det pulsar haveing trouble

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Liquid_Neon
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got my det swap finished friday, turned her on and played with it.the poor thing is running like garbage!I played with two differant cas... one worked as it came off my ca18de. I tried two differant sets of coil packs too!

none of it seemed to make a differance.

Then I read a thread on here about the time gears... so i tore my cover off and looked... everything matches up though, so i dont think the gears are off!

I dont have my IAC hooked up correctly either, but i dont think that would cause my car to run like absolute trash.. it just wont idle from that.

any bright ideas please?


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Liquid_Neon wrote:the poor thing is running like garbage!
Give us some symtoms that you are experiencing.

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K, one thing to check.

The first generation FWD DET came with a black CAS and that doesn't work very well with the Ca16de or Ca18de ecus, not say that is your problem as you didn't provide us with much info.

What ecu are you using? do you have all the sensors hooked up, what maf are you using?

Good luck,

RafiPUSLAR GTR

Liquid_Neon
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whoops, forgot that part.Yeah, i replaced the coils and checked timeing cause it sounds like a dam wrx.i saw c-rads post, so i checked my belt too... but it looks spot on?

she wont rev fast... and isnt any faster then my stock ca18de currently.

It's a rwd silva det, but i swapped pretty much everything off my de onto the det. im useing my de ecu with an apexi fuel controller.

kapower06
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Its most likely your ignitor... Mine sounded exactly like a wrx and wouldnt move out of its own way, dee helped me diagnos it as the ignitor.

Liquid_Neon
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what can kill an ignitor? it worked when it was on my de... it should still work unless it died sitting around.is there a test for it?

im also gonna check grounds tommarrow, make sure the coils are properly grounded.

kapower06
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im sure theres a way to test it but i think its pretty tedious. Im not sure but I think ignitors either work or they done, so yes they can just go bad. maybe someone dropped it and didn't tell you, maybe it got wet somehow and corroded. Check the free stuff first, all connections, and grounds. it can just be a loose connector at the ignitor.

More times then not it is the ignitor tho.

dattodude
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Hi man..Some 13 years ago I did my first CA transplant.

I was installing a CA18de, and I was given a ca18det computer. This meant the engine would only run if I held onto the throttle, and kept blipping it to stop it from stalling. When I got the ca18de ECU, the car started up and idled perfectly first go.

Have a think about that.

Cheers,Chris

Liquid_Neon
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spent the last few hours getting the timeing belt crap back on...turned her over, she bubbled to a start then... all of a sudden died (i even had my foot to the floor). Now she wont stay running period... if i floor the pedal, the revs go to around 800... sputters for a few seconds then she just dies.the cas and coils are good... i dont have another ignitor to test it... could that be it?

I'm starting to think my igniter is the culprit... because i think it got rained on by accident at one point during the motor swap. are they that fragile??

Im about to go buy a new one because i need this car running, like yesterday.

dattodude
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double check you have the fuel hoses the right way around..

Seen that done wrong a few times.

Return comes from the regulator, the input goes to the centre of the fuel rail.

...although it wouldn't start at all then...

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Liquid_Neon wrote:spent the last few hours getting the timeing belt crap back on...turned her over, she bubbled to a start then... all of a sudden died (i even had my foot to the floor). Now she wont stay running period... if i floor the pedal, the revs go to around 800... sputters for a few seconds then she just dies.the cas and coils are good... i dont have another ignitor to test it... could that be it?

I'm starting to think my igniter is the culprit... because i think it got rained on by accident at one point during the motor swap. are they that fragile??

Im about to go buy a new one because i need this car running, like yesterday.
Ignitors are solid state and cannot be disturbed by water. Look at what dattodude posted about the ecu. First of all, you're asking for trouble with that DE ecu. But seeing that you're using the AFC, I can't say what the outcome is. Just please becareful cause the stock DE ecu will run your timing high and the DETs don't like that. I've blown a couple of engines in this capacity, take your time and do this correctly. The ignitor have the ability to fail for no aparent reason and is non-repairable. If you say your cam timing is spot on, stop waisting your time messing with it and focus on your ignition issues.

Dee

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I would like to throw in my 2 cents since I am a pulsar owner with a ca18det.

an ecu would be a nice start. even though you do have a way to adjust your fuel, you still might not have it adequietly setup. Make sure you have all your sensors plugged in (IE: Maf, IAC, O2, and that other sensor on the intake). Your car won't maintain an idle without some of those. Thirdly, to check your ignition module, inplug each coil pack and put a plug in it. Ground the plug and crank over the engine. Do it to each cylinder and if you have a good spark on each coil, then your ignition module is fine. Fourthly, the timing belt. The points between the cam gears and the exhaust cam and the oil pump, are they 100% correct? The lines could be lined up with the marks on the teeth of the cams but it could still be a crapped belt. Count the number of teeth between each gear when the marks on them are pointed out. There should be 39 cogs between each point. Then from the exhaust cam to the oil pump, there should be 48 cogs.If that isnt your problem, maybe the ca18det that you got could have a plugged injector?


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