DHS Brief- Right Wing Extremism?

[Cold_Zero]

I hope this is a joke, but with the Tea Parties set to take place tomorrow, it wouldn't shock me that this is a way to marginalize the parties.

http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/f...m.pdf

Big Sister is Watching You (Part 1)

In George Orwell’s book "1984" the slogan of the dictatorship was “Big Brother Is Watching You.” In Obama’s America, Janet Napolitano is in charge of homeland security, so the slogan could well be changed to “Big Sister Is Watching You.”

It turns out that Big Sis has just issued a report warns against the possibility of violence by so-called "right-wing extremists." And what does Big Sis say these right-wingers are concerned about? Illegal aliens, the increasing power of the federal government, gun grabs, abortion and the loss of U.S. national sovereignty. In other words, anyone who is worried about preserving our borders, language, and culture is on Big Sis’ watch list.

But here’s something else that the headlines don’t tell you. The report says that these dangerous right wingers engage in “exploitation of social issues such as … same-sex marriage.” What this means is that even though state after state has rejected ghey marriage every time it has been put to a vote of the people, if you oppose the destruction of traditional marriage, if you oppose the ghey mafia, then you are suspect. If you aren’t happy with her “lifestyle choice” Big Sis will put you on her list. It seems that rogue ****sexual elements within Homeland Security are engaging in extra-constitutional activity. Where is the Republican Party to protect us from this rogue Obama government? Who will be next on the list? The Navy SEALs that shot the Somali pirates? Talk show hosts? Only Big Sis knows for sure.

This is not the first time this has come up. Last month, I told you on The Savage Nation about “fusion centers.” What’s a fusion center you ask? They’re a set of local intelligence centers across the country created by Big Sis and the Department of Homeland Security to combat terrorism and related criminal activity. I told you that, according to a report by one of these fusion centers, if you’re an anti-abortion activist, if you’ve supported third party presidential candidates like Chuck Baldwin or Bob Barr, if you believe in the idea that the U.S., Mexico and Canada will someday form a North American Union, then you may be specially targeted by Big Sis. And now we know the problem is even worse than we thought.

[WDRacing]

I hope this is a joke, but with the Tea Parties set to take place tomorrow, it wouldn't shock me that this is a way to marginalize the parties.

http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/f...m.pdf

Finally, a topic worth discussion. I have a feeling I mirror your thoughts almost exactly on this topic Bud. More Gov, less freedoms and more infringements on the freedoms we have left is NOT what we need right now or ever IMO. And GOD forbid we exercise our friggin right to protest.

Nothing gets me upset more then a Gov or Leadership telling me what I can or can't do, when it's my God given right to do so. What the hell was I fighting for all those years? Perhaps we should just burn the Constitution and start over. This is how everything ugly starts. Speak out against the Gov and you're labeled extremist. We all know what our track record is with extremists, or those branded as such. Guilty until forever cause they say so...BS.

BTW, thanks for the info on the Tea Party, there is indeed one here in town my boys and I will be attending Being from Boston it makes me feel a little more patriotic then I thought it would.

[Cold_Zero]

Couldn't agree with you more Brian.

And just for the record, I would be just as mortified if DHS put out a brief about the resurgence of Left Wing Extremism due to the current Political climate (2008 Presidential Election) and started labeling left of center citizens as extremists for holding to one or two social or political causes/issues.

This brief appears to be shaping up to be legit. It started to make its rounds through the Political Radio Talk Shows Sunday-Monday and has not been debunked as a fraud. Apparently there is a cabinet meeting today at the White House. We will see if the mainstream media asks Janet N. about the brief.

[WDRacing]

Whatever media source does ask her will just be branded as a Right Wing supporter simply out to defile Liberal views at all costs. You know, the standard deflection used by both parties so that nothing is ever brought to fruition and nothing gets fixed and the public remains ignorant and educated based on the media sources they choose based on the views they support, there bye promulgating there own ignorance and furthering the dissent of this great nation into a truly F'd up situation.

