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Post by **8ggalant** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:40 pm

OPERATOR ERROR

So..im late going back to work from lunch...i get outta the car....lock the dooor go to work........*3.5hrs later*.......walking to car goin thru my pockets for keys....none there...oh SH**....walk around the corner...notice the ground in front of the car is wet....get closer...its green...coolant...look into the car keys in ignitions...car still runnin...temps are fine....(i got outta the car...forgot to turn it off...but seein as i have a TT i thought nothing of the car still runnin...so yea....i finally break into the car, cut the fan on ...temperatures still stable....tap gas...nothing....barely any power ...i limp it home...givin it a lil gas in what used to be my powerband...nothing for about 3 miles-tried off and on...about the last mile to my house i got on it and it ran fine for that last few feet...oh...and during that last mile...my hood decided to fly up destroying itself and denting the hell outta my roof in the process...

talk about a bad day....so ...any advice...i wanna do a compression test...isnt there a special tool you need...im gonna go check the coolant in a lil while...man this sucks

Post by **nab911** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:47 pm

You can get a compression tester from autozone. All you do is take all the spark plugs out, stick the compression test in one cynlinder at at time and have someone turn the motor over and read the compression on each cyl.

Post by **8ggalant** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:51 pm

Thanks nab...this really blows

hey i also remember someone sayin sumthing about starting the car w/ the rad cap off and see if sumthing happens (cant remember what..) and that'd also tell you if the hg was gone....is this tru (try to search for it but couldnt find it)....ill be looking for milky coolant also...k im gonna go pout now
Modified by 8ggalant at 6:56 PM 2/16/2005

Post by **float_6969** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:09 pm

that blows man. Talk about a ****ty day...

Post by **DriftinNC** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:48 pm

that car is badluck, haha jk... that sucks man, so your TT wasnt set or you just forgot to take the keys out?

Post by **RMiller** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:55 pm

That sucks. Do you have an aftermarket water temp gauge? It definitely overheated, hopefully it's not worse than a damaged gasket. Any smoke?

Post by **8ggalant** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:00 pm

forgot to take the keys out NC...i feel like a JACK@$$....so pissed...well its raining so im not gonna be able to go out and mess w/ it tonight..tomorrow im gonna check the coolant and compression....we'll see...i do have an aftermarket temp gauge but it wasnt hook up yet...so im not sure how bad it got....while i was stuck outside the car it fluctuated between the middle and a little hot...but yea i was sure it overheated too...ARGGHHHhh..and yea while it was runnin hot there was white smoke outta the exhaust...and on teh drive home its smoked for the first half of the trip...the rest of the way home it didnt...(@ least not bad enuf for me to see_

Post by **sdtouge** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:14 pm

that sucks, hopfully its just a blow hg at worst....

maybe the force be with you.

but jeez, how late were you, you would have to be in quite a rush to leave your car on...

i would check the compression, and look to see where that coolant leak is from... maybe a water pump or hose.

Post by **8ggalant** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:23 pm

sdtouge wrote:that sucks, hopfully its just a blow hg at worst....

maybe the force be with you.

but jeez, how late were you, you would have to be in quite a rush to leave your car on...

i would check the compression, and look to see where that coolant leak is from... maybe a water pump or hose.

well i was on baggage detail and i had this 2 star army generals bags that needed to be on the plane and i was runnin late....and seein as i run my TT @ all times i just didnt realize the car was still ON lol...patience is not one of my strong points...and look what it may have cost me (not much hopefully)

ps...what numbers am i looking for again (i know there can be a max diff of 10psi accross the cylinders)...thanks everyone
Modified by 8ggalant at 7:59 PM 2/16/2005

Post by **sdtouge** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:59 pm

i am not shure for the ca, but the ka is no less than 150 with no more than a 10 percent diif. between.

i would definantly not want some gnarly general to stick his boot up my a$$.

did you find where the coolant was leaking from yet?

Post by **8ggalant** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:12 pm

99% positive it was from the overflow resorvoir....more updates tomorrow (i really wanna go out ther tonight but its dark so i cant see sh** and i dont have a socket set to do take the plugs out...will be getting one tomorrow)

Post by **originalsin** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:23 pm

ok i am kinda confused, why isent ur car making power, it over heated??

