Did the "SE" 240's come with LSD??

Post by **JD-S14** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

Ok, Im sure I deserve to get flamed for this one.....but I really dont know.

I read in the newest Import Tuner magazine that the 240's in the SE trim, came with LSD's. Is this true?

Ive got a 98 240sx SE w/auto. It doesnt act like it has an LSD. More times than not, I only spin one tire.

Can anyone shed some more light on this topic?

:help

Thanks,Brad C.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

yes all SE's came with 4wheel disc brakes, LSD, leather and alloys as well as a sunroof, so yes you do have an LSD, and a dman nice car at that, your car is very rare,although im a 5spd man, i wouldnt mind driving your car, and welcome to NICO and if you look at the top of hte page, theres a big red search button (its kinda half *** hidden) but use it, it has THOUSANDS of answers

Post by **JD-S14** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

Rob- Thanks. I knew Id get flamed for the "search" part. So all SE 240's came with LSD, but how come mine doesnt act like it does? Like I said, I can only remember on a few occassions where I was able to do a two tire burnout. (no, I dont act like a jackass....I was testing the car before I took it to the track) And even at the track where I want the LSD to work the most, my friends tell me that only one tire spins. Should I have the diff checked out?

Thanks, Brad C.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

i wasnt trying to flame, just inform

, and also, the only way you could have a 1 wheel burnout is if u dont have positraction (sp?), and im SURE the 24os come with it, or atleast some form of it, if ur car is a 98 your lsd shouldnt be acting up, but wait for more replies as i am no expert on lsd's, maybe someone else can clear this up, im curious myself, also, what kind of tires do u have?? have u been regularly rotating them? hope i was SOME help

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

i dont think all 240 SEs came with LSD...it was an option on SEs

Post by **offtheline** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

I have a 96 SE and im almost positive that mine does not have an lsd and DEFINITELY doesnt have leather. They say that there is some sort of sticker or something that allows you to find out if you have one.

Post by **sixxdeuce** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

dude, not all se's had lsd's, it was still an option on the se. But if you have abs then you most likley have an lsd also, I think they came together as a package. All 240's have 4 wheel disc and not all se's have leather. Just crawl under your car and look at the side of the diff, if it has a bright orange sticker then its an lsd

Post by **GirlRacerS14** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

Not flaming at all for the search button but there was an awesome thread on LSD's already. I'm pretty sure it was in Nico General. It had a lot more info than your getting here.

GR

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

wow, i was almost positive that 24os came with lsd's on the SE models, thanks for hte correction, and im very sorry for missinforming you JD-S14, but it just proves you learn something everyday, and i know that leather was on all SE's, and neither is hte sunroof, but i couldve sworn the lsd was on the SE's, but apparently im wrong, and from the sounds of it, you dont have an lsd JD, so sorry, but i think you get to go buy one!! w00t, those lsd's are so damn cool

Post by **MaineExport** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

NOT ALL SE'S CAME WITH VLSD!!!!

As a matter of fact MOST SE's DON'T have an LSD. There are several ways to test and see if your car has a VLSD or not. If you do a search of this site I am SURE you will find many threads about this very topic. The easiest way to tell is to get under your car and look for an orange sticker that says "VLSD". But, there re other ways that we have posted literally dozens of times... so seriously SEARCH and you will find a lot of information about it.

SE does NOT mean you have a VLSD..... PERIOD!!!!

Post by **MaineExport** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

sixxdeuce wrote: But if you have abs then you most likley have an lsd also, I think they came together as a package.

The ONLY year the s14 had ABS and VLSD packaged together is the 95 SE. All other trim levels and years they were sold separate or together.

I might as well post it here again:

S14 SE package means:

> White gauge faces> Front lip/Rear trunk spoilers> 5-lug 16" Alloy wheels> Rear anti-sway bar

These are the only options that are SE only, and it will have all of them. All other options were available for base models an SE's.

