dent in oil pan
dent in oil pan
i went canyon running about a week ago, and i ran over a stone that was 7 to 8 inches high. huge! (no time to get out of the way) although my car is near stock height the stone did scrape the bottom of my oil pan. about twenty minutes later my oil light comes on and shows i have no oil pressure. i check the dip stick but the oil level was fine. i checked underneath the car, and there is no puncture but there is a slight dent. to me, there doesn't seem to be a big enough dent to cause the problem that i have. but a couple my nissan buddies told me that even a small dent like that on a nissan could cause rod knock and in the end blowing the motor, because the oil sump is so close to the bottom of the oil pan. i heard this is a common reason for blown engines on the ka and the sr engines alike. if anyone has had this type of problem and/or could help with some general imformation please let me know. thanks
check out http://www.sr20deforum.com .... it does happen quite often. If you were lucky ehough to shut the engine down before any damage was done, all you would have to do is remove the pan and knock the dent out. BUt you never know a bad bearing might show face later on. Also, alot of people who do engine swaps, this is part of the problem when their engines fail. Alot of shippers don't even think twice about properly packing an engine, the just drop it onto the oil pan and alot of people don't even think twice about removing the dent before installing the engine.
from what i read on this and other forums many people do experience this type of problem which don't always end up in a blown motor. especially, from people who get their motors imported from japan or wherever. i hope people doing the sr20 swaps make sure the oil pan has no dents, because many of these motors are mishandled/ dragged on the floor.
do they have any aftermarket oil pans for the ka? and are there any solutions to this problem of the oil sump being too low?
as for me i can already hear some knock, especially when i first crank her up. in the end i'll end up paying more, so i'm just going to pull the motor and put in a used ka motor.
do they have any aftermarket oil pans for the ka? and are there any solutions to this problem of the oil sump being too low?
as for me i can already hear some knock, especially when i first crank her up. in the end i'll end up paying more, so i'm just going to pull the motor and put in a used ka motor.
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Thats why they are stocked on a bunch of sr20 parts pages.justink wrote:from what i read on this and other forums many people do experience this type of problem which don't always end up in a blown motor. especially, from people who get their motors imported from japan or wherever. i hope people doing the sr20 swaps make sure the oil pan has no dents, because many of these motors are mishandled/ dragged on the floor.
Good stuff, and if someone spends the coin on a junked jdm engine but doesnt hassle with a dented pan, well thats funny.Quote »do they have any aftermarket oil pans for the ka?[/quote]Not that I have ever heard of.... Greddy makes an s13 SR one but it doesnt work on the KA hehe, IIRC it even has fitment problems of using that pan on a redtop SR in an s14 chassis... never mind just rambling.
Quote » and are there any solutions to this problem of the oil sump being too low?[/quote]The oil sump isnt to low, its just right and works without problems, how is that a problem? You have 2 options I gather, be more carefull and dont run over things or bottom out, or get one of those JDM skid plates or make your own. I would make my own and may as the price is crazy on the JDM ones, and they only cover minimally, which sucks as a defuser.
Quote »as for me i can already hear some knock, especially when i first crank her up. in the end i'll end up paying more, so i'm just going to pull the motor and put in a used ka motor. [/quote]
Thats just retarded to run it with a dented pan or bad pickup, sorry to say. I would have lifted the engine dropped the pan and banged it back out the next day. One day of work is sure of alot less hassle then buying a new used engine and dropping that in. Ill be on the lookout for this engine when it gets pulled as one to stay away from. I mean you could of had a good engine (given you shut it down in time, but that didnt happen for whoknows why) and a spare, but thats just my opinion...
Good luck anyway, and pray it doesnt toss a rod in the meantime.
I replaced my oil pan over last weekend, 'cause I was jumping my car and smashed it. the secret to removing the oil pan is to remove the oil pick up, which is like 3/4 inch from the bottom of the pan. a dent right in the middle would deff. mess with oil pick up.I searched for aftermarket pans before I got another stock one from someone. couldn't find any.but yeah, just beat the dent out.
I don't there are any aftermarket pans for the KA but I did find this http://www.turbo240sx.ca/customoilpan.jpg. I think its a little over kill, but he has a turbo.
quote : "The oil sump isnt to low, its just right and works without problems, how is that a problem? You have 2 options I gather, be more carefull and dont run over things or bottom out, or get one of those JDM skid plates or make your own. I would make my own and may as the price is crazy on the JDM ones, and they only cover minimally, which sucks as a defuser."
driving carefully is important. something i never thought of (idiot). hopefully, this won't happen again, but i was trying to find out of a way where if it were to happen again i wouldn't mean the loss of my motor. i asked for advice and thank you for the second one, maybe a skid plate will help.
quote: "Thats just retarded to run it with a dented pan or bad pickup, sorry to say. I would have lifted the engine dropped the pan and banged it back out the next day. One day of work is sure of alot less hassle then buying a new used engine and dropping that in. Ill be on the lookout for this engine when it gets pulled as one to stay away from. I mean you could of had a good engine (given you shut it down in time, but that didnt happen for whoknows why) and a spare, but thats just my opinion..."
irritating. don't jump to your own conclusions bud. i drove it for 15 minutes before the oil light came on without getting on the gas too hard. i gave her a start up to see what she sounds like. at low rpm the motor will not throw a bearing.
i'm pulling the motor for two reasons. it's an auto and there's the oil pan issue. the motor will be swapped for a ka 5 speed.
96_S14_SE take it easy. i asked for advice.
driving carefully is important. something i never thought of (idiot). hopefully, this won't happen again, but i was trying to find out of a way where if it were to happen again i wouldn't mean the loss of my motor. i asked for advice and thank you for the second one, maybe a skid plate will help.
quote: "Thats just retarded to run it with a dented pan or bad pickup, sorry to say. I would have lifted the engine dropped the pan and banged it back out the next day. One day of work is sure of alot less hassle then buying a new used engine and dropping that in. Ill be on the lookout for this engine when it gets pulled as one to stay away from. I mean you could of had a good engine (given you shut it down in time, but that didnt happen for whoknows why) and a spare, but thats just my opinion..."
irritating. don't jump to your own conclusions bud. i drove it for 15 minutes before the oil light came on without getting on the gas too hard. i gave her a start up to see what she sounds like. at low rpm the motor will not throw a bearing.
i'm pulling the motor for two reasons. it's an auto and there's the oil pan issue. the motor will be swapped for a ka 5 speed.
96_S14_SE take it easy. i asked for advice.
if anyone is interested in some pictures here is a link: http://photos.yahoo.com/imjustifieddthere are pictures of my mustang (i use to be a mustang guy, still love the mustangs, but open to all types of cars and motorsports), and some pics of my friends cars (240sx w/ sr20det and a low 13 second eclipse).