Post by **8ggalant** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:39 pm

originalsin wrote:ok i am kinda confused, why isent ur car making power, it over heated??

yea...it was running for 3.5 hrs w/out a fan (my fan is manual)

*update* my wife bought the coolant and comp tester on her way home from work...so now i just gotta borrow a socket set...i probly just ask a neighbor...

Post by **originalsin** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:41 pm

ahh, i dunt understand y people loose the clutch fan, you real dont gain that much power, y not just leave it on

Post by **8ggalant** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:01 pm

i didnt have a choice lol i bought it that way...BUT i still would go electric, i just would have put made sure the temp sensor worked in conjuction w/ the fan instead of having it manual...i think ill do that before i put her back on the road also

Post by **f s t caz** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:52 pm

originalsin wrote:ahh, i dunt understand y people loose the clutch fan, you real dont gain that much power, y not just leave it on

because of the stories of the FWD DOHC waterpump breaking b/c of the clutch fan. <shrug>, one of my e-fan's turns on when the car turns on, and the other's wired to manual toggle switch.

Post by **f s t caz** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:59 pm

Comression specs:Standard: 171psiMinimum: 142psiDifferential limit between cylinders: 14psi

remember to prop the throttle body all the way open while cranking

Post by **F3600** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:02 pm

If you want to run the clutch fan with No problem, buy a CA18ET waterpump.

Got one, fit perfect & no problem

Post by **8ggalant** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:21 am

f s t caz wrote:Comression specs:Standard: 171psiMinimum: 142psiDifferential limit between cylinders: 14psi

remember to prop the throttle body all the way open while cranking

thanks caz..ill let yall know this evening when i get home from work how it goes

Post by **81na ZX** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:56 am

8ggalant wrote:99% positive it was from the overflow resorvoir....more updates tomorrow

If it was overheating bad (i.e. for 3 hrs ), you'd definatly loose some out the overflow, as long as it has a dump tube All your coolant was boiling, thus expanding. It had to go somewhere

If you get it started and it leaks more, you've got a real problem.

Post by **boost_boy** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:06 am

8ggalant wrote:OPERATOR ERROR

So..im late going back to work from lunch...i get outta the car....lock the dooor go to work........*3.5hrs later*.......walking to car goin thru my pockets for keys....none there...oh SH**....walk around the corner...notice the ground in front of the car is wet....get closer...its green...coolant...look into the car keys in ignitions...car still runnin...temps are fine....(i got outta the car...forgot to turn it off...but seein as i have a TT i thought nothing of the car still runnin...so yea....i finally break into the car, cut the fan on ...temperatures still stable....tap gas...nothing....barely any power ...i limp it home...givin it a lil gas in what used to be my powerband...nothing for about 3 miles-tried off and on...about the last mile to my house i got on it and it ran fine for that last few feet...oh...and during that last mile...my hood decided to fly up destroying itself and denting the hell outta my roof in the process...

talk about a bad day....so ...any advice...i wanna do a compression test...isnt there a special tool you need...im gonna go check the coolant in a lil while...man this sucks

Be prepared to pull the head and take it to a machine shop for repairs. Also make sure you buy a new headgasket, headbolts, new valve stem seals, and new crankshaft seals. If what you said is true, I would even play around with it.

Dee

Post by **8ggalant** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:00 pm

well i pulled all the electrical out of the head today (coilpacks, and spark plugs)...go to crank the engine for the comp test...nuthing but clicking...hmmm ok...battery maybe...i put a known good battery in there ...same thing...ok ...put the fuses back it so all in normal w/ known good battery...still clicking...WTF...sigh*...then i had to go pick the wife up from work since im back down to ONE car lol...any idea's on where to start w/ this issue ...it has power..all accessories on...im just burnt out i think...maybe i need to let it sit for a day or so and not look @ it...lol...any help would be appreciated....maybe i can talk caz or another south va member to come over and help me out hint hint lol...more updates asap

Post by **DriftinNC** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:34 pm

8ggalant wrote:well i pulled all the electrical out of the head today (coilpacks, and spark plugs)...go to crank the engine for the comp test...nuthing but clicking...hmmm ok...battery maybe...i put a known good battery in there ...same thing...ok ...put the fuses back it so all in normal w/ known good battery...still clicking...WTF...sigh*...then i had to go pick the wife up from work since im back down to ONE car lol...any idea's on where to start w/ this issue ...it has power..all accessories on...im just burnt out i think...maybe i need to let it sit for a day or so and not look @ it...lol...any help would be appreciated....maybe i can talk caz or another south va member to come over and help me out hint hint lol...more updates asap

so you took all the spark plugs and coilpacks out at once then tried to crank it? im confused on what u said, haha. Im not in VA but i might head up that way soon whenever i go visit scott... and i want to check out fst caz rhd 240

Post by **8ggalant** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:37 pm

yea i thought you were supposed to pull em all...tell my i didnt F*** sumthin else up....

