this case if one would want a thorough cleaning and it wont do anything. I guess put simply IMO the money would be spent on using the machine. which wouldnt take care of his problem if he had deisel in the system. (side note) injector cleaning makes no sense if the car is fairly new though because I seriously doubt the car would have carbon buildup. I gave him a diagnostic suggestion as to what I would do but if he doesn't feel it's needed I've got nothing else to say but I hope everything is ok :bigthumb: .


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