Post by **GirlRacerS14** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

maineimport wrote:
S14 SE package means:

> White gauge faces> Front lip/Rear trunk spoilers> 5-lug 16" Alloy wheels> Rear anti-sway bar

These are the only options that are SE only, and it will have all of them. All other options were available for base models an SE's.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't those options only come on the '97-'98 S14 SE's?

I have '96 and it came with ABS and VLSD. I don't know if it came that way or it the previous owner ordered or installed it. It sure is nice though. :pface

GR

Post by **MaineExport** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

GirlRacerS14 wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't those options only come on the '97-'98 S14 SE's?

I have '96 and it came with ABS and VLSD. I don't know if it came that way or it the previous owner ordered or installed it. It sure is nice though. :pface

GR

Okay... you asked for it.... YOU'RE WRONG!!!!:pface

All US s14 SE's came with the the options I listed above. If your car has ABS and VLSD (my 95 base model has them both) then you are lucky. Sometimes it's because the customer ordered it that way, other times they just built them like that from the factory, and still other times it was dealer upgrades.

So, if your 96 doesn't have the options I posted above.... it's NOT an SE no matter what the registration or badging says. My 95 base model is loaded with all the power options, upgraded stereo, power sun/moon roof etc etc etc. When I bought the car (form a Honda dealership) I was told it was an SE. I bought the car and the dealer sent the paperwork to the state of Maine as a 95 240sx SE. So it was registered, titled, and insured as an SE. I later found out it was NOT an SE and took care of all the records. This is how I discovered exactly what makes a US s14 an SE or a base.

Post by **Meantime** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

I have VLSD and you don't...nyah nyah...:ylsuper

I'm just kidding. To answer your original question, no, the SE package doesn't automatically connotate a VLSD equipped 240.

The S13's with the VLSD also had to have ABS as an option and HICAS. You will not find a VLSD-equipped S13 without ABS/HICAS, and vice versa (at least from the factory). All 3 options were part of the same package.

As for the S14, I was not aware they offered VLSD at all from the factory, but I could be mistaken. There are 2 ways to tell for sure. The most obvious is to look at the pumpkin and see if there is an orange sticker on the driver's side. If there is, you have a VLSD, begin the celebration. If there's no sticker, you can raise the rear wheels up and try to spin one with your hand. If it's rather difficult to do so, and the wheel has little spin after you let it go, chances are you have a VLSD. If it spins easy, you have an open diff.

Post by **hazardous240** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

then how come some times both tires burn out and other times only one burns out. i got a 95 SE automatic. when i power brake from a stop while in drive only one tire spins, but when i have it in neutral and i slam it down to 1 then both tires spin. why might that be?

Post by **WingsNThangs** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

Geez people. At http://www.socal240sx.org you will find FAQs that will answer everything you need to know about stock options and standard equipment for 240SX. And VLSD was always an option on stock USDM 240SX's.

Post by **Meantime** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

okay...:rolleyes

well, there you have it...the S14 did have the diff as an option, but only if you selected ABS as well. The two were offered as a package, similar to the S13's options.

Post by **MaineExport** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

hazardous240 wrote:then how come some times both tires burn out and other times only one burns out. i got a 95 SE automatic. when i power brake from a stop while in drive only one tire spins, but when i have it in neutral and i slam it down to 1 then both tires spin. why might that be?

In THEORY that is very much impossible. But, a lot of people sy they have that happen. The only explanation I can come up with is that there is a certain amount of load built up in the diff as you hammer it into gear. So, for a moment both wheels will get power as the spider gear shifts the load. As a result, you will spin both tires... but this should only happen for a matter of a second at the most. But, even though this is happening, you are not getting the effect or benefits of an LSD.

The point is to achieve GRIP wth both tires... not spinning both tires. Also, if you had a VLSD... you'd spin both tires all the time for as long as they will spin. With an open diff it will act like you said... one will spin most of the time, and if both happen to spin, it is only for a brief moment.

Post by **MaineExport** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

Originally posted by Meantime "]the S14 did have the diff as an option,

So far you're right on..

but only if you selected ABS as well.