Yea man definately stop by im on teh way lol...maybe we can all roll up there together...

Post by **f s t caz** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:38 pm

alright, lets go step by step.first you removed the electrical connectors to the coil packs,then removed the coil packsthen removed all four spark plugsdisconnected fuel pump fuse/EFI relay, whatever it is i can't remembercranked car and it clicked.without actually hearing the clicking myself, i'd think it was coming from the starter. might want to have someone else crank while you scour the engine bay to pinpoint the sound. if that is the case, the signal to start going to the starter may not be strong enough. the battery might be weak (not enough CCA), the connection to the starter might be corroded/loose at either end (high voltage drop)starter could also be lame. might try hitting it with a hammer (ya its a hack job but it works quite often) to get the gear to engage properly.

as for the rhd, its not much to look at DriftinNCjust this covered up like this and this

Post by **8ggalant** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:30 pm

thanks caz it was the starter ...it was really loose...and then the plug/connector kept coming off...lol...then on the initial startup (to warm up the car for the comp test...the rpm jumpd up to 3500 and kept climbing....i was like WTF...turns out the throttle cable was wrapped up @ the TB...so i was gradually pulling tho it didnt look like it was...so after all that was sorted out i finally got the comp test done....first off...i filled up the rad and watched for bubbles....there werent any....check the dip stick and oil filler cap for milky oil...found none (though i wont really know until i drain it)....also its smoking @ idle (white) and under load it smokes heavily (dark greyish color) initially then stops...

now i got no less than 165 accross the board on the three runs of the compression test...so know im thinking sumthings wrong w/ the gauge lol...i mean im happy i got those numbers but it just seems to good to be true....im gonna call around and see about gettin a leak down test done tomorrow

Post by **8ggalant** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:24 am

bump

any other suggestions...on stuff to try...and where could i get a leak down done @?

Post by **boost_boy** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:13 am

8ggalant wrote:thanks caz it was the starter ...it was really loose...and then the plug/connector kept coming off...lol...then on the initial startup (to warm up the car for the comp test...the rpm jumpd up to 3500 and kept climbing....i was like WTF...turns out the throttle cable was wrapped up @ the TB...so i was gradually pulling tho it didnt look like it was...so after all that was sorted out i finally got the comp test done....first off...i filled up the rad and watched for bubbles....there werent any....check the dip stick and oil filler cap for milky oil...found none (though i wont really know until i drain it)....also its smoking @ idle (white) and under load it smokes heavily (dark greyish color) initially then stops...

now i got no less than 165 accross the board on the three runs of the compression test...so know im thinking sumthings wrong w/ the gauge lol...i mean im happy i got those numbers but it just seems to good to be true....im gonna call around and see about gettin a leak down test done tomorrow

Clean your spark plugs, put water/coolant in your car and drive the thing. It's cold now, so it's gonna be somewhat nice to you, but when the engine heats up and parts start expanding.......SHOWTIME It should get hot quick after bursts of boost (if it even lets you boost and not break up). Watch your coolant and water for mixing, but these engine don't seem to be big mixers; just boil the hell out of the coolant.

Dee

Post by **8ggalant** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:06 am

kool...ill take her out today and keep everyone posted

Post by **8ggalant** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:28 pm

well i changed teh plugs and took her out for a spin...Perfect (well it ran just like it did be4 the "accident")...it smoke while it was warming up today...let it run for about 30 mins while i put sum tools away...put replacement hood on etc...then went on teh test drive...vac was around 18-20ish....boosted to 11psi no problems...power was there just like i should be....im gonna do the leak down test and oil change tomorrow....maybe i dodged a bullet...hope so..we'll see..updates later

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