Devil Z

[S130Z]

So my z broke down sometime ago, and I've for now, been building it back to stock, but I've been doing some research and my next project, I want to build the devil Zs engine from Wangan Midnight. It's very risky and expensive, I want to get a 240z shell to drop the motor in, but for now it will just have to be in the 280zx.

So, pretty much since I know that this build is very risky and spendy, I was just wondering if anybody has done this build, on this site, and are the results worth it? And is there any suggestions on certain parts to use, or shops to have the machine work done to it?

I've also heard that It has never been done with a turbo, but the devil z is twin turbo and i want to make a replica, so if anyone's done a turbo build of the 2.8 convert to 3.1 let me know, and it would be cool if i could get some tips.

So what you guys think thumbs up or thumbs down, It's not a definite, because I also want to do my own thing and not a copy, but the devil z is so bada$$

[evildky]

I honestly don't knwo anyting about the game other than it's got a built S30 turbo, and I believe ti was supposed to have the OSG twin cam head (good luck finding one and they go for about $10k if you can find one)

the twin turbo set up has been done and it's all custom unless you manage to find an old school JDM manifold, I've seen them for around $2k which is gonna be less than having a custom one made

a 3.1 stroker can cost any where frm $3-10K to build

I do however have 2 stroker cranks I'll be selling whenever I get around to making crates

me I overbored and added custom pstons with long rods to make an L30

[JDM Dre]

the devil z really did exisit in japan, i forgot where i read it, just google Speed Shop Shinohara, you might find something on the akuma z and those specs..

[S130Z]

Thanks for the info guys, and dky let me know about that crank what's you get the crate, if it's for a good price I'll probably buy it from ya, other wise i found a brand new one for like 2 1/2 thousand, and the OS giken head, I read that the F54 head will work just fine, because I know that the OS giken head is like impossible to find, and if i do, it's going to be like 9527895478906423978 dollars haha

And the twin turbo I guess I'll try to find the old jdm manifold dky was talking about, but i read that nobody's successfully did this build with a single turbo so idk if that's going to be a definite.

[evildky]

F54 isn't a head it's a block, the P90 is the turbo head, and it's decent, but porting can make it better, Braap can do a full port and polish oversized valves springs etc but you're talking $2k and up

speed ain't cheap, you can ge these thing to north of 300 hp for cheap, but to get north of 400 the cost grows exponentially

[S130Z]

yeah this is going to probably be a long term project, until i finish school, and hopefully get a good paying job when I'm done, but i plan on going to dunwoody for automotive tech., so this is going to be a long-a** project, since i will have to pay for schooling and then other basic expenses, but it will be worth it, this is my first z and I always liked Nissan so I'm gonna stick to the build no matter how long it takes

And does any place even have the OS giken head for sale? I have had 0 luck even finding one, I found one a couple years back, but that's long gone. I don't even think I will get it though since it's like a damn down payment on a new car haha.

U said you did yours 3.0? Is there any flaws or anything bad about doing a build like this? I know it's risky because it's a lot of machine work, i read you have to get a .120" bore which is insane, because that's a lot of metal your shaving.

[evildky]

it's recomeneded to ahve the block sonic tested for a .120 overbore, I only bored mine .80, it's actually like 2815 but I rounded up as the L28 is only like 2750

robello offers a 3.0 kit that uses honda H bean rods and an offser grind on the crank to ge a little extra stroke and make the journals small enough for the honda rods, someone else was looking into this recnely, basically for $3k you get a brand new bottom wnd with forged pistons, H beam rods fully ballanced etc from one of the best know builders in the market

[S130Z]

damn that's not to bad, i just gotta save up so i can get all that haha

[boro drift]

+1 for the Devil Z build! I want to build one sooooo bad.

I honestly don't knwo anyting about the game other than it's got a built S30 turbo, and I believe ti was supposed to have the OSG twin cam head (good luck finding one and they go for about $10k if you can find one)

The car in the anime is a 2.8 with a 2 valve head, twin turbo's and carburetors. Pretty awsome show.

[S130Z]

thanks guy's, yeah the devil z is sick i've wanted to build one every since i seen the anime

Damn boro drift is that your supra, it's clean as hell, my cousin had that model for a little bit but it was too big of a project because the ghetto wiring the previous owner did so he had to get rid of it

[boro drift]

Damn boro drift is that your supra, it's clean as hell, my cousin had that model for a little bit but it was too big of a project because the ghetto wiring the previous owner did so he had to get rid of it

Yeah, thats my money pit! lol.

[Perrenial Badass]

Good luck finding a valve cover that reads "Nissin".

Anyway, MSA and others sell a 3.1L stroker kit. It's expensive. I have heard that a diesel Maxima crank can be used to stroke to 3.1L. Good luck finding one. I don't think that you'd actually need find an L28 to bore and stroke, but since you already have one...

And then you'd have to convert to carburetor... and a whole mess of other s***. And then you'd have to start messing with the body and suspension if you really want to make a clone.

[S130Z]

I'm not to worried about all the work I got time to work on it, and obviously it's not going to be a exact replica, because some parts are just to hard to find, but I plan on making it as good as I can, but if I want make a exact replica, I got some connections to find some hard to get parts over in japan

boro drift what's the supra pushing?

[boro drift]

boro drift what's the supra pushing?

I don't know. Still need to tune it. Just a matter of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, lol.

[S130Z]

haha yeah i'm with you on the money matter, this build is going to run me dry haha

[S130Z]

So I've decided to fix up the car and sell it, IF, I can find a S30Z, and a cheap L28, so i can do this replica right.

On that note, how much is a decent price to post it for sale? I had a offer last year for 5g's the only reason i didn't sell is i didn't find another decent z in my area for sale. So how much you guys think I should post it now, since I'm re-building the motor, new suspension, new clutch, and re-painted along with painting the door jams and engine bay? I also have a boost controller, BOV, and intercooler with the car, and a exhaust that I probably won't put on since I'm selling it.

[evildky]

condition plays a huge roll, I've seen running cars as cheap as $500, very few bring north of $5k, fresh paint etc might brng that up quite a bit but there aren't many f them in that price range

[S130Z]

Yeah, I hope I can get a decent price for it, since I got lucky and only paid 750, but I'm putting in new pistons&rings, all new gaskets, timing set, oil pump, water pump, fuel pump, motor / transmission mounts, belts, tires, injectors and injector plugs, fuel filter, radiator....etc.

but yeah i agree condition has a major role to play, I'm thinking if I fix the couple of little rust spots, and just make it super clean inside and out I can get a good chunk of change for it