Party Politics is and has been ripping this country apart for far to long now.

When will our Gov be "For the People" again? It seems to be For the Corporations / For whatever party is in charge at the time.

[OriginalWheelman]

Whatever media source does ask her will just be branded as a Right Wing supporter simply out to defile Liberal views at all costs. You know, the standard deflection used by both parties so that nothing is ever brought to fruition and nothing gets fixed and the public remains ignorant and educated based on the media sources they choose based on the views they support, there bye promulgating there own ignorance and furthering the dissent of this great nation into a truly F'd up situation.

Party Politics is and has been ripping this country apart for far to long now.

When will our Gov be "For the People" again? It seems to be For the Corporations / For whatever party is in charge at the time.

* Applause *

[Cold_Zero]

The silence from the RNC is deafening.I half expect silence or spin from the other side.

I am preparing my letters to my Congressman and Senators to ask them if this Brief is authentic and why it was generated. It seems pretty darn convenient that the only mention of a resurgence of the Patriot Movement (which they appear to be talking about in the brief) comes a few days before the planned 04-15-09 Tea Parties.

[C-Kwik]

My initial impression tells me that the reports are being interpreted to sound this way. It may be a matter of fact that these "extremists" believe what they do but the main concern might be violence that might result.

A quick search revealed an article released this afternoon:

http://www.politico.com/news/s....html

Ultimately, though, without knowing the exact content and context in which the quoted texts were derived, noone can draw any actual conclusions....

[DJ Raijin]

some of the basis for being a "right wing extremist" are:1: You Own A Firearm2: Have Purchased A Firearm Since Obama Was Elected3: You Are A Vet Trying To Assimilate Into Society4: Openly Express Discontent With Current Economic Situation On Internet5: Have A Non-Obama Political Bumper Sticker

So get out your razor blades and goo gone guys. If you supported Ron Paul or McCain in the last election, you are now an extremist. I'm about sick of this "messiah". He's more like the Anti-Christ

[Cold_Zero]

Someone pointed out this morning in an observation. When DHS issued these briefs during the prior administration warning about Extremist Islamic groups carrying out potential attacks, the Liberals went bonkers over the reports and elevated terror levels.

Yet they are silent when another group is targeted by the Jack Booted Thugs of DHS. I guess the Libs learned nothing during the 1930-1940's National Socialist Germany. That it didn't matter what side you were on, at some point the Nazi's would come after you! No matter if you weren't Jewish, a Gypsies, Communist and so on.

Eventually, the Gestapo came for the Lutheran Ministers who refused to preach National Socialist Ideology from their pulpits. When the ministers resisted, they were thrown in concentration/interment camps. No matter though, FDR's Federal Bureau of Investigation harassed and spied on American born Lutherans of German descent. Synodical Presidents and leaders were constantly having run in's with the FBI because of the fear of Nazi moles/spies that were perpetrated during the time.

So it really doesn't shock me when DHS pulls this s***. I am reminded of a T-shirt I once saw. It had a picture of a group of Native Americans on the front posing for a picture and on the back it said, "Of Course I do Not Trust My Government." Still makes me laugh, because it is oh so true.

[AZhitman]

No surprise here.

Nappy (as we across the street from her office like to call her) stod idly by and even applauded the immigration protesters as they snarled traffic, disrupted State operations, littered our beautiful downtown area, and made me an hour late for dinner.

Meanwhile, she did NOTHING to prevent a throng of illegals from disrupting and damaging the business of a long-time Phoenix business (Pruitt's) here in the Valley.

I'd say, good riddance - Except now she's on the national stage. Ugh.

[smockers83]

I've read the actual report. I think it was the Washington Post or Times had a copy of it linked in an article as a PDF.