Nope... now you're wrong. THE ONLY YEAR THEY WERE PACKAGED TOGETHER IN AN S14 IS THE 95 SE!!!!! All other years and trim packages for the s14 they were sold together OR separate.

The two were offered as a package

Again.... only on the 95 SE.

Website · Post by **creophus** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

I got very confused on this when I bought my S14. Thought I had VLSD and ABS but I didn't. The dealer told me that they all came on the S14 SE. I believed him, but then we both learned better. I do have leather though. This is a mixed blessing in FL with the heat and direct sunshine!

See why A/C is a necessity???

Post by **Meantime** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

maineimport wrote:Originally posted by Meantime "]the S14 did have the diff as an option,

So far you're right on..

but only if you selected ABS as well.

Nope... now you're wrong. THE ONLY YEAR THEY WERE PACKAGED TOGETHER IN AN S14 IS THE 95 SE!!!!! All other years and trim packages for the s14 they were sold together OR separate.

The two were offered as a package

Again.... only on the 95 SE.

Okay. I really hate to get into stupid arguments...and this thread definitely qualifies as one. But what you're saying does not appear to be true.

Check out the link that Wings posted above. According to the brochure for '97, '98 240's...it says verbatim,

Optional: Viscous Limited-Slip Differential (VLSD) (With Anti-Lock Braking System)

Then....if you look a little lower for the ABS option..it says...

Optional: Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) (With viscious limited-slip differential).

Now perhaps I'm stupid, but that appears to me that the two were only offered TOGETHER for '97 and '98. Ditto '95 as you have been emphatically stating. So '96 must have been the off year where you could select ABS but NOT the VLSD in tandem. Anybody following this?

Now I am going to go off and contemplate just how many minutes of my life I've wasted to prove a silly minute detail.

Post by **hazardous240** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

well that THEORY makes sense maineimport but actually when both of the tires spin, they spin untill i let go of the gas. Last time me and a few other friends had a "backyard" burn out contest and i beat them all. and both of my tires were spining the same amount until the right tire blew out! which was like about one minute and something in to the contest.

Website · Post by **s14joe** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

Fact: I have a '95 240 SX SE w/ ABS and NO VLSD. Please no one challenge me on this.

Post by **ShifDown96240SE** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

I have, just to state, (and i know for a fact my car came stock this way) LSD, front AND rear sways, white face guages and NO i mean NO ABS, anyone want to challenge that?

Post by **ShifDown96240SE** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

OH yeah, this might be a little late on the whole thread but no leather, 96 240sx se, black, eibach pro-kit, gr2 struts and shocks, cusco Strut tower bars, polyurethane bushings, ingen air, and cat back exhaust, I love my car!!

Post by **kami240sx** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

man, i know if i posted something like this, i'd just get flamed and the thread would be closed. . .

i didn't read everything but yeah, ABS and LSD came together, if you have abs, then you have LSD, if not then tough luck finding one. . . i've been looking forever and i might have to settle with a new KAAZ soon. . .

and thats awesome you have a 98 btw. they only sold ~2000 of those, wish i had one. . .

Post by **f8sjester** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

ok. . . now that this seems to be settled. . .

i have a '96 with BOTH ABS and LSD. . . the LSD i KNOW was an option since I checked on the d*mn box when i bought the car new in '96. . . sadly i don't remember about the ABS thing so i won't go down that avenue. . .

but can someone explain to me why the dealer said that if i order the LSD then it ALWAYS comes packaged with the moonroof??? seriously. ..what kinda stupid crap is that? (not that i mind really. . . i've gotten used to the moonroof)

Post by **I am Technoman** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

My 98 has a LSD because I bought one.

Website · Post by **creophus** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

Which one did you buy? KAZZ or J30, etc??

Post by **Nismo1182** » Tue May 27, 2003 1:30 pm

I got a J30 LSD in my 90

Did the "SE" 240's come with LSD??

Did the "SE" 240's come with LSD??

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