The reason for the conservative upheaval over this memo is because of the interpretation of the loose definition of what these groups of people consist of. The part about veterans is being misconstrued and used for political gains. The report says a small percentage of veterans are susceptible to extreme conservative groups wanting to recruit these veterans for their military/combat training.

The VFW has also stood by the report, as the report goes on to draw similarities to the 90s and the Gulf War.

I guess this is why I don't watch a news channel anymore. If I watch CNN or MSNBC, I'm led to believe Obama is victorious in everything he does. If I watch Fox News, basically the opposite is true. The only news I watch and have watched since Jan 20 has been CNBC, one that makes sense to me and generally aligns with my views.

That's the memo at face value. If one wants to draw conspiracies from it and interpret it as such, then I guess I'm considered a terrorlst now.

[Cold_Zero]

No you are not a terrorlst, smockers.

But the two things that irk me about this report is that:

1. Counter to DHS practices, they release a report with no real credible threat.

When the report under the Bush Administration was released about Environmentalist Terrorism, it specifically mentioned ELF (Earth Liberation Front) which is an active group that destroys construction projects and logging sites. It didnt invoke imagery of old left wing inactive groups say like the WeatherMan from the Sixties, when describing the threat. What really is concerning is the apparent shift away from International Terrorism, like that of Al Qaeda, to domestic 'terror' groups. When is the last time someone from the Patriot Movement has bombed an abortion clinic?

2. It was release the week that the TEA Parties were set to be held.

No matter, the Thomas Moore center and Michael Savage are suing Janet N.

I do have a TEA Party/DHS Brief story:Some of the participants of the TEA Party were joking with the Indiana State Police officers performing security for the event. They kept referring to the DHS memo about us being 'Right Winged Extremists' or 'Terrorists.' I kept telling people, with the guidelines mentioned in the DHS brief, most of the Indiana State Police officers would be put in the same category. They are really no different that us.

[BusyBadger]

My blood boils every time I read this thread. I've been waiting most of the week for it to cool down before I made a post.

This entire issue/debacle has served as a very telling tale about the views the current administration holds. While terrorism is now referred to as "man created disasters" (I guess terrorists are covered by the umbrella of political correctness) those in the the new administration have no qualms about pigeonholing a host of Americans as "right wing extremists" and having DHS issuing a warning stating the same.

I haven't been truly proud of a POTUS for a while now, but for the first time ever I can say I'm embarrassed about one.

There is a true threat to the freedoms of the US, but the threat is from the leaders - not the people.

[smockers83]

No you are not a terrorlst, smockers.

Phew, thanks for clearing that up for me, haha.

But the two things that irk me about this report is that:

1. Counter to DHS practices, they release a report with no real credible threat.

When the report under the Bush Administration was released about Environmentalist Terrorism, it specifically mentioned ELF (Earth Liberation Front) which is an active group that destroys construction projects and logging sites. It didnt invoke imagery of old left wing inactive groups say like the WeatherMan from the Sixties, when describing the threat. What really is concerning is the apparent shift away from International Terrorism, like that of Al Qaeda, to domestic 'terror' groups. When is the last time someone from the Patriot Movement has bombed an abortion clinic?

2. It was release the week that the TEA Parties were set to be held.

No matter, the Thomas Moore center and Michael Savage are suing Janet N.

The memo wasn't supposed to be released to the public. It was dispersed to law enforcement agencies as memos usually are, but for whatever reason, someone decided to leak this one.

I hadn't heard anything about this until Friday when I was flipping through radio stations on a road trip and came upon The Savage Nation and he was going on and on about suing someone and what not and then my parents told me about it, saying some stuff that really struck me as odd so I looked into it myself to find that a lot of fears about this memo are unsubstantiated. I'm not really sure what Savage is suing for because the quotes that he used in regards to himself and Rush as members of the right-wing media were not in the report. Someone else made that up or something.

Is it coincidence that it came out at the same time as the tea parties? Who knows, I'd like to think that it's just a coincidence.